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Serial Midget · Dec 15, 2003

Originally posted by Dog Welder
Oh I guess I'm one of those slow as whale guys...I just checked my 1.5 mile time and it was 12:30...I wasn't going all out...but I felt that I was going at a fair clip.

I caught that too... an 8:20 mile is just fine for someone who does not do running specific training. Starting at that you'd be below a 7 minuted pace in less than a month.

Jr_Bullit · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Serial Midget
I caught that too... an 8:20 mile is just fine for someone who does not do running specific training. Starting at that you'd be below a 7 minuted pace in less than a month.

That sounds about right...when I first started my loops here I was running 3 miles in about 24 minutes (I don't ever time myself down to the minute or second...I figure so long as I do better than yesterday - feel better, I must be improving)

I'm doing 5 miles now in 35 minutes...so not too bad, though I had some setbacks with injuries this year, as well as night school (hard to be motivated at 10pm to run when you've been up since 5am)

Serial Midget · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
I'm doing 5 miles now in 35 minutes...so not too bad, though I had some setbacks with injuries this year, as well as night school (hard to be motivated at 10pm to run when you've been up since 5am)

Ugh... I only go that fast for a 5K. I'm perfectly happy slogging along at an 8.5 minute mile - that's my marathon pace. Last Friday I did 5.3 miles in 41:48... I wasn't unhappy as the day before I did 10 in under 90 minutes. Had I pushed harder I would have worn myself out too much, I'm doing 120 miles this month.

Jr_Bullit · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Serial Midget
Ugh... I only go that fast for a 5K. I'm perfectly happy slogging along at an 8.5 minute mile - that's my marathon pace. Last Friday I did 5.3 miles in 41:48... I wasn't unhappy as the day before I did 10 in under 90 minutes. Had I pushed harder I would have worn myself out too much, I'm doing 120 miles this month.

Oooof! That doesn't sound like fun...10 miles?? I'm still working up to longer distances

. I think I have a hard time pacing myself tho...like there's apparently a good 13 mile off road run not too far from me, but I dunno if I've got what it takes to go that kind of distance just yet. That and after 5 miles my knees feel like they're gonna explode, usually if I run 5 miles hard (so roughly under 7 minutes) I end up icing after...and that's no fun at all.

How'd you train up to that kind of distance? I listen to music on my mp3 player....I might could run my loop twice I think if I slow down in the middle and stop and stretch a bit...

Snacks · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
That sounds about right...when I first started my loops here I was running 3 miles in about 24 minutes (I don't ever time myself down to the minute or second...I figure so long as I do better than yesterday - feel better, I must be improving)

I'm doing 5 miles now in 35 minutes...so not too bad, though I had some setbacks with injuries this year, as well as night school (hard to be motivated at 10pm to run when you've been up since 5am)

Dang girl that is fast! I never run that fast except for races.........I'm more with the pace of Midge. I do tempo runs twice a week to improve my speed and endurence. I usually run for a certain amount of time, not distance and try and improve my pace from there.

Booker · Dec 16, 2003

Right on man. I am so glad to see i am not the only person with this problem. I have just started a weight training/suppliment program in order to gain mass. I have gained 5 pounds in two weeks (my shirts are also starting to fit tighter in the chest area) My friends and even my family have commented on the definition in my chest/abs. All i have heard for months is bull**** from people bitching about how they have to lose weight and i am worried about gaining it. "Be happy you are skinny" :rolleyes:

Yeah try weighing 125lbs @5'4" tall see how great that feels. Granted i am "stronger" (strenght/weight ratio) than most people i know but i still don't look muscular. I eat more food than most people but my metabolism was so high that i just burned it all off. I haven't gained weight in about 5 years. I finally just started taking weight gainer/protien shakes and am seeing resaults. I have stopped eating three meals a day and have picked up the habbit of eating a nice breakfast and then grazing the rest of the day. I don't want to get huge and i know i never will. My body structure just isn't designed to get massive but i would like to gain 30-35 more pounds and bulk up my muscles so i can actually walk around without a shirt and not feel like a "stick with a pot belly". Good luck and thanks for the link to the website.

Chris

I Are Baboon · Dec 16, 2003

Bonk, that is a lot of supplements. Are you going to be eating any "regular" food??

Why the Vitamin C supplement AND the multi-vitamin? Most multi's contain about 500% of your Vitamin C RDA.

Your MRP or protein powder does not contain glutamine? I don't supplement L-glutamine because my protein blend contains it already.

Serial Midget · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Jr_Bullit
I end up icing after...and that's no fun at all.

If you are icing after only 5 miles you are doing harm to your joints. A common mistake bikers make is to run at the same effort level they bike at. Your average biker has much stronger thighs than your average runner - because of this it is easy to run faster than they should. Biking is low impact, running is high impact... the best thing you can do is SLOW down and find the pace that causes ZERO pain. If you drop from a 7 to an 8 minute pace you will automatically increase your endurance and mitigate the joint damage you are causing.

I'll give these examples of my personal bests for the last year.

1 mile = 6:16
5K = 6:28
10K = 7:16
13.1 miles 7:40
26.2 miles 8:31
50K 9:41 (31 miles of fireroad, 1200 feet of gain)

When the going gets tough over singletrack mountain trails in foul weather my pace drops dramatically as the elevation gain increases.

Jr_Bullit · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Serial Midget
If you are icing after only 5 miles you are doing harm to your joints. A common mistake bikers make is to run at the same effort level they bike at. Your average biker has much stronger thighs than your average runner - because of this it is easy to run faster than they should. Biking is low impact, running is high impact... the best thing you can do is SLOW down and find the pace that causes ZERO pain. If you drop from a 7 to an 8 minute pace you will automatically increase your endurance and mitigate the joint damage you are causing.

Interesting about the icing, vs. not. I don't generally ice unless a) the pain is really bad, and b) not after a long cool down - generally I wrap up a run with a long walk and then a good stretching session.

I'm one of the lucky ones that got to partially tear the tendons in each knee, just below the knee cap, as a kid when I was in gymnastics. Lol - talk about high impact with over-developed thighs...I was on vault and floor primarily. As a kid I wore thigh to shin knee braces for Track and Gymnastics, when I finally moved out of the high impact sports in college I dropped a ton of weight (fat and muscle) from my thighs and my ability to run/exercise without any form of bracing increased dramatically. However when the little buggers decide to hurt a wee bit, I tend to ice them up, rather than tape them when I run.

Yes yes, I know - not good.

I do understand the need to slow down the longer the distance I go. I have actually never tried to purposefully run fast, I just try to keep a steady pace the whole way around (thus my lack of knowledge of exactly my time on only one mile is). I do know that when I plan to only run the 3 mile route I'm able to do that in just under 20 minutes now, which is a faster minutes per mile time than my longer 5 mile routes.

I'll just have to try slowing my pace a bit and seeing if I can run a longer distance than 5 miles.

Snacks · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Serial Midget
If you are icing after only 5 miles you are doing harm to your joints. A common mistake bikers make is to run at the same effort level they bike at. Your average biker has much stronger thighs than your average runner - because of this it is easy to run faster than they should. Biking is low impact, running is high impact... the best thing you can do is SLOW down and find the pace that causes ZERO pain.

Dude that makes total since......Trailhacker started running with me a couple of years ago and I was in shock how fast he ran(he is not a runner at all). He would end up being in pain from shin splints after a mile. I tried to get him to slow down for a while to get his joints used to the impact but he just got discouraged and stopped.

I Are Baboon · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by Acadian
Bonk is gonna piss BRIGHT YELLOW for a while!!

Yup, and the protein farts he's going to be releasing are sure to kill any plant life in his house.

scroungydog · Dec 16, 2003

do what makes YOU happy! good luck

-dave-

Serial Midget · Dec 16, 2003

Originally posted by scroungydog
do what makes YOU happy!

But not in public... :think:

or with the blinds open. :monkey:

spincrazy · Dec 18, 2003

Crap. Wish I'd have checked into this thread sooner. I'm a skinny fokk too. 6ft/155-160lbs with a quite light bone structure. I'll never get huge, not possible, but I would like to add some 'weight' though - to my upper body especially. Damn do I hate the gym though. I prefer to get my exercise and fitness from specific activities. When I was rock climbing 4 times a week I probably put on close to 10 lbs up top. I wish I could do that again, but it's not gonna happen...

I'll be following your results Bonk. good luck. :monkey:

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