Levi disco's!

-dustin · Jul 25, 2006

i had a dream last night that Cycling news was reporting the death of Hincapie. something about a heart failure. strange.

Ian F · Jul 25, 2006

The Toninator said:
hummm seems like a tour gc rider to me. big george will probably jump ship if levi get's the nod (my opinion.)

Or George will decide he is a better support rider who can go for the occasional win than a G.C. rider.... You may be correct, but I hope you're not. We shall see.

MMcG · Jul 25, 2006

I guess this means that Landis will stay with Phonak (which will be ishares next year).

Wumpus · Jul 25, 2006

The Toninator said:
hummm seems like a tour gc rider to me. big george will probably jump ship if levi get's the nod (my opinion.)

I don't know. George really likes the spring classics. So if they support him in riding those, I doubt he will go anywhere.

Wumpus · Jul 25, 2006

The Toninator said:
btw - rhode waco for the first time in 2 years saturday. wowouch!
we didnt start till 11ish. 1 lap = 4 water bottles.

I rode with Nando and Rocio a couple of weekends ago starting around 9, and I nearly ended with heat stroke. If I can't hit the trails by 7am, I ain't riding.

Heidi · Jul 25, 2006

Hmmm, Georgie is back to support for stage races. He could rock the classics if he just focused on those and didn't break anything.

I guess that's good for Levi, but I hoped they would get a better GC rider for the big stage races. Levi is soooo hit or miss. Miss on this past tour. I don't know why, I've just never really dug the guy.

Squeak · Jul 25, 2006

Levi is kind of old...

Develop Tom D!

OGRipper · Jul 25, 2006

They are developing Tom D, but he needs more time.

So far Levi has lacked a really strong team, good tactics, and personal aggression. Disco can immediately offer the first and may be able to teach him the second and third. He may not win the biggest races but Levi can get good results right away while helping develop other riders.

I really like George but I just don't see him as a GC contender in the big tours. He may follow the money and take a big offer but me thinks he should just stay put.

How about George on T-Mobile and the Jan on Disco?!

Westy · Jul 25, 2006

The Toninator said:
toninator - not a fan (not a hater either but not a fan)
he did improve on last years tour place though.
I'd like to see BASSO come over.

I'm going to take a guess here that Ivan won't be racing for the next 2 years or so, the cheek swap from a genetics test will traumatise him sooo much.

sanjuro · Jul 25, 2006

The Discovery drug program is the best. Look at Landis, Hamilton, and that other guy from Texas...

Westy · Jul 25, 2006

The Toninator said:
last report i read he was getting ready for the vuelta.

Yep, and Tyler is getting ready to race in September.

DBR X6 RIDER · Jul 26, 2006

Speaking of Team Discovery, it's a shame that Ekimov is hanging up the cleats (he could probably roll until he's 50) but it's good to see he's taking on a team director role. With him and Brunyeel at the helm, they will have some serious tactical ability regardless of who's riding for them.
I think bringing Leipheimer back is a good call. He may or may not garnish some big results - at the very least, he'll improve his chances. As mentioned, he can at least help to mentor some of the up-and-comers. Both sides will benefit from his return. And, yes, Hincapie should put all of his focus on the classics and for support/stage wins at the grand tours. It hurt to see him falling backwards day after day during the TdF. At least he got to wear yellow!!! :cool:

-dustin · Jul 26, 2006

imagine Jan in Discovery kit...that'd be crazy.

MtnbikeMike · Jul 26, 2006

I was kinda hoping Discovery would pick up Floyd.

DBR X6 RIDER · Jul 26, 2006

Jan in any kit aside from T-Mobile would be the best thing to happen to him. Look at what he did in '03 w/ Bianchi...and that was a total makeshift team. T-Mobile probably couldn't sport a TdF winner even if the rest of the teams walked the race. IMHO, they are one of the worst teams when it comes to racing strategy.

sanjuro · Jul 26, 2006

OGRipper said:
They are developing Tom D, but he needs more time.

So far Levi has lacked a really strong team, good tactics, and personal aggression. Disco can immediately offer the first and may be able to teach him the second and third. He may not win the biggest races but Levi can get good results right away while helping develop other riders.

I really like George but I just don't see him as a GC contender in the big tours. He may follow the money and take a big offer but me thinks he should just stay put.

How about George on T-Mobile and the Jan on Disco?!

Not to start hating, but isn't Tom Danielson 26 years old? Cunego is 23 and Boonen 25?

EDIT, Danielson was born in 78

golgiaparatus · Jul 26, 2006

The Toninator said:
hummm seems like a tour gc rider to me. big george will probably jump ship if levi get's the nod (my opinion.)

Why would George jump? Its not like he was kicking a lot of butt this year.

Cant Climb · Jul 26, 2006

PreTour Levi was excited about his Gero team this year comparing it Rabobank a couple years ago where he was unhappy......not sure what goes through his head. Rabobank on the other hand was strong this year. Then he comes up so small in the first TT, you just cant do that if your a true contender. Not a hater, but i think people need to get over waiting for this guy, he cant get it done. He would make a good 1st lieutenant support rider thats it.......as for Danielson, not sure he has 'the minerals' either.....

Silver · Jul 26, 2006

Develop Danielson...hahaha.

Danielson is never going to see the podium at Le Tour.

Ian F · Jul 26, 2006

Silver said:
Develop Danielson...hahaha.

Danielson is never going to see the podium at Le Tour.

Maybe... but most would have said the same about Floyd.

Back in the mid 90's when Lance won the World Championships he was pegged as a one-day Classics racer and would never be a Tour contender...

You never know... :nope:

Silver · Jul 26, 2006

Ian F said:
Maybe... but most would have said the same about Floyd.

Back in the mid 90's when Lance won the World Championships he was pegged as a one-day Classics racer and would never be a Tour contender...

You never know...

No, I'm sure about Tommy D. Floyd at Danielson's age was already a hell of a domestiqe for the most dominant tour rider in history. Has Danielson finished a Tour de France yet? He's 28 already. By the time he has a chance, Cunego is going to be kicking him all over the road.

You want an American darkhorse? If Zabriske can learn to climb...

Cant Climb · Jul 26, 2006

The Toninator said:
well i'm hearing rumors again. tyler is getting heat again becuase he was named in the operation punto (or whatever.) I'm not sure Tyler is going to get to race UCI ever again.

Next offense for Tyler and he is banned for life.....he is named in 'the spanish inquisition'

sanjuro · Jul 26, 2006

Silver said:
No, I'm sure about Tommy D. Floyd at Danielson's age was already a hell of a domestiqe for the most dominant tour rider in history. Has Danielson finished a Tour de France yet? He's 28 already. By the time he has a chance, Cunego is going to be kicking him all over the road.

You want an American darkhorse? If Zabriske can learn to climb...

Finished? Entered...

blue · Jul 26, 2006

Silver said:
No, I'm sure about Tommy D. Floyd at Danielson's age was already a hell of a domestiqe for the most dominant tour rider in history. Has Danielson finished a Tour de France yet? He's 28 already. By the time he has a chance, Cunego is going to be kicking him all over the road.

You want an American darkhorse? If Zabriske can learn to climb...

If Zabriskie can pull a Lance and learn to climb, you have a MONSTER, but I don't think it's going to happen. Most of the riders on CSC are at the top of their game (according to my roadie neighbors), it seems unlikely he'll do much better in the mountains, especially with his age (28?).

Faster than Lance in the time trials...he just needs to ride up Guardsman more...

sanjuro · Jul 27, 2006

blue said:
If Zabriskie can pull a Lance and learn to climb, you have a MONSTER, but I don't think it's going to happen. Most of the riders on CSC are at the top of their game (according to my roadie neighbors), it seems unlikely he'll do much better in the mountains, especially with his age (28?).

Faster than Lance in the time trials...he just needs to ride up Guardsman more...

He needs to get on "The Program"...

Westy · Jul 27, 2006

The Toninator said:
well i'm hearing rumors again. tyler is getting heat again becuase he was named in the operation punto (or whatever.) I'm not sure Tyler is going to get to race UCI ever again.

Kind of my point. I guess the sarcasm wasn't thick enough. I should have said OJ also claims to be looking for the real killer.

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