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Good medium length read. German/US parallels

patconnole

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Jun 4, 2002
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Got this from the peacenik email list. I got bored reading the whole thing, but the conclusion is interesting. I can't vouch for the validity of the facts, but it's a good reminder for "the people".

Here's the intro, then conclusion.... if anybody wants the whole thing, let me know.

Failed: The Warnings of History; By Thom Hartmann

The 70th anniversary wasn't noticed in the United States, and was barely reported in the corporate media. But the Germans remembered well that fateful day seventy years ago - February 27, 1933. They commemorated the anniversary by joining in demonstrations for peace that mobilized citizens all across the world.

It started when the government, in the midst of a worldwide economic crisis, received reports of an imminent terrorist attack. A foreign ideologue had launched feeble attacks on a few famous buildings, but the media largely ignored his relatively small efforts. The intelligence services knew, however, that the odds were he would eventually succeed. (Historians are still arguing whether or not rogue elements in the intelligence service helped the terrorist; the most recent research implies they did not.)

But the warnings of investigators were ignored at the highest levels, in part because the government was distracted; the man who claimed to be the nation's leader had not been elected by a majority vote and the majority of citizens claimed he had no right to the powers he coveted. He was a simpleton, some said, a cartoon character of a man who saw things in black-and-white terms and didn't have the intellect to understand the subtleties of running a nation in a complex and internationalist world. His coarse use of language - reflecting his political roots in a southernmost state - and his simplistic and often-inflammatory nationalistic rhetoric offended the aristocrats, foreign leaders, and the well-educated elite in the government and media. And, as a young man, he'd joined a secret society with an occult-sounding name and bizarre initiation rituals that involved skulls and human bones.

Nonetheless, he knew the terrorist was going to strike (although he didn't know where or when), and he had already considered his response. When an aide brought him word that the nation's most prestigious building was ablaze, he verified it was the terrorist who had struck and then rushed to the scene and called a press conference.

"You are now witnessing the beginning of a great epoch in history," he proclaimed, standing in front of the burned-out building, surrounded by national media. "This fire," he said, his voice trembling with emotion, "is the beginning." He used the occasion - "a sign from God," he called it - to declare an all-out war on terrorism and its ideological sponsors, a people, he said, who traced their origins to the Middle East and found motivation for their evil deeds in their religion. Two weeks later, the first detention center for terrorists was built in Oranianberg to hold the first suspected allies of the infamous terrorist. In a national outburst of patriotism, the leader's flag was everywhere, even printed large in newspapers suitable for window display. Within four weeks of the terrorist attack, the nation's now-popular leader had pushed through legislation - in the name of combating terrorism and fighting the philosophy he said spawned it - that suspended constitutional guarantees of free speech, privacy, and habeas corpus. Police could now intercept mail and wiretap phones; suspected terrorists could be imprisoned without specific charges and without access to their lawyers; police could sneak into people's homes without warrants if the cases involved terrorism.


CONCLUSION:

Nonetheless, once the "small war" annexation of Austria was successfully and quickly completed, and peace returned, voices of opposition were again raised in the Homeland. The almost-daily release of news bulletins about the dangers of terrorist communist cells wasn't enough to rouse the populace and totally suppress dissent. A full-out war was necessary to divert public attention from the growing rumbles within the country about disappearing dissidents; violence against liberals, Jews, and union leaders; and the epidemic of crony capitalism that was producing empires of wealth in the corporate sector but threatening the middle class's way of life.

A year later, to the week, Hitler invaded Czechoslovakia; the nation was now fully at war, and all internal dissent was suppressed in the name of national security. It was the end of Germany's first experiment with democracy.

As we conclude this review of history, there are a few milestones worth remembering.

February 27, 2003, was the 70th anniversary of Dutch terrorist Marinus van der Lubbe's successful firebombing of the German Parliament (Reichstag) building, the terrorist act that catapulted Hitler to legitimacy and reshaped the German constitution. By the time of his successful and brief action to seize Austria, in which almost no German blood was shed, Hitler was the most beloved and popular leader in the history of his nation. Hailed around the world, he was later Time magazine's "Man Of The Year."

Most Americans remember his office for the security of the homeland, known as the Reichssicherheitshauptamt and its SchutzStaffel, simply by its most famous agency's initials: the SS.

We also remember that the Germans developed a new form of highly violent warfare they named "lightning war" or blitzkrieg, which, while generating devastating civilian losses, also produced a highly desirable "shock and awe" among the nation's leadership according to the authors of the 1996 book "Shock And Awe" published by the National Defense University Press. Reflecting on that time, The American Heritage Dictionary (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1983) left us this definition of the form of government the German democracy had become through Hitler's close alliance with the largest German corporations and his policy of using war as a tool to keep power:

"fas-cism(fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Today, as we face financial and political crises, it's useful to remember that the ravages of the Great Depression hit Germany and the United States alike. Through the 1930s, however, Hitler and Roosevelt chose very different courses to bring their nations back to power and prosperity.

Germany's response was to use government to empower corporations and reward the society's richest individuals, privatize much of the commons, stifle dissent, strip people of constitutional rights, and create an illusion of prosperity through continual and ever-expanding war. America passed minimum wage laws to raise the middle class, enforced anti-trust laws to diminish the power of corporations, increased taxes on corporations and the wealthiest individuals, created Social Security, and became the employer of last resort through programs to build national infrastructure, promote the arts, and replant forests.

To the extent that our Constitution is still intact, the choice is again ours.
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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Selective history slanted to a political agenda... or so thinks I. ;)

The German 'problem' did not magicially start in 1933, pre-existing conditions converged at a particular point in time leading to the Hitler years.
 

Tweek

I Love Cheap Beer!
I have noticed the parallels in the first week of the war myself. But the details you bring out are even more interesting. The speed of the coalition's drive toward Baghdad reminded me of the Nazi blitz through the Ardenne Forest, however, I was surprised that although the US was taking that page out of history (hey, it was successful), why they did not use the same method of a supply column that the Nazi's used. :think: Maybe those pages were stuck together or something. :D
 

Serial Midget

Al Bundy
Jun 25, 2002
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By Brian Carnell

Thursday, March 20, 2003

This weekend CommonDreams.Org ran a bizarre article by Thom Hartmann attempting to draw an analogy whereby George W. Bush is Adolf Hitler and Iraq is Poland. Unfortunately, Hartmann's essay seems to be rather ignorant of the very history he supposedly chronicles.

Hartmann writes, for example,


But after an interval of peace following the terrorist attack, voices of dissent again arose within and without the government. Students had started an active program opposing him (later known as the White Rose Society), and leaders of nearby nations were speaking out against his bellicose rhetoric. He needed a diversion, something to direct people away from the corporate cronyism being exposed in his own government, questions of his possibly illegitimate rise to power, and the oft-voiced concerns of civil libertarians about the people being held in detention without due process or access to attorneys or family.
Hartmann conveniently leaves out what happened to the heroes of the White Rose. For the crime of distributing anti-Nazi leaflets they were arrested and beheaded. Meanwhile, in the United States even the more Stalinist of the anti-war protesters are allowed to peacefully assemble and protest at cities throughout the United States.

There is a place, however, where open dissent will likely get one thrown in jail and tortured or worse (if Amnesty International is to be believed). That place is Iraq.

Hartmann continues,


We also remember that the Germans developed a new form of highly violent warfare they named "lightning war" or blitzkrieg, which, while generating devastating civilian losses, also produced a highly desirable "shock and awe" among the nation's leadership according to the authors of the 1996 book "Shock And Awe" published by the National Defense University Press.
Not quite. What made the blitzkrieg innovative was it use of coordinated combined arms attacks. Using infantry, air power, and mechanized tanks combined with radio communications, the German army developed an extraordinarily swift ability to concentrate fire power at military targets. Of course, along the way the Nazis also directed their military illegally against civilians.

But the basic techniques of blitzkrieg were openly adopted by the Allied forces very quickly. Beginning in 1944, for example, Patton effectively turned blitzkrieg tactics back on to the Germans to great success. Is Patton Hitler as well?


February 27, 2003, was the 70th anniversary of Dutch terrorist Marinus van der Lubbe's successful firebombing of the German Parliament (Reichstag) building, the terrorist act that catapulted Hitler to legitimacy and reshaped the German constitution. By the time of his successful and brief action to seize Austria, in which almost no German blood was shed, Hitler was the most beloved and popular leader in the history of his nation. Hailed around the world, he was later Time magazine's "Man Of The Year."
By the time he got around to seizing Austria, Hitler was well on his way to being despised. Of course, in the United States the Communists and their allies did actively oppose any intervention in Europe to stop fascism while Stalin and Hitler divided Poland between them. Only after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union did the Communists decide that maybe stopping fascism might be a priority again.

And, of course, Time's naming Hitler "Man of the Year" in 1938 was hardly an honor for the dictator. Here's what Time wrote of the tyrant,


Fuhrer of the German people, Commander-in-Chief of the German Army, Navy & Air Force, Chancellor of the Third Reich, Herr Hitler reaped on that day at Munich the harvest of an audacious, defiant, ruthless foreign policy he had pursued for five and a half years. He had torn the Treaty of Versailles to shreds. He had rearmed Germany to the teeth—or as close to the tooth as he was able. He had stolen Austria before the eyes of a horrified and apparently impotent world.
All these events were shocking to nations which had defeated Germany on the battlefield only 20 years before, but nothing so terrified the world as the ruthless, methodical, Nazi-directed events which during late summer and early autumn threatened a world war over Czechoslovakia. When without loss of blood he reduced Czechoslovakia to a German puppet state, forced a drastic revision of Europe's defensive alliances, and won a free hand for himself in Eastern Europe by getting a "hands-off" promise from powerful Britain (and later France), Adolf Hitler without doubt became 1938's Man of the Year.

Most other world figures of 1938 faded in importance as the year drew to a close. Prime Minister Chamberlain's "peace with honor" seemed more than ever to have achieved neither. An increasing number of Britons ridiculed his appease-the-dictators policy, believed that nothing save abject surrender could satisfy the dictators' ambitions.


But, of course, why let a few facts get in the way of a ridiculous ideological analogy?
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Originally posted by Serial Midget


But, of course, why let a few facts get in the way of a ridiculous ideological analogy?

"...the facts, although interesting, are irrelevant..."

-OJ Trail Jury Member

:D
 

Stellite

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Feb 21, 2002
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Actually the parallel between Hitler and Saddam is uncanny. Saddam ruled by terror so did Hitler. Hitler had the SS, Saddam had the Fedeyin and Republican guard. Both Hitler and Saddam used torture. and finally.......Both got their azzes bombed
 

Trond

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Oct 22, 2002
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Oslo, Norway
Originally posted by Stellite
Actually the parallel between Hitler and Saddam is uncanny. Saddam ruled by terror so did Hitler. Hitler had the SS, Saddam had the Fedeyin and Republican guard. Both Hitler and Saddam used torture. and finally.......Both got their azzes bombed
good one :thumb: