I dunno the length, but my BB is a TruVativ ISIS Drive Hussefelt sitting in an 04 Kona Stinky frame.OGRipper said:Will need to know what frame and the recommended bb axle length...
Can I run my XT with a Saint?smedford said:I run diabolous on one bike and saint on the other. No complaints with either. Flip a coin.
Nope sure can't it isn't saint... sorry, wont work. ( oh wait.. they haven't made everything proprietary yet)stinkyboy said:Can I run my XT with a Saint?
I would love to see someone break saint cranks. Those things are so fvckin' strong.DHS said:it breaks you need new arm and such.
Because....they don't want to liedirtjumpP.1 said:why didnt they give numbers to show that their cranks failed past the point of failure on the saints?
or if you mess up a install you can get a new axle put in on the raceface. you have to buy a whole new crank for the saint.sleepinggiant said:I would love to see someone break saint cranks. Those things are so fvckin' strong.
How in the hell could you mess up installation on a pair of Saint cranks? They are idiot proof. Slide the right side arm/spindle through the BB, slide on the left arm (it will only go on one way-can't misalign), load the bearings with the end cap, and tighten the pinch bolts.DHS said:or if you mess up a install you can get a new axle put in on the raceface. you have to buy a whole new crank for the saint.
umm yeah, wow nice comparison, im sure diabolus break too.Castle said:http://www.raceface.com/components/cranks/diabolus-crank.htm# click on backstage and then test lab
http://www.bmxonline.com/bmx/biz/article/0,15737,1068954,00.htmlSupercross was working on a new set of cranks that are supposed to be half a pound lighter than traditional Profiles and twice as stiff as Shimano's Saint cranks.
Plain dull and grey they may be but unoriginal they are not. The Shimano Hollowtech II system was in place before RaceFace/Truvativ/FSA released/copied the ouboard-bearing design.me89 said:ohh and go diablous all the way. raceface is just better looking and you get the kool flames. saints are plane dull and gray. noone likes to be boring and unoriginal. and diablous are stronger.
Sonny, Shimano doesn't have any original thoughts period - the crank system was around 10 years before Shimano had them on the market...Fonzie18 said:Plain dull and grey they may be but unoriginal they are not. The Shimano Hollowtech II system was in place before RaceFace/Truvativ/FSA released/copied the ouboard-bearing design.
Ok...syadasti said:Sonny, Shimano doesn't have any original thoughts period - the crank system was around 10 years before Shimano had them on the market...
Sweetparts had their steel 2-piece version (sweetwings) in the mid nineties with external outboard bearings - they weighed 5 grams more than "innovative" "new" xtr (haha, shimano innovate - yeah right!). They were some of the stiffest cranks you could buy then - I had a pair on my 95 Marin Indian Firetrail. I traded them to a LBS owner in 97 or 98 for free brand new interloc tubular steel cranks when I got a frame they wouldn't fit. They also had a ti version, but I don't remember the weight. They were very labor intensive, had some teething issues, and Sweetparts went out of business
Bullseye did not have external bearings, were heavier, and I am sure there were other BMX 2-piece cranks before bullseye...Dan-Rides-Bikes said:
didnt saint stuff come out in 2003? so how could the cranks be 3 years old?Fonzie18 said:Plain dull and grey they may be but unoriginal they are not. The Shimano Hollowtech II system was in place before RaceFace/Truvativ/FSA released/copied the ouboard-bearing design.
I have a set of SAINT cranks on all my bikes. The oldest one being almost 3 years old, it still performs as well as the day I installed them.
That has got to be one of the coolest jobs, I mean you get to break stuff all day. I don't really care either that they don't give any numbers or show their stuff breaking cause I'm sure its just as strong.Castle said:http://www.raceface.com/components/cranks/diabolus-crank.htm# click on backstage and then test lab
funny that you should mention that, since I have owned a few sets, one of them black, and the anodizing on that one faded so the inset part of the left arm was pink. Not sure why, maybe the sun did it. But it's pink now.jackalope said:If you're a 'bad' person, I'd go with the Diabolus and paint them pink (it's the new black)...
you really cant base an opinion on saint cranks on your experiance with xts. have you even riddin a set?Turd Ferguson said:Hey, sorry to hurt your feelings. I was trying to be as specific as possible. Have you ever had warranty issues with the big 'S'?
If not--
Shut the f__k up!
Whinge whinge whinge, cry cry cry. All based on your experiences with an older model XC crank. Keep up the good workTurd Ferguson said:The Saints suck. Shimano sucks. All cranks Shimano makes SUCK.