Complete Guide to Downhill Rubber

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by zdubyadubya, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. landcruiser

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    Well yes, I was only saying it was a passable tire option considering the dry conditions at the beginning of that week. I would have never expected anyone to run that tire in the wet if they hoped to stay on track.
     

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  2. atrokz

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    Yea it's a weird departure for Maxxis. We all know and love the no-transition-knob designs, this seems like a weird step for them.
     
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    Not in succession behind the griffon and tomahawk it doesn't.

    Maxxis is now in the 'we don't really know what we're doing' club.
     
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    atrokz Turbo Monkey

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    I never even paid attention to those. Damn, they have gotten weird. Right about the same time as the + size nonsense......
     
  5. 'size

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    i blame landcruiser.
     
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    If 5.10s rubber is so sticky, why don't they make tires out of it?
     
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  7. kidwoo

    kidwoo Celebrating No-Pants Day

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    Because no one wants 500 dollar tires.


    Let me rephrase that. No one who rides enough that they have to replace tires regularly wants 500 dollar tires. The dentistry skills on mtbr would be all about it.. Given the difficulty of keeping that stuff glued to the bottom of my shoe, it might be tough to bond a tire with it.

    Might actually be too sticky to be honest. Glancing rocks could rip your bars out of your hand.
     
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    Bingo.


    Besides, the Bike Industry Lizards know they'd need to start with $200 tires first and work their way up from there.
     
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  9. jstuhlman

    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    they could enter a partnership with ShoeGoo/Stans and sell them pre-filled. Because as much as I love my 5.10s, they're all half shoe goo after about 3 months in...
     
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    I think Intense did that back in 2001 when they first began working with 5.10 making shoes and if my bong shed memory of that Dirt Mag issue serves me correct I believe they said the tires would roll really slow and pick up everything off the ground and eject it so bad they were denting tubes and ripping knobs off after a few runs.
     
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    i would love to see video of that
     
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    it was most likely kovarik as well, so even better.
     
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    Westy the teste

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    Heck, you could make your own 5.10 tires by just applying shoe goo directly to the rim.

    Edit: A quick google search to see if someone has ever tried to make a tire out of silicone had me popping out of this rabbit hole.

    I think I know what I am doing this weekend.

    http://www.resinpu.com/h/Products/Addition_silicone/Life_casting_silicone/2016/0420/443.html
     
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    What schwalbe tires do people run on the rear of there DH/Enduro bikes? Where i was living before trails were dry and dusty so I had a magic mary on the front and a rock razor on the rear. Rock razor won't cut it in the more loamy conditions. I think a magic mary on the rear maybe overkill. Whats schwalbe minion equivalent? A nobby nic?
     
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    I'm sorry to break it to you, but there is none. Look at Maxxis or Michelin. They seem to be the most popular on this thread. Some people like the eThirteen tires too, if they're not fussed about rolling speed.
     
  16. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    This. I'd say the Hans Dampf is the closest, but...not really equivalent.
     
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    Those new Kendas look interesting. No idea what they cost, but if they're cheaper than the magic marys i've come to like, might be worth a try.
     
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    Electric_City The orangutans are loose!

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    Maybe they did.

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    I could climb Niagara Falls with those tires!
     
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    He did say it rode better on the narrow rim due to the rounder profile...
     
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    Well of course it works. It's a minion DHF/DHR2 offspring. Only thing left to mess up is the rubber compound, casing and profile.

    Would bang. If offered in the right wheel size, durometer and casing.
     
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    never thought designing a tire profile is that easy:

     
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    Sounds about right.

     
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    and already you've surpassed anything the paid "engineers" at wtb have ever done
     
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    I think there's an even easier solution at play here.







    DHR2 Copy->Paste.
     
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    Haven't tried wtb tires. Are they really that bad?
     
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    It's actually a HR2 copy/paste.
     
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    They've got a tough guy trail bike casing that's pretty good but yeah, they're tread designs are kinda poopy. I've got some friends that like the vigilante but it seemed pretty damn squirmy to me.
     
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    I concur. Tried a Vigilante TCS a few months ago. Loved the casing, the tread not so much. Much less predictable than other tires I'm used to ride.
     
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    They're really popular round here with the XC lid and goggles crowd. (I think as a hans dampf alternative but at half the price) the trails are steep, technical rooty and generally wet but with good support. I've only ridden mates bikes with them and fuond them grippy in a straight line and braking but less predictable in turns. Seeing as I run dry tryes (DHF/RII front, Bling/BBG rear) and fairly high pressures all year round my opinion of them is a little skewed.
     
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    Gary "S" is for "neo-luddite"

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    Help me out here.
    Does Maxxis make any of their 27.5 tyres in a DH casing with a similar durometer to Maxxpro 60a? Preferably a DHF or HRII
    Looking for something hardwearing and fast rolling to stick on the rear.
     
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    'single' compound
     
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    Bontrager G5?
     
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    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    Gary? Or the tire?

    :p
     
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    I'm hard just seeing that cute little tongue stick out
     
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    HAB Chelsea from Seattle

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    Soooo... A DHF with half of the center knobs fucked up and less cup on the side knobs? Pass.
     
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  40. kidwoo

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    Yeah but at least minnaar either flatted or broke a wheel in every single WC run he took with them. Why so negative?
     
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