But, 59,106,230 Americans say you are wrong.
Why not accept it with some class and dignity like your candidate did?
Why not accept it with some class and dignity like your candidate did?
ok, now I know a lot of you think this didn't turn out well.....
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hard to argue that one....D
Because this time they were SPANKED hard by the electorate. Not only did a majority of Americans vote Bush back into the White House but they also rejected liberal canidates in House and Senate races, reinforcing the Republican Majority's hold.
In short they were OWN3D hard and nobody likes to be that...
In short they were OWN3D hard and nobody likes to be that...
i'll rest easy when this issue is resolved: http://www.counterbias.com/152.html . i bet the foia request for audit logs will be stonewalled for sake of "national security" or other such garbage
Oh c'mon.
You know the left wouldn't have a single complaint about the count or Diebold machines if Kerry had won.
You know the left wouldn't have a single complaint about the count or Diebold machines if Kerry had won.
um, no? since i'm not a liberal i can't speak for all of the "left" but i and similarly minded people have been raising a ruckus about diebold and co. for quite some time now. it's wrong, no matter who benefits from it.Damn True said:
Toshi said:
The irony is your liberal media allies got it wrong and basically announced a Kerry victory before 5PM on election day based on really bad info.
Toshi said:
Uh... yeeah... riiiight...
read my link. there is no irony: the exit polls did show kerry to have leads, where the final count was significantly different.N8 said:The irony is your liberal media allies got it wrong and basically announced a Kerry victory before 5PM on election day based on really bad info.
Toshi said:
EXIT...
POLLS....
way to pay attention, i guess it is hard to read other threads when you're posting drivel all day: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=989036 . i'm about halfway between a liberal and a libertarian, since i differ with both on various issues (i'm against gun control, for instance)N8 said:Uh... yeeah... riiiight...
True, I would not call Toshi far left at all (he thinks too much for that). I was refering to the far left and the media in my comment, not to Toshi.
Damn True said:
My bad... I often mistakenly think of Toshi and Silver as being the same person...
I'm far left? News to me...N8 said:
I'll try to curb the profanity, so you goody-goody people might even read this post.Damn True said:
I said screw it, ban me for all I care, I'll flame at will. In fact i asked to be removed. RM won't eliminate my user name, and because I have respect for you, I'll answer this one. I've been on RM a long time, but it sucks here now. I'm over it. I said goodbye to RM for awhile after the war started, I couldnt take all the bloodlust. I stuck around the last few months to hopefully be a voice against the war mongering and lameness. Didn't work then, doesn't work now. I cant see one more lame ass N8(hate) post.
I am not "wrong" for thinking this did not turn out well. Sour grapes? Hell yes - too sour to swallow.
59,106,230 Americans that voted Bush beat out the ones who voted against. The rest of the Americans who didn't get to the polls to bring him down are just as much to blame for Bush winning as the 59,106,230 Americans that voted him in.
Not enoough people cared, and Kerry wasn't enough to make them care.
Could Kerry have stopped it all? No. He could have at least tried to turn it around though and that was worth my vote.
I told people off today on RM, and I still feel the same way. If you voted for Bush, you voted to continue the downward spiral. You voted to have the war in Iraq continue, with no plan to get out. You voted to have more Americans put in harm's way. You voted for the bank accounts of a few very rich men over the good of this country. You voted to be a "war country" run by a "war president". You voted with your bible, not your mind. You voted against our environment, and against our kids.
That's lame, so my comments were valid, if you ask me. I'm not alone in my feelings here. This wasn't a vote for high school class president here, this election has some very grave consequences.
Many more people are going to die for $$$$$$.
Call me a hater, call my childish, what ever. This is a very sad day, and in my opinion, you guys suck. We had a chance to make a great country in big trouble be a safer, better place, and you and the apathetic asses that didn't vote, blew it.
Nite, I'm gonna go home and hug my kid.
Well I guess there's only one response I can give to thatbomberz1qr20 said:
0wN3d!!!! :nuts:
Your comments are absolutely valid and I respect them. Furthermore I respect you for being a man of conviction and passion. You know I have never called you or anyone else stupid, ignorant or anything else for having and stating their beliefs. [The stupid and ignorant are the ones that spray w/o understanding and simply mimic the opinions of others.]
....and you are right Kerry was not enough. The mandate to the left is clear. You have to offer a real candidate, not a plan "b".
Hug your kid for me too.
....and you are right Kerry was not enough. The mandate to the left is clear. You have to offer a real candidate, not a plan "b".
Hug your kid for me too.
BurlyShirley said:Well I guess there's only one response I can give to that
0wN3d!!!! :nuts:
Dude, that isn't cool.
Show some respect for a man who actually understands what he believes even if you don't agree with him.
One of RM's first commandments:
You can disagree. But you can't be disagreeable.
The dude knows Im messing with him. We do it all the time. Quit being a wuss.Damn True said:
I expect no less or no more from BS.Damn True said:
I get his sense of...(what's that word?....) oh yes, "humor"
We got owned. All of us. Me, you, BS, N8, everyone. We got owned, and we have been HAD.
bomberz1qr20 said:
Jesus Christ... how many time are you going to leave RM today?
I contend, you ain't going anywhere and that you'll be posting again tomorrow and the day after, and the day after the day after....
Remember there will be another election in 4 years, and no matter what... Pres Geo Bush can't win that one. Not to say that America won't elect another Pres Bush, as in Jeb Bush, though.
Buck up, it's not your fault Kerry lost the election it's the DNC's. Kerry managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
I got your PM and I chaulked it up to the passion of the moment. No biggie and I don't think less of you.
So cheer up, ride your bike and post on RM later.
%50 of any group is below average. In fact, I'd wager a bet that democrats are %15 smarter IQ wise.
actually you'd lose your bet. democrats get the stereotypical college kid demographic, but also draw much of their support from the union workers, minorities, urban poor, all groups that are traditionally poor, uneducated and not fond of iq tests.ioscope said:
ioscope said:
Based on what?
I hope that I am wrong but the thing that really burns my britches is that the whole election was never really about the important issues. It was Kerry talking about Viet Nam, who cares. Bush calling Kerry a flip flopper and a liberal, who cares. Swifties, who cares. Gay marriage, who cares. There was never any real discussion about the deficit, paying for the baby boomer retirements, unemployement, an effective strategy on terrorism. It was all about baseless spin, but I guess that is nothing new.
If I felt that Bush was re-elected because people were voting on the issues I would probably be happy. But from the people I have talked to, they voted for him because of a feeling of patriotism left over from 9-11, not because they thought he has done a good job. But again I could only argue against him and offer that Kerry wasn't as bad. Either way it was a game of spin and the Republicans did a much better job.
What really scares me now is Bush feels he has a mandate and may go to even further extremes.
If I felt that Bush was re-elected because people were voting on the issues I would probably be happy. But from the people I have talked to, they voted for him because of a feeling of patriotism left over from 9-11, not because they thought he has done a good job. But again I could only argue against him and offer that Kerry wasn't as bad. Either way it was a game of spin and the Republicans did a much better job.
What really scares me now is Bush feels he has a mandate and may go to even further extremes.
He's already got Republicans slapping him down for using the word "mandate".Westy said:
Because I'm not like others who are going to roll over and play B*tch for someone just because everyone else is. I grew up a punk rocker/hardcore mosh pit junkie in a suburban town... I've never thought too highly of the majority. I always was and still am an angry person by my nature (dont know why). While all the other 16-18 year olds were trying to feel up girls and find a way to get drunk, I was on a train going to the city to see some bands and let some of my pent up rage flow. Mob mentality is not always good thing, and you should challenge it when it's wrong.Damn True said:
If you can show me that I am wrong, I will change my mind (A N8 cut-n-paste parade will not achieve this...). But no one has proven to me that I am wrong, so I will continue to dislike this president and keep my opinion that he is a liar and a cheat.
I agree with bomberz1qr20 that people did not vote with their minds. People go to church and are told what to believe without a reason or proof, and call it faith. If they were to challenge it, they are told they are evil and will be punished for eternity for it. So they have raised people who are conditioned to not challenge authority figures... they hear something and they take it for truth. Even when those authority figures do bad things, people are willing to let it slide or hide it so that they can keep the image of infallibility (Church abuse scandal ). When confronted with evidence that proves that the leader told a lie, they refuse to accept it b/c they are conditioned that way.
The GOP knows this and uses it to their advantage just look at how often Bush cites god. Religion was a huge issue in this campaign it was a tool used by the Bush team. As I have said before based on his actions and teachings, Jesus Christ would be a very left liberal. So why it is that someone who claims to be such a follower of his so far right?
Compared to N8, everyone is far left... even Bush is probably a little left of him. :evil:Silver said:
Like high five slapping him for pronouncing it correctly or shut up we're trying to keep this LOOTocracy a secret?Echo said:
I think both.Westy said:
N8 isn't are far right as you would like to paint him, libertarian fits better I think..
Know what i think is great about this whole mess?
I live in Canada, where our leader is incompetent, but no one listens to him anyways.
I live in Canada, where our leader is incompetent, but no one listens to him anyways.
Bwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!!!!!!111one11!!1!!!!!!!!!Slugman said:
Interesting................please cite some examples..........................Slugman said:
I can think of a few.Andyman_1970 said:
I mean, whenever he came upon that chick about the be stoned, he was like "Naw, dont kill the b!tch" so he may be against the death penalty, as he's all about some forgiveness.
Dude asked a legitimate question, and did it politely without flaming or insults. Plus, he didn't ask you. So if you don't have any useful info why do you feel the need to pipe up?Changleen said:
How is that relevant to the statement that Jesus was a VERY left liberal (by today's standards I assuem)?Changleen said:
Who do you think I voted for?