Yeah I've had a Pike, Mattoc Pro (still have it) and a 2015 36 Float (still have it). They're all good, but I do like the 36 the best of the bunch. It's far and away the stiffest, and has the best air spring of the group IMO. The Pike could use some better bottom out control, and the mid stroke on the Mattoc is a little soft (though it's awesome lowered to 120mm on my hardtail).
uh, these new axle standards man.
The only 2016 Factory series 36s on the Fox site are 15/20 x 100 forks.
Hey aren't we all?
fuck no, I was kidding. 20x100 would be spot on. most hubs are convertible if I ever did get another 15mm fork anyways. I just think it's funny that it's like the one fork on the market that's still 20mm.
My Mattoc is a year old and silent. I only have a couple months on the 36 so I'm not ready to call it all good yet.
Same thing happened to a friend of mine. Out of the box, the fork already had plenty of bushing slop that turned excessive after a few rides. So he sent it back. And then sent it back again.
i was thinking less funny, more sad.
The creaking is what we call in the business "the sound of enduro". Spirits can be pretty be pretty boisterous at times ya know. But fear not, my new company is going to make enduro spirit dampers (yeti blue in this example):
fox should build a "real" 36'er fork. so much opportunity.
Toe clip? I think it'd bring new meaning to "pedal clip".
The 2016s have the FIT4 damper available as an option. The FIT4 forks are 15mm QR. The RC2 damper is still available with the bolt on 20mm axle (convertible to 15), which I believe is unchanged from 2015.
Apparently it is, actually.
I've been on various versions of a 36 Van 180 for a few years now. I've had the CSU creak nightmare the whole time, and the LBS got tired of me coming in complaining about it, saying things like that's normal for a mountain bike etc... Sorry, but that sh*t is not normal. Fox was always good about warranty work though, and I would just send the fork back in whenever the creak got unbearable. It would generally always develop a creak within a couple months and I'd just deal with it till I couldn't handle it anymore; they'd replace the CSU and things would be good for a while until the cycle repeated itself. I actually had a couple forks that I swapped between so I was never out of luck when the fork was in for service. I probably went through about 3-4 rounds of replaced CSU's. I have a buddy who works at Fox, and I didn't want to bug him about this but finally I broke down. He said they had in fact had some issues with the press-fit process on the CSU's and that it was more difficult to address with Kashima, but that he thought they finally had a handle on the issues. Then he put me in touch with the CS manager directly, and he replaced the CSU on all my 36's (sad to say by this time I had accumulated 3 of them to cycle between!) with the 2015 version. He claimed that they had not had a single return of 2015 CSU's due to creaking, and said "don't prove me wrong!"
The former. I'm really picky about my fork's performance and feel... these have swayed me away from my previously beloved Bos Devilles. No creaking at all, just sweet damping
