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"Gay" more deadly than "Smoking" ?

BurlyShirley

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Jul 4, 2002
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...was listening to the radio (conservative nutjob radio) and heard a statistic something like "1 out of 3 gay males will either be dead or have AIDS by age 30".
Can anyone confirm or disprove anything like that? I checked out stats at www.aids.gov ,and while the numbers certainly suggest something like that (if you could estimate the total number of gays) I havent seen anything concrete.

If this is the case though, why isnt that a more publicized statistic? That is WAY WAY worse than the percentage of smokers that die of cancer. Should it be treated as that much of a health risk and should steps be taken to stop these unneeded deaths?
 

Changleen

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Jan 9, 2004
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http://www.avert.org/usastaty.htm

In total since 1981 (when it started to be an issue) 944,306 Americans contracted AIDS and 529,113 have died from it. That's a 56% death rate, however, as you can see the death rate per infection number has dropped in recent years due to antiretroviral therapies improving. There is also no breakdown by age or gender in those stats.
 

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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getting plugged in the butt is unnatuaral. Common sense should tell you bad things will come of it. Oh darn!:nopity:
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/msm.htm

from the above + its references: 5-7% of men have sex with other men (MSM), so maybe 6 million MSM alive in 2006 in the usa (260 million people, 1/2 male, multiply by % -- this is too high because of children, of course).

also from the cdc: 200k MSM are alive and have aids, and there were about 20k new cases of aids in 2003 among MSM. so at this point in time the incidence of aids among MSM is about 200k/6m, or 3.3%, and 10 years from now might be 5%. 33% is pure talk show BS.

that said, unprotected anal sex ranks up there with IV drug use with shared needles in being a great way to get hiv. and that's why doctors are trained to ask about these behaviors. what's your point?

:rolleyes:
 

Reactor

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Apr 5, 2005
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My father has stage three small cell lung cancer. In his case being gay would have been way safer than smoking.

He's not doing well, just had to have a transfusion because of low red blood count, and the drugs weren't boosting his production enough. His prognosis is bleak, his doctors say with chemo he might live six months (three months ago), without it he'd already be dead.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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The Amish said:
getting plugged in the butt is unnatuaral. Common sense should tell you bad things will come of it. Oh darn!:nopity:
So is strapping your feet into chunks of plastic and onto strips of wood and metal to go downhill really fast, but millions of skiers do it every year anyway.

So is spending 8-10 hours a day in a chair stairing at something 2 feet away, but many more millions of people do it for work and would be considered irresponsible if they didn't.

You can keep coming up with all kinds illogical justifications for why being gay is wrong, but it won't disguise the fact that you're just rationalizing your reasons for being an ignorant bigotted asshole.
 

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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Dude I dont care if its right or wrong. No one will ever be usin my exit as an entrance so it has no bearin on me. All I'm sayin is last i checked Aids was transmitted through bodily fluids. If you let some dude flog your arse odds are he's gonna tear it up a bit in the proccess cause thats not what its meant for. Then what happens? He blows his manhood all over your bloody rectum and you got aids fool. Obviously its not a disease limited to just queers, but there's a reason they're more prone to get it than any other group
 

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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Im sure I've already got my space reserved but for now my purpose is to spread the love. Feel it surround you with its warmth
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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The Amish said:
Dude I dont care if its right or wrong. No one will ever be usin my exit as an entrance so it has no bearin on me.
The mouth is made for eating and speaking. What are the chances you'd complain if a women tried to use hers on your flaccid little johnson?
 

The Amish

Dumber than N8
Feb 22, 2005
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Echo said:
Weren't you just giving Amish crap for his spelling?
Seriously, If your gonna rip on me atleast try to scrape up some creativity out of that mundane existance of your's. I can take it just as well as I dish it out and you know I love it but come on. The whole world already knows I cant spell for sh#t.Theres no secret there. Try again. Next!
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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The Amish said:
Seriously, If your gonna rip on me atleast try to scrape up some creativity out of that mundane existance of your's. I can take it just as well as I dish it out and you know I love it but come on. The whole world already knows I cant spell for sh#t.Theres no secret there. Try again. Next!
I love this guy! He is an unrepentant douchebag. Every board needs a b*tch and we have "The Amish".

BTW, Urban DH'er66 and The Amish are both from upstate NY. Maybe we have a SB situation there.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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sanjuro said:
I love this guy! He is an unrepentant douchebag. Every board needs a b*tch and we have "The Amish".

BTW, Urban DH'er66 and The Amish are both from upstate NY. Maybe we have a SB situation there.

I am a huge The Amish fan!!

:thumb:
 

H8R

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Nov 10, 2004
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N8 said:
I am a huge The Amish fan!!

:thumb:
I'm a huge N8 fan. Seriously.

You are the most entertaining metrosexual trainwreck on the internet.


:thumb:


The Amish is hilllaaarious.
 

maxyedor

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Oct 20, 2005
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Here's my question to the amish. How many of your favorite pornos have a chick getting "plugged in the arse" as you so eloquently put it?

Also if your going to hate on gay dudes shouldn't you hate on lesbians too?

also another fun fact that I heard on a talk show. "Every man that engages in sodomy will die" I geuss they forgot that everyone else will also die thats just a given