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sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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I am going to take a slightly different tack on this one.

Making it a requirement for all Americans to speak English is really encouraging us to learn only one language.

Now I know how hard it is to navigate a country when you don't speak the native language. But we are making our kids stupider if we don't inspire them to learn as much as possible.

What happens if our kids want to travel? Or do overseas business? Or even work in industries which happen to have a lot of immigrant labor?

Saying English is a requirement in US is a given. Teaching our kids more than what they need to know should be too.
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

Reincarnated Crab Walking Head Spinning Bruce Dick
Nov 30, 2003
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I am going to take a slightly different tack on this one.

Making it a requirement for all Americans to speak English is really encouraging us to learn only one language.

Now I know how hard it is to navigate a country when you don't speak the native language. But we are making our kids stupider if we don't inspire them to learn as much as possible.

What happens if our kids want to travel? Or do overseas business? Or even work in industries which happen to have a lot of immigrant labor?

Saying English is a requirement in US is a given. Teaching our kids more than what they need to know should be too.

I don't think anyone is arguing against that......I'm all for teaching other languages to kids who use English as their native language. However, there seems to be more effort in teaching foreign languages to kids in the US than there is in teaching English to non-English speaking kids. At least when I was in elementary/middle/high school, the ESL programs were much smaller and less supported than the Spanish/French/Italian/German programs. Granted the numbers of immigrants were small and thus affect that number, but I'm curious if it's the same in California. I'm sure someone can fill me in.

Basically what I want to know: What is more of a priority in southern CA: teaching Mexican immigrant students English, or teaching English-speaking US students Spanish?
 
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$tinkle

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Feb 12, 2003
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None of the white kids in my neighborhood appear to speak Spanish. Every Mexican kid can speak English.
i'm guessing the converse would be true for guadalajara, jalisco, if there were any white kids.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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SF, CA
At least when I was in elementary/middle/high school, the ESL programs were much smaller and less supported than the Spanish/French/Italian/German programs. Granted the numbers of immigrants were small and thus affect that number, but I'm curious if it's the same in California. I'm sure someone can fill me in.
SF Unified Public School district has the ESL kids fully integrated into regular English classes from day 1 of kindergarten, with certain teachers doing double duty as ESL specialists and working with those kids additionally on the side through 3rd grade. By 3rd grade they are almost universally fluent, with the exception of kids that didn't start at K. Generally, all students are fluent within 4 years of starting in public school.