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29.76 lbs Trek Session 88

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Cyklist, Apr 4, 2010.

  1. Cyklist

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    13.50kg/29.76lbs with 2.5" UST Swampthings and coil rear shock.



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    Frame: Trek Session 88 size M
    Rear shock: Fox RC4 with Diverse ti-spring
    Fork: RS Boxxer WC
    Headset: CaneCreek
    Spacers: PointOneRacing
    Topcap: Carbon with alu bolt
    Stem: PointOneRacing LTD
    Handlebar: Truvativ Holzfeller WC polished
    Grips: Bontrager XXX Lite with plastic plugs
    Brakes: Avid Elixir CR Mag with ti hardware etc
    Discs: Formula R1 SL 180mm with ti bolts
    Shifter: Customized Shimano XTR with alu bolts
    Derailleur: Customized Shimano XTR
    Housing/Cable: Yumeya/Powercordz
    Chain: KMC X10SL
    Cassette: 7speed DuraAce 11-21 with alu lock-ring
    Chainring: E13 Guidering
    Crankset: Customized Shimano XTR
    Pedals: Superstar Ultra MAG
    Chainguide: Customized LG1+
    Seatclamp: Hope
    Seat/Post: Stripped I-Fly/Carbon micro post with ti hardware
    Hubs: Tune King/Kong MK
    Spokes: DT Swiss Aero Lite with alu nipples
    Rims: NoTubes Flow
    Tires: Maxxis Swampthing UST 2,5"

    Plus more ti and some other small things.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  2. mattmatt86

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    This is getting out of control...
     
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  3. monkeyfcuker

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    Sickness! Nice bike.

    [/waits around for the same old hate]
     
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  4. $BMFB$

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    Have you monster trucked through any rock gardens yet? Is it monster truckable?
     
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    That's too light, my God the deflection is going to be insane........ nice build good spec.
    I'd say its too light but if you can get away with it go for it.
     
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  6. rpet

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    you mean spoke deflection?

    I like the bike, though I heard the frames are prone to damage. Easy to warranty?
     
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  7. rigidhack

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    I know this has been said before, but isn't a DH bike supposed to have a bit of weight to it? They are all about stability, which is why they are generally so low, long and slack. But the overall mass would be part of that equation too. Too little weight and the bike starts to skip all over the place as soon as the going gets rough. If that is what you are after, why not just get an XC bike that you can build up at <20lbs?

    My new DH bike will be somewhere in the upper 30's, and that is about as light as I want to go for a bike taking that kind of abuse.

    Unless you weigh 85lbs, in which case this may be just fine for you.
     
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  8. Christiaan

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    to light for my taste, but looks great!
     
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  9. spocomptonrider

    spocomptonrider sportin' the CROCS

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    I don't see why everyone is so up in arms about "insert fancy term for being to light" the bike is usually around 2/3rd's of the rider weight, aside from durability I don't see how this will affect the way it tracks over the ground. If anything it would make it easier to fly over nasty sections and put it back down where you want.
     
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    Wow! thats insanly light. Im just curios, whats the weight on the seat tube + seat combo? Im guessing your grips don't even weigh 10 grms? Thats just wrong! I couldnt ride grips that arent lock on... anyways. I have to admit, thats a pretty crazy build, and if you can ride your bike that light good for you, as for me, I share the personal feelings of many here by saying, when is light too light? I would however, use this bike on a track like sea otter! Imaging how this thing would fly!
     
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    This is retarded
     
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    Great build!!
    Except from the rear rim, I´d say you´ll be fine. Those Flows, are easy to destroy.
     
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    looks amazing and probably rides that way to an extent, but it still required this to be re-quoted because of the blinding truth.
     
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    I like!

    But it would still be sub-30 lbs with a guard for the chainstay, other than that it's thumbs up. :)
     
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    Awesome!
     
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    Props to the builder.

    But, I bet it's difficult to ride in certain situations...
     
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    Sorry, too much for me...... Not a fan
     
  18. Routier07

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    Awesome that you built it to weigh that much... its definitly a bike that would fit a certain persons style of riding. I just have a hard time thinking that bike would survive an extensive beating...
     
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  19. monkeyfcuker

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    There is nothing all that scetchy on it.

    The Flows hold up as well as 721's and better than 5.1's.

    I fail to see how it would be "difficult to ride in certain situations". By the reckoning of some on here we should all be massive chunky feckers to stop the bike moving around to much when it gets bumpy :confused:
     
  20. al-irl

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    Insanely light build but im questioning the brakes for dh riding I doubt they'd be up to the job. Why not put some the ones on there instead.
     
  21. Gary

    Gary "S" is for "neo-luddite"

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    remember one of those "chunky feckers" has ridden behind you and your weenie bike and seen you get bounced all over the track. or are all those dodgy lines intentional?

    :D
     
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    Gary "S" is for "neo-luddite"

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    What have you done to them?
     
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    Moving Mass = Energy, less Moving mass, more chance of being stopped by friction(object).
    The suspension also probably will get more chance to work with more mass, as opposed to skipping over stuff.
    Why not chop of your willy, if your going to make it inoperable with that seat anyway. Don't know about you, but I'd save over half that bikes weight just there.
     
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    Interesting hate is interesting.
     
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    Im stoked that some one has the balls to break that magical 30 pound barrier:D.
     
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    your bike is the Alley McBeal of DH, make it eat a ham sandwich every once in a while...
     
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    Check the spec-list of the stock 2010 Session 88.
     
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    Thats mental. Im not a fan of the Sessions but thats an amazing job. I hope to hear a review when youve given it a good beating on a proper track.

    What isnt up to the job with the brakes? I have the mag/carbon Elixir CRs and theyve been brilliant, they dont need the 205/185 rotors I run them with either so those smaller ones will be ideal.

    Using the Ti bolts on the rotors is a bit sketchy tho.
     
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    I wouldn't ride it---too heavy, probably a total pig.
     
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    Sam Hill doesn't have enough mass to beat Peaty. I hear he has lead in his downtube to make up the gap.
     
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    That ^ is funny. I am not calling BS here but, hard to believe this bike is that light.
    I have a 2010 with a light DH build at 37lbs. There are lighter parts out there
    but, mine a true DH build with Ti bolts etc. 8lbs. more? Crazy! I would say 29
    is way too light, it's like having a 17.5lb. xc bike - you end up on the side of the trail
    watching everyone after you cruz on by with their "heavy" bikes.
    Always cool to see someone push the limits and find where those lines are for sure. Without it we can't move forward, so thanks for your post!
    So not hating just saying, you have to be cutting some strength corners somewhere to drop a bike that low. I am guessing a 34lb. build is about as light as you'd want to go and still have the setup reliable, sturdy and keep it on the ground! And that's light! but 29 has to be a bit sketch.
     
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  34. manhattanprjkt83

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    man this is sorta nuts...i mean it's a great bike but wtf...publishing weights in thread titles? I mean that is the ultimate 'hey look at me'

    most of the parts are damn solid i bet it rides nice and I am all for light bikes if it makes sense...not sure what i am trying to say...good for the builder, but not for me.
     
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    Great bike for a 120lb pro girl.
     
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    Now, are you going to wear lycra while riding; because you would just be wasting all your effort by wearing some heavy regular dh shorts.
     
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    banana hammock...


    Freakin' 10 lbs lighter than my Session 88 :confused:
     
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    I wonder...are weight geeks the bike worlds version of warcraft tards?

    Discuss amongst yourselves.
     
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    I'm in this camp ^^^^

    Assuming this bike doesn't even break I think it would be handful on most tracks. I had a Can Diggle that I built up around 35lbs and it was too light for me. I even set up the suspension really soft and I still had a hard time when things got really fast and rough. Granted, a lot of this could also have to do with skill, or my lack of, but I immediately got more comfortable and confident when I went back to a proper DH build. DH bikes just feel more stable and solid in the upper 30s lower 40s range to me.

    This thing would make a great really long travel slalom bike. I have to admit, it is a nice looking ride but I am curious to see how well it holds up.