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Health Care Reform is Dead

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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Death Panel selection party @ Casa De Pesqueeb 1830! Socialist manifesto reading starts at 1900 followed by Margaritas and homosexual agenda until we run out of tequila or Focus on the Family shows up with the cops.
marshmellow roast by the fire?
 

syadasti

i heart mac
Apr 15, 2002
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so are the rich white people still paying for it?
Its a tax cut for the rich, its more expensive for the healthcare system to pay for uninsured patients prior to the national scheme. Healthcare cost go down for a system everyone uses regardless of the laws.

Everyone else can just move to Mexico or Turkey if they want to stay in the only remaining industrial nations without it.
 
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
I'm glad someone else caught the CNN thing. When I checked the CNN website right when the news broke they were all about "Obamacare is dead!". Meanwhile I had a video stream running talking about how it was all being upheld. So :confused: for a couple minutes. It seemed like one of those "slips" that Faux news somehow seems to keep making.
 
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Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
Lulz! Posted by an acquaintance of mine on facebook.

So bummed...get out of VBS, turn on news radio and heard that our Country took a huge step backwards today thanks to the Supreme Court!! I CAN NOT wait till November!!
And yes, in this case the "VBS" stands for vacation bible school........
 

stoney

Part of the unwashed, middle-American horde
Jul 26, 2006
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Death Panel selection party @ Casa De Pesqueeb 1830! Socialist manifesto reading starts at 1900 followed by Margaritas and homosexual agenda until we run out of tequila or Focus on the Family shows up with the cops.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Pesqueeb again.
 

JohnE

filthy rascist
May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
Ask your favorite Neo COn right wing X-ian why it is okay morally to wage war but not to provide health caer...hilarity will ensue. I caught my fvorite idiot in a "Abortion is bad but the death penalty is good" loop the other day...made my week.
 

AngryMetalsmith

Business is good, thanks for asking
Jun 4, 2006
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I have no idea where I am
Ask your favorite Neo COn right wing X-ian why it is okay morally to wage war but not to provide health caer...hilarity will ensue. I caught my fvorite idiot in a "Abortion is bad but the death penalty is good" loop the other day...made my week.
It is quite entertaining to watch them stumble over the facts in their pursuit of said "loop". Especially the look on their face when they realize the contradiction and the following moment as they grasp for some Faux News sound bite to back them up.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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Ask your favorite Neo COn right wing X-ian why it is okay morally to wage war but not to provide health caer...hilarity will ensue. I caught my fvorite idiot in a "Abortion is bad but the death penalty is good" loop the other day...made my week.
Wait, let me guess, it went something like this:

JohnE - How can you support the death penalty but oppose abortion?
Xian - Easy, the criminal has been convicted of a crime, and there for should be punished. The fetus pre-baby is innocent of any crime.
JohnE - But Jesus has said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Can we really claim that our government, or a jury is free from sin?
Xian - Well, maybe he really didn't mean that....
JohnE - He also said, "remove the beam from your own eye before attempting to take the spec out of you neighbor's".
Xian - But the Bible says that the penalty for murder is *death*!
JohnE - That's in the Old Testament, where they also say that the death penalty should be imposed on disobedient children and that raped women must marry their rapists.
Xian - Oh now don't be ridiculous.
JohnE - I'm not, if you're going to quote Old Testament rules, then you can't cherry-pick. By the way, are you wearing a poly-cotton blend by any chance?
 

JohnE

filthy rascist
May 13, 2005
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Front Range, dude...
Almost verbatim...asked another one whether he opposed abortion on religious or political grounds. He says both...and goes ino a rant about how killing babies is legal, but crushing bald eagle eggs will send you to jail...I say so you are a Christian now? You know how the rest of it went...
 

stevew

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Sep 21, 2001
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Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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if by some stroke of sorcery...romney and his magic undergarments get elected...will we get the same people swearing they will move....

....and not follow through.
I'll be the first to say it: I won't move, because I can make a lot more money here than in Canada. It's as simple as that. I'll also be able to afford health insurance, either through premiums or taxes, and honestly Romney's policies would leave me more money in my pocket.

My interest in the country goes beyond my own pocketbook, though, and I think that Obama, flawed domestic-spying war-hawk that he is, would be better for the country (not to mention infinitely more to my liking on social policies) as a whole.

If we ever go full Brawndo and elect, say, a Palin, though...
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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^^^^Did, uh, you miss the part about how all of the people threatening to leave due to socialized medicine are threatening to go to a country with *actual* socialized medicine? It would be like people upset by GW's election threatening to go to.... Zimbabwe.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
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^^^^Did, uh, you miss the part about how all of the people threatening to leave due to socialized medicine are threatening to go to a country with *actual* socialized medicine? It would be like people upset by GW's election threatening to go to.... Zimbabwe.
:rofl:

And get so mad as to swing a cactus?
 

Toshi

Harbinger of Doom
Oct 23, 2001
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^^^^Did, uh, you miss the part about how all of the people threatening to leave due to socialized medicine are threatening to go to a country with *actual* socialized medicine? It would be like people upset by GW's election threatening to go to.... Zimbabwe.
I get that. I was replying to stevew's quip about liberals leaving should Romney win, independent of SCOTUS/ACA action.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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^^^^Did, uh, you miss the part about how all of the people threatening to leave due to socialized medicine are threatening to go to a country with *actual* socialized medicine? It would be like people upset by GW's election threatening to go to.... Zimbabwe.
yes dante...i got that...

it was to the fact that there are gigantic pussies on both sides....nothing more.
 
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$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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is there an info graphic on how many times harry pussy refused to allow for a vote house measures passed up to the senate?

tax dollars, indeed.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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so i sat in my blues clues thinking chair (steve, not joe) and believe this might have the widest appeal to both sides of the full-throated screaming match: if you don't want to pay, fine; then you opt out of both coverage *AND* care.

i could standup a db tonight that would serve as a registry of those who opt-out, and put this up on amazon cloud services for a few hundred dollars per year. there would be a 30 day grace period following your 26th birthday where you are covered, after which time the batch is uploaded through the gateway to the hosted HA cloud. so when the bus shows up to begin to put your unconscious ass back together after the juggalo gathering, they can scan for the rfid chip in the scruff of your neck to see if you're approved for care, or if they should take you to a landfill, transportation expensed to project overhead.

we done here?
 

Pesqueeb

bicycle in airplane hangar
Feb 2, 2007
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Riding the baggage carousel.
so i sat in my blues clues thinking chair (steve, not joe) and believe this might have the widest appeal to both sides of the full-throated screaming match: if you don't want to pay, fine; then you opt out of both coverage *AND* care.

i could standup a db tonight that would serve as a registry of those who opt-out, and put this up on amazon cloud services for a few hundred dollars per year. there would be a 30 day grace period following your 26th birthday where you are covered, after which time the batch is uploaded through the gateway to the hosted HA cloud. so when the bus shows up to begin to put your unconscious ass back together after the juggalo gathering, they can scan for the rfid chip in the scruff of your neck to see if you're approved for care, or if they should take you to a landfill, transportation expensed to project overhead.

we done here?
I could get on board with this.