[DaveW]

Quite a fascinating theory on mafia economics as the "proto state" origins of nations.
and how it plays with the Putin era in Russia.

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1501360272442896388

humble apologies to JBP for the linkage to twatter but it is what it is.

 

[Changleen]

That’s pretty interesting. The hole I see is awareness; if they’re so dumb how can they understand this, and choose simple extractive options accordingly? Or is it that the successful ones are the ones that survive, evolutionarily like? Or are they just lazy and violent and lucky?

 

[DaveW]

I think it's a lil bit of column A
Lil bit more of column B
combined with a fairly brutal calculus.

*edit*
The number of nation states that HAVE NOT be formed by a person or group with indifference (if not glee) to harm to others is a pretty low number.

 

[Changleen]

Yes. Hopefully we can grow up.

 

[johnbryanpeters]

Yes. Hopefully we can grow up.

We're not as a species going to grow up. We're incapable of it.

 

[StiHacka]

The story of Zetor->Vladimiretz reminds me of the ole good times of socialism and USSR so much. Same bullshit, same cronyism, nothing ever changed in russia apart from the symbols on their flag. And they want to rule the world. :facepalm: