[DirtMcGirk]

A letter to Jubilee from Momma Duggar

"Batsh!t crazy" really doesn't do it for me when it comes to the Duggars.

How does this work for Jimbob Duggar? Does he just pick a wall and ride it until he unloads his magical nut sack jeebus juice?

When you're up to 20, its time to quit. Even if you're that creepy Kody Brown guy, and you've made 18 babies with 4 ladies, its time to stop. Its not the time of the plague, 3/4 of your kids aren't going to die in the fields.

Someone needs to stop these people. Where is CPS when you really need them?

 

[JayBear]

just think of all the loose skin.

 

[ICEBALL585]

I wonder if they have a punch card for the hospital that they are trying to fill. Deliver 19 babies get the 20th delivery absolutely free.

 

[dante]

 

[Mr Jones]

doh! deleted?


edit... nope, just moved to PaWN.

I was worried there for a sec...

 

[Mr Jones]

.... if your family tree does not fork....

 

[jonKranked]

Vice President Frito took 8 wives and had a total of 32 kids. Thirty-two of the dumbest kids ever to walk the Earth.

 

[Silver]

A family photo with #20? Who cares that Jesus killed her in the womb, we paid a deposit to the photographer...

 

[jimmydean]

They had complications with the one before this. It's jeebus telling you to STOP! Damn, some people.

 

[Westy]

I wonder if they have a punch card for the hospital that they are trying to fill. Deliver 19 babies get the 20th delivery absolutely free.

Pretty sure they just fall out at this point. Instead of pushing she just has to stop clenching to hold it in.

 

[stevew]

just think of all the loose skin.

in the winter, when the power goes out, the family curls up in her cooter all nice and comfy.....

 

[dante]

Pretty sure they just fall out at this point. Instead of pushing she just has to stop clenching to hold it in.

Something along these lines....

 

[Beef Supreme]

Pretty sure they just fall out at this point. Instead of pushing she just has to stop clenching to hold it in.

I was picturing it as more of a game of pitch and catch.

 

[Andyman_1970]

Someone needs to stop these people. Where is CPS when you really need them?

First, let me preface this by saying I'm in no way advocating what the Duggars do, they are certainly weird to say the least.

While I would never want to try to have 20 kids (nor would my wife), why is it is any of our (your) business what they are doing? If they aren't living off the guberment teet (which from what I can tell they are not), why say things like "someone needs to stop these people!"

I don't know, it just seems hypocritical to hear the "someone needs to stop these people" from the similar peanut gallery that tells the conservatives to stay out of the business of those who are gay.

 

[JayBear]

Overpopulation is a huge enviromental issue...That.. and its gross..

 

[Pesqueeb]

I gotta agree with Andy on this one. Despite the fact that I find it absolutely horrific, further proof positive of how dangerous a little religion can be, and am more than a little concerned about over population issues, its a free country and if they aren't on the gubment teet, then whatev's.

 

[syadasti]

and if they aren't on the gubment teet, then whatev's.

They are:

The Duggar Family gets a tax deduction of $3,400 per child 19 kids X $3,400 = $64,600 per year. Plus $500 per child tax CREDIT = $9500. These leeches are living tax free.

There should be incentives for having less children, not more since they will be a greater drain on society than an average family.

 

[JayBear]

How much money you think they get back on there returns for those "dependents"...I mean children..?

 

[syadasti]

How much money you think they get back on there returns for those "dependents"...I mean children..?

Not sure but with 20 we'll be paying a $68K deduction and $10K credit.

 

[JayBear]

"why is it is any of our (your) business what they are doing? If they aren't living off the guberment teet (which from what I can tell they are not), why say things like "someone needs to stop these people!"--Andy

I have no children, work and pay alot of taxes.

Have as many kids as you want..(its your Va jaj jay) Just be able to afford them without a hand out..

 

[Silver]

First, let me preface this by saying I'm in no way advocating what the Duggars do, they are certainly weird to say the least.

While I would never want to try to have 20 kids (nor would my wife), why is it is any of our (your) business what they are doing? If they aren't living off the guberment teet (which from what I can tell they are not), why say things like "someone needs to stop these people!"

I don't know, it just seems hypocritical to hear the "someone needs to stop these people" from the similar peanut gallery that tells the conservatives to stay out of the business of those who are gay.

Wait, flag on the play...

You mean to tell me that the esteemed Mr. Dirt, Esq., who would have political power only in a hypothetical country where Hunter S. Thompson was on the back of every coin, makes a statement that could easily be read as hyperbole (When I tell someone to go to hell, I don't mean it, after all. It's akin to telling them to stuff their head into the oven at Hansel and Gretel's gingerbread house.) and you think it's akin to the organized push by one of the two major political parties in the country to define gay people as less than human?

Yeah, that's a 10 yard penalty for "Irrational Christian Persecution Complex" right there.

 

[Andyman_1970]

"why is it is any of our (your) business what they are doing? If they aren't living off the guberment teet (which from what I can tell they are not), why say things like "someone needs to stop these people!"--Andy

I have no children, work and pay alot of taxes.

Have as many kids as you want.. Just be able to afford them without a hand out..

Is taking a tax deduction on a child a "hand out"........because if that's the case I'm guiltily x3. So when you have kids you won’t take the child tax deduction?

They are self sufficient run several businesses in NW Arkansas. They provide their own health care (ie not on AR Kids First, or anything like that), they don't get welfare, or WIC or anything like that. So I stand by me earlier assertion they aren't on the "teet" any more than your "normal" family is......... Has anyone checked their returns and know for sure they are using all (any) the deductions? These people are all about being self sufficient, homeschool, stuff like that (except when Discovery Channel wants to chip in).

Granted, those folks are weird as frack, but Jim Bob and company look like geniuses compared to the likes of Octomom. Also, as jacked as their thinking is, I'm fairly certain it's not "oh look our 20th tax deduction honey".

This is my ultimate “issue” with the discussion on the Duggars. I enjoy the PAWN so I can consume and interact with a variety of objective points of view. Now granted the PAWN has a certain “leaning” but it’s also substantiated with data. Going on about the Duggars because they are “gross”…….oh but also not so coincidentally VERY conservative, makes as much sense as some frothing Repub type going on that “fags” are gross. If the insistence is that by and large society should “stay out of the bedroom” with respect to peoples lives, then do the same for the Duggars. It’s pure hypocrisy to flame some troll to death because they “hate fags” on here, and then cast judgment on the Duggars for how they choose to live their lives.

 

[Andyman_1970]

Wait, flag on the play...

You mean to tell me that the esteemed Mr. Dirt, Esq., who would have political power only in a hypothetical country where Hunter S. Thompson was on the back of every coin, makes a statement that could easily be read as hyperbole (When I tell someone to go to hell, I don't mean it, after all. It's akin to telling them to stuff their head into the oven at Hansel and Gretel's gingerbread house.) and you think it's akin to the organized push by one of the two major political parties in the country to define gay people as less than human?

Yeah, that's a 10 yard penalty for "Irrational Christian Persecution Complex" right there.

Hold the fort Nancy, I never alluded to the fact they were “persecuted” because of their faith………the statement on here was “gross”.

………….and you think it's akin to the organized push by one of the two major political parties in the country to define gay people as less than human?

First, I was speaking purely as to the ideology here on the PAWN, not the greater BS that surrounds Christians trying to marginalize people that are gay. It’s ok on the PAWN to tear up say Hello Kitty (and rightfully so) for spewing his hate towards the gey, but when a conservative family does something out of the norm it’s “game on”. It’s ideological hypocrisy on the part of a few on the PAWN not some greater “persecution” complex……………you of all people should know me better than that.

 

[Silver]

And there's another flag on the play. You're going to need more Jesus than Tebow to get that ball back to the line of scrimmage, my friend.

Incidentally, can you find a serious post here where someone praises Octomom? If you can, I'd grant you the Duggar thing was about Christians instead of about bat**** crazy people doing stupid things.

(Oh wait, Octomom is crazy, the Duggars are just following the commands of an asshole God the was made up in the middle east about 3000 years ago. Totally different, of course )

 

[Silver]

Hold the fort Nancy, I never alluded to the fact they were “persecuted” because of their faith………the statement on here was “gross”.

I wasn't saying the Duggars are the ones guilty of Irrational Christian Persecution Complex...

 

[Andyman_1970]

I wasn't saying the Duggars are the ones guilty of Irrational Christian Persecution Complex...

True, most of that "flavor" of Christianity think there is a "War on Christmas" and other such non-sense.........

 

[dante]

Is taking a tax deduction on a child a "hand out"........because if that's the case I'm guiltily x3. So when you have kids you won’t take the child tax deduction?

A tax deduction is a handout if you believe (as I do) that the government has to be funded somehow, and the less someone pays due to special circumstances the more other people have to pay.*

The refundable child-care tax credit is DEFINITELY a handout regardless of what you believe. The government writes you a check regardless of the taxes you pay for every child you have. If you don't pay any income tax, the government still will write you a check. That's a handout in anyone's book.




*Note, I don't think that there's anything to be ashamed of about a government handout. I freely admit that the government is handing me money for my decision to own a home, both in the mortgage income tax deduction as well as subsidizing my mortgage so that I pay a lower interest rate than I would on the free-market.

 

[eaterofdog]

They should cancel their show and put them on "Hoarders" Just walk a camera through the house and point it at the piles of children in the corners of every room.

 

[JayBear]

Going on about the Duggars because they are “gross”…….oh but also not so coincidentally VERY conservative, makes as much sense as some frothing Repub type going on and on and on and on.----Angry Andy

I was talking about her body being gross. From being a child factory. Twenty kids. Not healthy. Definitely not tight like a tiger.

 

[Pesqueeb]

Derp.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/29/duggars-overpopulation_n_1387640.html

 

[woodsguy]

the entire population of the world could fit inside of Jacksonville, Florida

To fit 7 billion people into Jacksonville (which is huge - 874 square miles! Nearly twice the size of LA and almost the size of RI!) everyone would only have 3.5 square feet each. That would be one crowded city! Considering that most Americans are wider than 1.8' it would be a tight squeeze!

 

[kidwoo]

Dumb lady is bad at math.

News at 11.

 

[Kevin]

Someone needs to put a cork in that woman.
Make that two corks...

 

[AngryMetalsmith]

"The idea of overpopulation is not accurate," Duggar says, because the entire population of the world could fit inside of Jacksonville, Florida.

Really ?

 

[$tinkle]

To fit 7 billion people into Jacksonville (which is huge - 874 square miles! Nearly twice the size of LA and almost the size of RI!) everyone would only have 3.5 square feet each. That would be one crowded city! Considering that most Americans are wider than 1.8' it would be a tight squeeze!

having lived in FL for more than a few years, when she said that i thought she was doing a piece for the onion.

jax is the largest city by area in the lower 48, so i'm not sure she helped her cause with that bit of trivia

...now then...

[csb]
just spent a few days in angelfire/taos, and once i got an hour south of home, there's more pronghorn than ppl
[/csb]

but i have a feeling most of those posters here assail her position not based upon research, but her belief system. this forum is nothing if not consistent.

 

[Beef Supreme]

but i have a feeling most of those posters here assail her position not based upon research, but her belief system. this forum is nothing if not consistent.

I'll bite. Let's focus on her actual argument. I will even assume that what she says is factually correct. Imagine what would happen if you confined the worlds population to an area the size of Jacksonville. It would make anyone's wildest vision of the zombie apocalypse look like a day at Disneyland. On the plus side, we would have a selection of the fittest of the species in a matter of days. Cheery eh?

The problem with a stupid belief system is that it causes one to have stupid positions. Either are fair game for ridicule in my book.

 

[$tinkle]

I'll bite. Let's focus on her actual argument. I will even assume that what she says is factually correct. Imagine what would happen if you confined the worlds population to an area the size of Jacksonville. It would make anyone's wildest vision of the zombie apocalypse look like a day at Disneyland. On the plus side, we would have a selection of the fittest of the species in a matter of days. Cheery eh?

The problem with a stupid belief system is that it causes one to have stupid positions. Either are fair game for ridicule in my book.

the only thing worse than a "stupid belief system" is the unwillingness or inability to comprehend a message

this is the mind that can easily be led by the nose ring.

 

[Pesqueeb]

but i have a feeling most of those posters here assail her position not based upon research, but her belief system. this forum is nothing if not consistent.

Your goddamn right. She's a fvcking idiot and she proved it by opening her mouth and speaking.

 

[kidwoo]

the only thing worse than a "stupid belief system" is the unwillingness or inability to comprehend a message

Kind of like reading a few lines in the bible and thinking moar kidz gets you favor in heaven.

 

[$tinkle]

Your goddamn right. She's a fvcking idiot and she proved it by opening her mouth and speaking.

she can't shut her legs nor her mouth -- you think she's some sort of mobius meat-curtain matriarch?

Kind of like reading a few lines in the bible and thinking moar kidz gets you favor in heaven.

wait...are we talking white heaven or black heaven?