[jonKranked]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/index.htm

for $4 billion. I think this is an epic fail. I'm worried that Disney will ruin Marvel with their family friendliness. Boo.


On another note, I'm curious to see what this will do to the Toy biz. Right now, Marvel action figures are made by Hasbro. Mattel makes many of the Disney toys that are sold domestically. Should be interesting.

 

[Pesqueeb]

http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/index.htm

for $4 billion. I think this is an epic fail. I'm worried that Disney will ruin Marvel with their family friendliness. Boo.


On another note, I'm curious to see what this will do to the Toy biz. Right now, Marvel action figures are made by Hasbro. Mattel makes many of the Disney toys that are sold domestically. Should be interesting.

Wait, how old are you?

 

[syadasti]

Disney has had film companies that produce non-family oriented films for a long time. Why would they change what works, it doesn't make any sense?

 

[jonKranked]

Disney has had film companies that produce non-family oriented films for a long time. Why would they change what works, it doesn't make any sense?

Because its Disney and they are brand whores. Marvel already has an extremely well identified branding, but I fear Disney may whore it out completely.

 

[I Are Baboon]

Cool....they can make a Wolverine vs Winnie the Pooh movie.

 

[MMike]

Or a Pixar generated Marvel movie.........ooooohhhh not so stupid now, is it?

 

[jonKranked]

Or a Pixar generated Marvel movie.........ooooohhhh not so stupid now, is it?

Actually, yes.

 

[syadasti]

Actually, yes.

Steve Jobs FTL

 

[MMike]

John Ratzenberger as Wolverine...

 

[Secret Squirrel]

John Ratzenberger as Wolverine...

That would rule.

 

[mandown]

Wait, how old are you?

my first response to this post as well.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Jesus god - spiderman turns into snow white...

 

[syadasti]

my first response to this post as well.

He's from the toy biz...

 

[jonKranked]

He's from the toy biz...

Yup. Well, I used to work in the toy industry. Not anymore! But I still have friends that work there.

 

[IH8Rice]

i think its a great idea for Disney. why not gobble up the competition?
it happens every day and is good business, even though they are paying 29% over its value

 

[jonKranked]

Steve, I take you're not a fan of anti-trust laws, are you?

 

[IH8Rice]

Steve, I take you're not a fan of anti-trust laws, are you?

i hardly see how this would violate any anti-trust laws. (then again i could be wrong)

plus, the FTC would have jumped in before that would be the case


oh, there arent too many laws that im a fan of

 

[jonKranked]

i hardly see how this would violate any anti-trust laws. (then again i could be wrong)

plus, the FTC would have jumped in before that would be the case

Monopolistic business practices fall under anti-trust laws as well.

Here's a brief list of other things disney owns:

ABC Television (and all ABC branded channels, both broadcast and cable)
ESPN and all ESPN affiliates
Dreamworks (not the animation portion)
Mirimax (Which also includes Dimension Films)
Touchstone
Pixar
Buena Vista Music Group

Starting to see the pattern?

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

Starting to see the pattern?

Yea, Disney kicks ass.

 

[syadasti]

The current media consolidation trends are a serious concern for a variety of reasons but I don't know if Disney would qualify as monopoly.

 

[jonKranked]

The current media consolidation trends are a serious concern for a variety of reasons but I don't know if Disney would qualify as monopoly yet.

fixed.


But yes, I agree with your point. It's not enough to raise a red flag, but give it time.

 

[IH8Rice]

they do own a lot of media outlets, sure, but they arent controlling the market with any one of those companies you mentioned.

 

[jonKranked]

they do own a lot of media outlets, sure, but they arent controlling the market with any one of those companies you mentioned.

Its the fact that they own so many outlets that is of concern, not the power of any single outlet.

Having worked on Disney brands in the past, I was astounded at how controlling they are over their brand image, even by my tinfoil standards.

 

[syadasti]

Its the fact that they own so many outlets that is of concern

Seems like a concern to be addressed to the FCC...

 

[IH8Rice]

Its the fact that they own so many outlets that is of concern, not the power of any single outlet.

Having worked on Disney brands in the past, I was astounded at how controlling they are over their brand image, even by my tinfoil standards.

if they owned a ton of broadcast companies and or a ton of movie companies then i would start to think monopoly. and if it was, the FTC wouldnt allow the stocks to be sold/bought.


it makes plenty of sense that they want to control every single aspect of their company's marketing strategy. they are a company founded on their image and promote themselves with their "wholesome" name. god forbid a toy company makes a doll's boobs too big

 

[jonKranked]

if they owned a ton of broadcast companies and or a ton of movie companies then i would start to think monopoly. and if it was, the FTC wouldnt allow the stocks to be sold/bought.

There aren't exactly a ton of media or broadcast companies left that aren't owned by some sort of larger conglomerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Disney

it makes plenty of sense that they want to control every single aspect of their company's marketing strategy. they are a company founded on their image and promote themselves with their "wholesome" name. god forbid a toy company makes a doll's boobs too big

I'm talking a level of detail and control that is more or less un-heard of. Boob size is nothing.

 

[IH8Rice]

hmm when broken down like that, it does seem they have a ton of companies in their portfolio (even though a lot of the media companies are off-shoots of their parent group)


companies that are grossing billions and billions of dollars are all going to be super stringent on the way their product goes to market. like i said, its all about image to them.

and you are wrong. boob size is very important

 

[jonKranked]

companies that are grossing billions and billions of dollars are all going to be super stringent on the way their product goes to market. like i said, its all about image to them.

Disney is by and far one of THE most stringent. I'm talking to the point that it stifles creativity. I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it first hand. From working at Mattel, whose main assets are Hot Wheels and Barbie - two brands over which branding is EXTREMELY controlled, Disney is worlds more stringent over their branding than any company I have ever seen.

 

[bizutch]

I'm gonna go on record as saying that was a dumb idea. There's a core group of Marvel movies worth investing in and almost all are in production right now. If they'd bought Marvel 5 years ago, it would be a good buy and they'd stand to cash in. But honestly, somebody tell me what Marvel characters are going to make them back $4 Billion at this point? They've all been done.

 

[jonKranked]

I'm gonna go on record as saying that was a dumb idea. There's a core group of Marvel movies worth investing in and almost all are in production right now. If they'd bought Marvel 5 years ago, it would be a good buy and they'd stand to cash in. But honestly, somebody tell me what Marvel characters are going to make them back $4 Billion at this point? They've all been done.

And look at the Comic Book movies that have been released to date (not just marvel). There were a handful that were smash hits, but the rest remained were mediocre at best.

 

[IH8Rice]

If they'd bought Marvel 5 years ago, it would be a good buy and they'd stand to cash in. But honestly, somebody tell me what Marvel characters are going to make them back $4 Billion at this point? They've all been done.

theres always a "what if" when stuff like this occurs.
Marvel does have some big name movies under it's belt, and with a new Iron Man, 25 more Spider Man movies and deals with Paramount, Sony and Fox for future movies, Disney's investment should pay off somewhat soon

Disney also bought the one trick pony (see movies only) Pixar for $7.4bil

 

[jonKranked]

Disney also bought the one trick pony (see movies only) Pixar for $7.4bil

Pixar is the only movie production company out there that has produced only hit movies.

 

[Westy]

Disney has no idea what they are doing. They should contract you guys for advice and stuff.

 

[jonKranked]

Disney has no idea what they are doing. They should contract you guys for advice and stuff.

I already submitted a screenplay about internet trolls. I haven't heard anything back yet.

 

[CrabJoe StretchPants]

Disney has no idea what they are doing. They should contract you guys for advice and stuff.

Walt is thawing he's so mad.

 

[Greyhound]

I don't think Disney will dumb anything down.....they already have a 16-year old pole dancer on payroll.

 

[IH8Rice]

Disney has no idea what they are doing. They should contract you guys for advice and stuff.

apparently Disney doesnt do porn, so my ideas got no reply

I don't think Disney will dumb anything down.....they already have a 16-year old pole dancer on payroll.

those girls behind her are future tramps in training

 

[Greyhound]

those girls behind her are future tramps in training

See? ....Disney knows what they're doing.

 

[IH8Rice]

See? ....Disney knows what they're doing.

direct that to Jon boy. i always knew slutty teens turn into over 18teens eventually.

 

[jonKranked]