[Nick]

invite portly friends over for a deck dance party.

My friend back in the old neighborhood had a porch collapse during a house party. 2 1/2 stories of seeming well constructed porch came down in about 20 seconds. Lots of serious injuries and lawsuits. His brother Bob got the worst of it, but recovered and got a fat check.

side story: that friend was half-Mexican so whenever we were out together I was Nick and he was ethNick. I miss all those dudes.

edit: obligatory 'cool story bro'.

 

[stoney]

My roommate just had his deck redone. It's not big but it was 5k for the deck. Is that a lot? Probably 150 sq ft.

My deck, re-done, would probably be about $30-40k.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

I feel like there's a pretty good use for the fireplace.......

Two words for ya ... Insurance. Fire.







I'm helping.

 

[KenW449]

I feel like there's a pretty good use for the fireplace.......

Two words for ya ... Insurance. Fire.







I'm helping.

Hmm, flammable aerosol cans and lighters work well.

 

[jonKranked]

My deck, re-done, would probably be about $30-40k.

sell the ///M

 

[jstuhlman]

maybe you could buy a boat next?

 

[jimmydean]

sell the ///M

Park the ///M under the deck before the party?

Win/win

 

[jonKranked]

Park the ///M under the deck before the party?

Win/win

build the ///M in to the ///Deck

 

[dan-o]

My deck, re-done, would probably be about $30-40k.

Plus materials...... (around here).

@Nick’s house party story (too frequent in Chicago) means you should check/supplement lateral bracing for vertical supports. Those corners are opening up/nails pulling because they’re braced incorrectly (Simpson ties go on inside) and due to lateral movement or soil shifting.

 

[4xBoy]

You have a six year old, man time flies.

 

[Nick]

maybe you could buy a boat next?

 

[maxyedor]

I hate to say it, but based on the pics, it looks like you've got a nightmare on your hands. If it were just the joists, no biggie, but I question the header, and it's that's no beuno, it's total deck rebuild time. The good news is that the Trex is really expensive, PT lumber is relatively cheap and decks are super easy to build. If it comes down to it, save the Trex, rebuild identically and reinstall the trex.

As for screws, typically no, screws aren't going to fly. However, around here Simpson SDS screws and Timberlok are acceptable, and way, way better than nails. I'm not sure what the policy would be on removing the nails and using the same hole for the screws, I have a feeling that's officially a no-go, but unofficially it'll work just fine.

 

[Westy]

Sounds like someone left you a serious upper deck

 

[Pesqueeb]

Sounds like someone left you a serious upper deck

/thread

 

[stoney]

I hate to say it, but based on the pics, it looks like you've got a nightmare on your hands. If it were just the joists, no biggie, but I question the header, and it's that's no beuno, it's total deck rebuild time. The good news is that the Trex is really expensive, PT lumber is relatively cheap and decks are super easy to build. If it comes down to it, save the Trex, rebuild identically and reinstall the trex.

As for screws, typically no, screws aren't going to fly. However, around here Simpson SDS screws and Timberlok are acceptable, and way, way better than nails. I'm not sure what the policy would be on removing the nails and using the same hole for the screws, I have a feeling that's officially a no-go, but unofficially it'll work just fine.

Unfortunately code has changed. Joists have to be 16" vs 12", as well as a few other issues. I believe the supports need to be 6*6 as well now too. It's stupid expensive to do from scratch.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Unfortunately code has changed. Joists have to be 16" vs 12", as well as a few other issues. I believe the supports need to be 6*6 as well now too. It's stupid expensive to do from scratch.

However at the end of the day, it will be the most cost-effective approach.

 

[SkaredShtles]

And don't forget the deck sealant before you're done!

 

[Westy]

maybe you could buy a boat next?

Wooden boat, obviously.

 

[jstuhlman]

Wooden boat, obviously.

built out of his recycled decking materials. duh.

 

[Westy]

maybe you could buy a boat next?

I am sure he has deck shoes.

 

[eric strt6]

this would be Stoney

 

[stoney]

this would be Stoney

That's a no to both. Good day!

 

[stoney]

Had a weird occurrence with the M today. I gave the M a super bath today and went up to the Highlands Ranch Mansion to take some pictures of it. I've been back and forth on that fence of selling it and the Subaru to buy a polestar again.

While I was taking pictures, an older guy in a new GLS had been driving around the lot waiting for some people When they were heading out, he stopped and asked if I was prepping to sell it. I told him I was thinking about it, but the price would have to be right. He asked me a bunch of questions: condition, year, mileage, repairs, service records, etc. And then a price and my phone number.

Madness! Madness I say!

If I could clear $22k plus $13k for the Subaru, that's $6-7k from cash and BOOM Polestar with ~30k on it. Or a V60 R-Design Polestar tune with no out of pocket and lower mileage... With space for a nice set of summer wheels because I'll winter the OEM...

 

[Nick]

and like that .. *poof* ... fuck that deck!

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Wait until the rot gets into the sills, you can do everything at once... Live in whatever old man's car you have at that point.

 

[stoney]

and like that .. *poof* ... fuck that deck!

Hahahal Wrong thread.

 

[Westy]

Had a weird occurrence with the M today. I gave the M a super bath today and went up to the Highlands Ranch Mansion to take some pictures of it. I've been back and forth on that fence of selling it and the Subaru to buy a polestar again.

While I was taking pictures, an older guy in a new GLS had been driving around the lot waiting for some people When they were heading out, he stopped and asked if I was prepping to sell it. I told him I was thinking about it, but the price would have to be right. He asked me a bunch of questions: condition, year, mileage, repairs, service records, etc. And then a price and my phone number.

Madness! Madness I say!

If I could clear $22k plus $13k for the Subaru, that's $6-7k from cash and BOOM Polestar with ~30k on it. Or a V60 R-Design Polestar tune with no out of pocket and lower mileage... With space for a nice set of summer wheels because I'll winter the OEM...

 

[maxyedor]

Unfortunately code has changed. Joists have to be 16" vs 12", as well as a few other issues. I believe the supports need to be 6*6 as well now too. It's stupid expensive to do from scratch.

Are you allowed to replace 1 or 2 parts at a time? Just replace 1 piece at a time, in really quick succession.

Failing that, I agree with JBP. Slap some screws in there to tighten it all back up, and wait for the sill to start failing, when it's no longer even a little bit safe, tear it all down and start fresh.

 

[stoney]

Are you allowed to replace 1 or 2 parts at a time? Just replace 1 piece at a time, in really quick succession.

Failing that, I agree with JBP. Slap some screws in there to tighten it all back up, and wait for the sill to start failing, when it's no longer even a little bit safe, tear it all down and start fresh.

You can repair as much as you want. Rebuild requires new code.

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

Umm, yeah, just gonna go ahead and say it. With your limited experience at building stuff, and the size of your deck, hire professionals.

A modest one story deck such as @CrabJoe StretchPants is a great size for one person with some experience. But what you got there is way more than one inexperienced person can handle.



Or, say fuck it and buy another car...

 

[jstuhlman]

Umm, yeah, just gonna go ahead and say it. With your limited experience at building stuff, and the size of your deck, hire professionals.

A modest one story deck such as @CrabJoe StretchPants is a great size for one person with some experience. But what you got there is way more than one inexperienced person can handle.



Or, say fuck it and buy another car...

heyyyyyyy....is that a “barn” door down there? looks like your little girl needs a pony! yes! horses! the perfect accessory for failing ///Ms, infinities, and dual-pergola decks! you’ll save a TON of money over horseback lessons! maybe even enough to buy yourself a theater room!