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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by Tantrum Cycles, Jun 21, 2017.
If you thought 31 inch bars were bitchin, wait until you try the 31 inch q-factor.
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on 31" in rims. Pow, heard it here first, or 27th
Time to make fun of me. After the success of Kickstarter, a show called Adventure Capitalists called and asked if I would be on the show. I said sure, what's the worst that could happen....
That's awesome exposure. Good luck. When does that episode aire?
tonite at 10 pm ET, 7 pm PT, CNBC.
WARNING, No hucking.....pretty tame climbs and descents at slickrock. And I do dumb things and say dumb stuff
ya, we know.
Life is way more fun that way
it's long past that time.
even brain picked this up
Requisite cynicism aside, I think this is all very cool!
thanks. And the show is cool. It's MTB on TV. I'll always vote for more bikes on TV.
showing again tonite at 10 ET CNBC
little clip from the show
as a crusty old mountain biker, did you ever imagine yourself sitting on a mountain in the middle of the desert negotiating with a bunch of rich turds?
The way this tantrum story continues to evolve is pretty mind-boggling. Still no full reviews from the mags yet, right?
It's boggling my mind, I guarantee you. And my body.
No full, long term reviews. Simple reason. No bikes.This first batch is gone. I'm going to taiwan next week to work out the next batch. In light of the show, a bigger batch than I originally planned. So, I hope, by next spring, I might actually have a "fleet" of demo/test bikes. Until then, user reviews aren't a bad thing. Sure, biased, but still.
You know, on my way to being a crusty old mountain biker, my path has led me to some unique negotiating sessions. Sitting in a room at Citroen with 8 cigarette smoking execs trying to chop down the price on the shocks we were providing to the Rallye/Raid team. and before the session, having the driver tell me "don't back down, they'll give you what you want." they did.
Sitting in a room with ford after we demonstrated shocks on an explorer that made it handle like a sports car instead of flipping at the slightest turn. They asked me how much it would cost to change their shocks. I scrambled, trying to come up with the lowest possible number I could imagine, knowing it would be too cheap. So I said "a dollar a shock". They said something like "that would cost us $40m", stood up and left. oops.
One of my favorites was with Chip Ganassi. He hired me to design shocks. The first race was the '93 Indy 500. With my shocks on, the car was way faster than other shocks on our car, or the competition. Arie put it on the pole. Chip hands me a big, 12 page long contract and pressures me to sign it at the track, his lawyer breathing down my neck. I baulk, saying I need to look at it. We finish second in the race, the chief engineer blames my shocks, Chip tears up the contract. I'm out the door.
But, to answer your question, hell no. I didn't even know the show existed until they called me. And really had no idea what to expect. And it's such a weird, reality TV negotiation, like "you have 5 seconds to decide". What? am I clipping the red or the blue wire??
BTW, I am not saying my above experience makes me a good negotiator. I'm not. I suck. But I do it with some grace under pressure.
but, why would anyone want a rear suspension for a road or track bike?
have you seen the shit roadies buy these days?
I honestly don't understand that question.
any time you wanna share more crazy stories like this, go for it.
and I don't understand your confusion
too many. Working for Robbie Gordon could fill a book on its own
have you ever ridden a road bike? They are HARSH
you could probably make a lot of money writing said book.
He hired and fired me as Chief Engineer 4 or 5 times during the '99 Indy Car season. To his eternal credit, he kept paying me during my "layoffs", even though I was moonlighting for an Indy Lights team at the same races. Totally weird. I love Robby. Balls Fucking Out
I see we have come to an understanding
Ridden literally hundreds. someone sounds WEAK
yes I am. That doesn't make road bikes un-harsh
Idiots guide to combatting road harshness on bicycles.
1. Up tyre volume by 2mm at a time while simultaneously dropping pressure by 5-10psi until cyclist quits whining.
2. Advanced option: Inform said whiney idiot of how to choose appropriate road surfaces when planning road routes.
I know this won't help, but please stop being an arrogant asshat. That is all.
Life's too short to ride road.
Short travel suspension for road is coming no doubt... dunno about missing link being the approach to that, but sure... spend someone else’s money to find out. By track bikes are we talking velodrome fixies?
It's a pretty good way of increasing your chances of ensuring your life gets cut short too. Sharing space with cars is dangerous.
But it's wonderful fun, especially in cities.
For myself, personally, yes it is. I generally ride for fun and my dirt bike gathers dust while I ride my mtb. My 10yr old carbon road bike is pretty brand new. sheltered inside from toxic uv.
the track bike may not be the target......
I'm a crazy old MXer. I raced the Kamakazi before disc brakes, real suspension or real tires and wheels existed. I grew up with big V-8's, drum brakes, no seatbelts and bias ply retreads.
The craziest thing I've ever done on the street? a couple years ago, I rode my mtb from Taipei exhibition hall to my hotel. For an hour. In Friday nite rush hour traffic. Doing battle with 1000 cars, 4000 buses and 10,000 scooters.
I didn't die