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interest in BMC frames...

-dustin

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interest in BMC frames this past week or so has sky rocketed. our shop has been feeling the lack of Lance Effect...has the Landis Effect taken over?

guy bought a Trek Madone SL 5.9 a month ago...he's now selling it for a BMC SLC01.
 

Ian F

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Sep 8, 2001
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I have to admit, I've been curious about them as well... mainly because I know little of BMC, not that I'm looking to buy one. Just goes to show that sponsorship can pay... :rolleyes:
 

GotMyGED

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Does Quality Bicycle Products own BMC? I know they bought out Salsa, so i thought they may have done the same with BMC.
 

dan-o

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Jun 30, 2004
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GotMyGED said:
Does Quality Bicycle Products own BMC? I know they bought out Salsa, so i thought they may have done the same with BMC.
No, BMC is out of switzerland. QBP is just the US distributor.
 

jaydee

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the Inbred said:
interest in BMC frames this past week or so has sky rocketed. our shop has been feeling the lack of Lance Effect...has the Landis Effect taken over?

guy bought a Trek Madone SL 5.9 a month ago...he's now selling it for a BMC SLC01.
If you can't go fast, you may as well look like you could if you really wanted to. I'm more impressed with the guy who comes out on an old SLX bike and schools everybody.
 

SuspectDevice

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Aug 23, 2002
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BMC is pretty kooky Taiwanese stuff. It is actually owned by the same guy who own Phonak, as a sort of hobby.
Interview with one of Phonaks Designers here.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2006/tour06/tech/?id=/tech/2006/features/singenberger1

The BMC's have always looked stupid and gimmicky to me, and they are, especially their MTB frames and lower-end road frames. WAY to expensive as well. I also don't like how they try to represent the company like things are actually made in Switzerland. Even their custom TT bike comes from TW.
 

-dustin

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the only manufacturers i know of using it are Easton and BMC (who probably gets it from Easton). who else?
 

sanjuro

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SuspectDevice said:
BMC is pretty kooky Taiwanese stuff. It is actually owned by the same guy who own Phonak, as a sort of hobby.
Interview with one of Phonaks Designers here.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2006/tour06/tech/?id=/tech/2006/features/singenberger1

The BMC's have always looked stupid and gimmicky to me, and they are, especially their MTB frames and lower-end road frames. WAY to expensive as well. I also don't like how they try to represent the company like things are actually made in Switzerland. Even their custom TT bike comes from TW.
I didn't realize BMC was made in Taiwan. I believe they are a Swiss company, but it makes sense, considering the large Asian aerospace consortium vs. Swiss banking/chocolate...

Road frames are a dime a dozen to me, especially now that almost all of them are at the 15 lb mark. Most Euro companies don't get mountain biking, with the exception of Commencal and Scott...
 

Zutroy

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sanjuro said:
I didn't realize BMC was made in Taiwan. I believe they are a Swiss company, but it makes sense, considering the large Asian aerospace consortium vs. Swiss banking/chocolate...

Road frames are a dime a dozen to me, especially now that almost all of them are at the 15 lb mark. Most Euro companies don't get mountain biking, with the exception of Commencal and Scott...

Scott is actually a US company.
 

Zutroy

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sanjuro said:
They are, but I also believe their mtn bike designs orginate out of Europe first...


http://bikemag.com/news/newsarchive/012406_scott/

They actually started here, then they bought schwinn in the early 90s and didn't want to compete against them here in the US, they stopped selling pretty much eveything bike related, and all the US effort went into the Schwinn line the Euro into Scott. Most of the RD is in Europe, although with them brining them back into the US, some has shifted back here.

Scott use to have some really nifty stuff in the old days. The actually still hold the patent for clip on aerobars.
 

James

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Sep 11, 2001
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indieboy said:
everyone is using it now. it's just a better resin mixture
Nope, Easton has the only bicycle industry license to use the CNT technology. There is a very strict, patented way to make the nano resin, and only Easton has the rights to use it for bikes. It's pretty cool to see what the stuff looks like in suspension, it's pretty amazing stuff.
The new Looks use nano in their lugs, not in the tubes. I haven't seen exactly what they're doing, but it must be something different/new, as I Easton's license is excusive for this industry.
BMC's nano frame is made in Easton's factory in Taiwan, which is actually their best carbon facility, their setup in Mexico isn't nearly as high-tech.
I got a chance to check out the new BMC bike a couple of weeks ago, and I was really impressed with the build quality, and how light the frame was. I'd ride one in a heartbeat.

JJames
 

James

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indieboy said:
i was under the impression that look was using it for the tubesets as well. oh well
Still, their '07 bikes look amazing. I have to say that it's probably the biggest year-to-year change in graphics and color that I've seen in a while, and it really, really looks good.
 

splat

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a Local Shop here has Wednesday Night rides , which I make every so often , they usually Break up into Fast/ Med/Slow and there are always 3 or 4 guys wearing Discovery/Postal Kits who go out with the fast group and are dropped in about 3 or 4 miles. and those are the same guys who look at me like I don't belong riding with my Backpack on. ( because I'm commuting )
 

indieboy

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Just James said:
Still, their '07 bikes look amazing. I have to say that it's probably the biggest year-to-year change in graphics and color that I've seen in a while, and it really, really looks good.
look or bmc?
 

speedster

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Mar 19, 2002
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sanjuro said:
I didn't realize BMC was made in Taiwan. I believe they are a Swiss company, but it makes sense, considering the large Asian aerospace consortium vs. Swiss banking/chocolate...

Road frames are a dime a dozen to me, especially now that almost all of them are at the 15 lb mark. Most Euro companies don't get mountain biking, with the exception of Commencal and Scott...
It's not about the weight. Yes, many road frames are sub 1000g-900g mark and they are light, but they don't ride well, crack or are flexy as hell. It's about ride quality, because when there are a multitude of frames out there at the same weight you need something important to distinguish them, and that would be ride quality. I have riden many top carbon frames and by far the best one from a large company is a TREK 5.9 Madone. The SL is lighter but I think the regular Madone rides better, and is still light. Their new 6.9 Madone SL coming out will be incredible, the only sub-900g bike with a horizontal tt, none of this compact-sloping tt crap. The best bike I have ever riden, out of all companies would be a TIME...amazing.
 

James

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SuspectDevice said:
BMC is pretty kooky Taiwanese stuff. It is actually owned by the same guy who own Phonak, as a sort of hobby.
Interview with one of Phonaks Designers here.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2006/tour06/tech/?id=/tech/2006/features/singenberger1

The BMC's have always looked stupid and gimmicky to me, and they are, especially their MTB frames and lower-end road frames. WAY to expensive as well. I also don't like how they try to represent the company like things are actually made in Switzerland. Even their custom TT bike comes from TW.
The custom TT bikes are all hand-made in Switzerland actually.
http://www.personal-precision-program.com/en/index.html
 

Pau11y

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the Inbred said:
the only manufacturers i know of using it are Easton and BMC (who probably gets it from Easton). who else?
I know for sure Mizuno is using it. HIGHLY under rated for their forks - just bought a MR20 Shark and they layup is incredible! I also think Kuota is as well. Chances are those two come from the same Taiwanese carbon farm.

On a side note, for those of you who've owned a lot of roadie frames: how does high end carbon compare to high end steel, say something like a Look, Time, BMC, Trek to bikes made w/ Foco, OX Platinum, ect...? I know there's a weight disadvantage in steel but for the non-race roadie riders, is it even a factor? And how's about longevity of carbon? Steel can easily reach the 10 year mark at prob 1/2 the cost of a nice carbon... But the cost thing aside, I'm mainly interested in ride quality comparison of the same class (carbon race bikes vs steel race bikes). Yeah yeah, I know, almost no one is racing on steel anymore...
 
the Inbred said:
interest in BMC frames this past week or so has sky rocketed. our shop has been feeling the lack of Lance Effect...has the Landis Effect taken over?

guy bought a Trek Madone SL 5.9 a month ago...he's now selling it for a BMC SLC01.

**POP!**

Didja hear that? That was the sounds of the BMC balloon popping. Glad we didn't invest a bunch of money in those goofy looking bikes!:nope: