http://www.velonews.com/article/93054/a-shattering-experience---a-post-recall-r-sys-wheel-failure
From Velonews: Post-recall self destructing wheel.
From Velonews: Post-recall self destructing wheel.
Mavic Wheel = Epic Fail
- Thread starter OGRipper
- Start date
Carbon hater.
irate2:
Funny how far people will go for performance.
irate2:Funny how far people will go for performance.
I am not a carbon hater. I've been riding carbon-kevlar spoked wheels (topolino) on my road bike for years, and I love my new carbon trail bike.
I am, however, a "just-riding-along-and-my-expensive-POST-RECALL-wheel-exploded-and-maimed-me" hater.
I am, however, a "just-riding-along-and-my-expensive-POST-RECALL-wheel-exploded-and-maimed-me" hater.
My coworker managed to trade his recall ones in for some Ksyrium ES wheels, but I wasn't as lucky. I think homeboy was just busy, and didn't get what I was asking. I'm going to try again though, as the Ksyriums are nice wheels, and the R-Sys just scare me now. I shudder to think of the 40+ mph descents I carved on those...
Hence the pirate.
yup - I did over 40 on a Roubaix SL2 with them.
Scary!yup - I did over 40 on a Roubaix SL2 with them.
And how many times did I see a pro CX racer on the tubular versions of these things last year?
i just read that article and Mavic's response to it
http://velonews.com/article/93240/mavic-responds-to-wheel-collapse-article
seems Mavic isn't all too happy with the article. if i read it right, looks like their passing off the blame to the rider and not the wheel which is not a good sign.
http://velonews.com/article/93240/mavic-responds-to-wheel-collapse-article
seems Mavic isn't all too happy with the article. if i read it right, looks like their passing off the blame to the rider and not the wheel which is not a good sign.
I've crashed more times than I like to remember, including one in a race using Ksyriums.
Even if your head tube sheered off, most likely you will hit your shoulder on the ground first.
Unless it was a head on collision, the front wheel takes little impact.
Even if your head tube sheered off, most likely you will hit your shoulder on the ground first.
Unless it was a head on collision, the front wheel takes little impact.
Not to mention, they're making stuff up now.
Exhibit A:
From the original VN article:Mavic said:
Then they go on to shoot themselves in the foot
Also...Mavic said:
Of course the hub would drop down a scratch the ground...unless it was stopped by the rim which was still present (which was ovalized!).Mavic said:
So much more fail in their response, too
i'm surprised by their response. i have always used Mavic for my road bikes and have never had a problem with them. this type of response makes me wonder just what the hell their thinking of. i'm sure the first recall wasn't cheap, but if it doesn't work then recall them and start again for safety reasons and owner loyalty. hollow carbon spokes are just plain spooky.
I have always loved Mavic wheels since my 99 CrossMax. I hope they get this fixed so I can get a sex wheelset like that some day.
In Mavics defense....
They clearly stated, several times, they have NOT yet determined the cause of the crash or failure.
The evidence of scratch or impact to the fork they are talking is clearly with the ground, not tire. They're not making stuff up.
If the wheel failed as the rider believes, the rim would no longer be attached to the hub or bike for that matter.
It seems reasonable to question if the bike would have flipped from the tire hitting the fork if the hub was no longer attached to rim. The load path required to launch rider OTB would no longer exist. The fork would have found its way to ground (now you have a load path that will launch the rider OTB), causing the bike to flip....causing scratches and evidence of impact to the fork (or hub), which was not present.
All Mavic is stating is that there is evidence that does not support the initial theory and they are continuing to investigate the incident.
They clearly stated, several times, they have NOT yet determined the cause of the crash or failure.
The evidence of scratch or impact to the fork they are talking is clearly with the ground, not tire. They're not making stuff up.
If the wheel failed as the rider believes, the rim would no longer be attached to the hub or bike for that matter.
It seems reasonable to question if the bike would have flipped from the tire hitting the fork if the hub was no longer attached to rim. The load path required to launch rider OTB would no longer exist. The fork would have found its way to ground (now you have a load path that will launch the rider OTB), causing the bike to flip....causing scratches and evidence of impact to the fork (or hub), which was not present.
All Mavic is stating is that there is evidence that does not support the initial theory and they are continuing to investigate the incident.
It could be that not all of the spokes failed immediately, but enough did that it caused the the fork to drop onto the tire, making him flip over the bars and possibly breaking the remainder of the spokes. Just adding to the speculation...
My guess is that the breaking wheel jammed in the fork and the bike flipped over before the hub had a chance to contact anything.
I am also disappointed at Mavic's "blame the victim" response.
What part of 'we haven't determined the cause' sounds like they're blaming victim?