I was there!
anybody go to the peace march?
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I wasn't. I'm in favor of invasion. 
Nothing to see here! Keep moving.
what's a peace march ?
Here is my view on the whole thing. I think we should have taken care of crap when we were there the first time but we tried to be the good guy, and it didnt get us anywhere. I am not really for invasion but I also am not for the crap that is going on over there either. My biggest peeve is with everyone who is running around protesting this stuff and not thinking about what they are doing. Now I wasnt around for the Vietnam war but I do know what resulted. I dont want to see the members of our armed services to come back to that same crap. Hippies running around(and yes they still exist) protesting the war efforts and protesting the soldiers wont get us anywhere, how about we all support our military personel, they dont want to be there anymore then we want them to be.
I have several friends and people around me who have or are going to be shipped off to the middle east, none of them want to go, they are all scared, none of their family wants them to go either. But they have to, they took it upon themselves to defend "US," defend our freedoms, so lets treat them with respect, support the armed forces.
I have several friends and people around me who have or are going to be shipped off to the middle east, none of them want to go, they are all scared, none of their family wants them to go either. But they have to, they took it upon themselves to defend "US," defend our freedoms, so lets treat them with respect, support the armed forces.
i agree with you pluto, i was hanging out with my friends. after the massive amount of money spent to send troops there, i dont think were gonna back down. i do think that the number that showed up shows something about the worlds view on what we are doing. i support our troops, whatever they are doing, but why dont we just send in an assasin or somethin like that? i dont like the thought of another war. wars nowadays are push button wars, not guerilla warfare, which is also freaky because of nuclear weapons. if we could just arrest saddam and exile him or something.... he is a threat, and he has commited many crimes. i dont think he'll give up without a fight.....
So you are saying if someone doesn't belive in the war effort that they shouldn't protest. Sorry but that doesn't jive. I feel bad for the soldiers because they don't get the support but in reality the protests are against your president...not your forces. Your forces just get the brunt of the attack because it is obvious that Bush is a little thick headed and the troops do take what people are saying to heart.
I agree with the assasin thing except one problem. Martyrs are more powerful than living people. Especially in that society. I believe the US is walking into a war that will never stop. So Sad...even when the troops leave a decimated Iraq the US will continue to get attacked for a very long time with no one tangable to attack. A very sad situation with no resolve imo.
You may already have, but ya'll should check out the political debate forum and sift through some of the threads... some of it's good debate on the Iraq issue.
I drove by the Bellingham rally downtown by the federal building... There were probably 500-1000 people there... really impressive. Didn't feel like standing out there, but I had my no Iraq war sign in my car window and gave'em a good honk.
I agree with the "support our troops" mentality-- but I haven't met any protesters who "don't" support the troops, or even mention the troops in good or bad light. Nobody wants them to return home like I imagine how it happened after Vietnam.
The troops aren't really in the equation as far as I'm concerned, it's the people directing them-- the leaders we're protesting against. I'm all for supporting troops, but not supporting stupid wars, IMO.
I drove by the Bellingham rally downtown by the federal building... There were probably 500-1000 people there... really impressive. Didn't feel like standing out there, but I had my no Iraq war sign in my car window and gave'em a good honk.
I agree with the "support our troops" mentality-- but I haven't met any protesters who "don't" support the troops, or even mention the troops in good or bad light. Nobody wants them to return home like I imagine how it happened after Vietnam.
The troops aren't really in the equation as far as I'm concerned, it's the people directing them-- the leaders we're protesting against. I'm all for supporting troops, but not supporting stupid wars, IMO.
I was planing to go but my family is selling a camper and i had to stay home because a guy from outta town phoned in the morning. and came out in theearly afternoon and I had to stay at home cause I was the only one home who knew about the camper...
I need clarification.
when you protest for peace its for ALL countries not to go to war not just the one you live in.
hmmm yah your right..... I retarct my previous statement.
Protest for Peace.... LOL!
peace protest = large mass of people in one area.
sounds like a good opportunity for a terrorist attack; i wonder if that would change peoples minds? ironic but if i were a bad guy that wanted war with the US, a peace protest would be the perfect opportunity to sway public opinion. even hippies would be for war if their lungs had blisters.
just my $.02.
sounds like a good opportunity for a terrorist attack; i wonder if that would change peoples minds? ironic but if i were a bad guy that wanted war with the US, a peace protest would be the perfect opportunity to sway public opinion. even hippies would be for war if their lungs had blisters.
just my $.02.
Protest for Peace = Pro Saddam
Either you support are troops or you support Sadddam!
Dont be a spineless.
Just my 2 cents.
Either you support are troops or you support Sadddam!
Dont be a spineless.
Just my 2 cents.
I like the way you think.
please explain your black and white view of things
Holy crap, that's awesome! This is such a gross manipulation of other people's views, only to support your own--- Like a pro-life person calling the pro-choice people "pro-babykill". Which, in some people's view, may be appropriate--- but still, nobody's "pro-babykill" and nobody's pro-Saddam, and calling people those names, when you know they're not, is lame.
If you're being literal with the "support the troops" thing though, I've seen plenty of peace signs that say "support our troops, send 'em home!" And, there aren't many protesters who don't support the troops..... we're protesting the people directing them (mainly the president). But, I'm guessing you're thinking along the lines of "support the troops" = "support the war effort" and "support the president"??
Nothing personal to you, but if you actually think most of the people protesting this war are "spineless", the only appropriate response to that is "don't be brainless."
I went to school with a ton of folks that were against the orginial Gulf War. I never felt they were against me.
The US learned its lesson in Vietnam. Folks got smart and realized the troops weren't the problem. And that bitching at them wasn't going to get you anywhere.
Spineless is not standing up for what you believe in. Spineless is is the unwillingness to stand up for what you believe in.
See: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, etc.
Originally posted by LordOpie
How come no one had signs that said something like:
SADDAM PLEASE DISARM AND STOP THIS WAR.
SADDAM PLEASE COOPERATE FULLY AND STOP THIS WAR.
SADDAM BRING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
Oh didnt you hear?
Everything is the fault of those evil republicans and that just plain awful George W. Bush, whose only interest is obviously oil. Even though spending billions of dollars on a foreign invasion would be exponentially more expensive than simply purchasing the oil in a peaceful manner. It must be evil at work.
Dammit man,
That was sarcasm. Why cant the hippies just see that its not about oil? I guess a million or 2 people can be wrong.
Originally posted by LordOpie
How come no one had signs that said something like:
SADDAM PLEASE DISARM AND STOP THIS WAR.
SADDAM PLEASE COOPERATE FULLY AND STOP THIS WAR.
SADDAM BRING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.
Good point. But it still rests on Bush's logic of "We're not starting this war, Saddam is." No--- Whether it's necessary or not, the USA is bringing this war. And I don't think Saddam cooperating fully would stop our push for war--- when one our main goals is "regime change".
Of course it's about oil but the mistake some people make is to say it's just about oil. Now whether oil is the major determiner or not....well I'm not sure. But I do agree that Saddam has gotta go. Now is a war your best way to achieve that? It's certainly the most obvious.....Interestingly, I read an article the other day that Saddam has placed his defence minister under house arrest for fear he is plotting a coup. If the US/UN keep ratcheting up the pressure, I wonder if the Iraqi armed forces will crack....I'm sure as hell they remember the road to Basra.
That's lame-- yes, there are idiots in every group.
...say, but it sure is frustrating watching the decrepit hippies and young beatnik wannabes snarl traffic and trash downtown with their lemming march when they should be at work and off the unemployment rolls. Why can't they just go back to selling Rasta Pasta and NO2 balloons at Phish shows? Amazing that I once identified with that crowd, but once I started educating myself, developing a career and raising a family, the pie-in-the-sky vision of one big ol' happy rainbow family was lifted from my eyes like rose-tinted shades. It's a sad thing how adulthood diminishes the ideals of youth, but if I want to visit fantasy land now, I just pick up a book or rent a DVD. Foreign policy is best left to a steelier sort who understand that evil does exist, a hug doesn't solve everything and that sometimes the only way to deal with those who are bent on our destruction is from the breach end of an M16.
Protesters are simply bored, unemployed folks with nothing better to do. They ought to grab a garbage bag and go clean a park instead.