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RAD [s]DADS[/s] KIDS: Flat pedals - What's available that's actually good for kids?

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  1. Gary

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    By good I mean Aluminiun body, decent pin placement (but not huge pins) and a nice concave shape with no daft fancy aesthetics that make them functionally worse. (eg. all those pedals with a butterfly shape to the outer edge.
    You know. Something that just works well. But for a smaller foot size (2/3).
    The HTs I use myself would be perfect if they were available in a slightly smaller size

     
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    Cromag Radar is very nice. Spank also makes a good option as I recall. For my 4 year old I removed the pins and added grip tape. Works for him.
     
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    Gary "S" is for "neo-luddite"

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    Thanks. (especially for the grip tape idea)

    Radars look decent! Do they have much in the way of a proper concave shape to the body? (Hard to tell from the pics).
    Those Spanks have a bigger platform than the HTs in the pic above that I use on all of MY bikes and i think I might already have a brand new pair of the HTs somewhere.

    Keep 'em coming though.
     
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    I've only seen a couple of sets but from memory they are a little bit concave. They are tiny, tiny little pedals though so there's a limit to how concave they can really be too.
     
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    Seen them on Ebay very cheap. They look like they might actually be convex.
    [EDIT] for anyone else interested Wellgo KC008 seem to be the same product. [/]

    Thing is... there's actually MOAR scope to build a kids pedal properly concave than an adults.
    Just that you can't graduate Dentist School until 21yers old so there's not much of a market for them.
    :(

    They're so cheap I'll just order a set. but am still looking. If she wants the Chromags it'll be a Christmas present. £60 on kids pedals is insane! (it's insane for adult pedals too BTW)
     
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    Tioga Surefoot 8 are narrow but only the pins make them concave.
    CB Stamp
    Xpedo Traverse

    I am not sure if they are good (only own the Tioga's) but have seen these on kid's bikes before.
     
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    for REF:

    I (with size 10 feet) ride the pedals in the OP
    Those pedals are
    95 x 95
     
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    My kiddo had these from age 7-9 on his BMX race bike & trail bike now - he never slipped a foot, medium size and weight pedal. Get the VP ones and not the rebadged Answer mini BMX ones - said brand jacked up the price 20 'Murican duckets for rebadge.



    EDIT: name is VP-001 pedal.
     
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    My kids have ridden regular size pedals since they could ride. Both are 6 and 9 presently. Why do you think you need a "kid" specific pedal. Seems like nothing more than marketing.
     
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    True, but it might depend on foot size. My 10 year old is now almost hitting an 8 shoe size and is rocking DMR Vaults.

    EDIT: 10, not 19!
     
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    Yeah. you're right. What was I thinking buying my children kid sized clothes, shoes and bikes?



    fucking "Marketing"
     
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    You being sarcastic?
     
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    @Jim Mac Those pedals are bigger, less concave and much more expensive than the HTs. But cheers.
    Your post made me take a look at what VP currently do
     
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    no


    ;)
     
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    ^^^^ Explain how that is even close to having them use regular sized pedals?


    Age 6, standard Specialized flat pedals...



    Age 9, standard Specialized pedals...
     
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    *sigh*

    if I have to explain...

    :drag:
     
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    Oh, you have no explanation. OK.
     
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    BMXs.jpg Hers is the smaller bike of the two

    Her feet are pretty much half the size of mine.

    Do I really need to explain how a decent flat pedal works ?

    :lazy:
     
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    Lesson #1 Throw away your sticky rubber soled shoes

    Tune in next week for lesson #2 in this entralling series.
     
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    Yeah who needs those for true bikes. They would get worn down in no time

     
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    Big feet = RAD!
     
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    Gary to be serious I remember Xpedo, Mortop or one of those Taiwanese companies had a very light (sub 300g maybe close to 200) pedal that achieved this weight thanks to having a very small platform which pissed a lot people off (who likes reading product descriptions anyway) but may fit your needs. Look through the catalog companies products since I doubt it has been phased out.
     
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    https://www.hibike.com/xpedo-spry-p...ionID=E665a81f4d16455e9d5ef1c64f64bc6ff&yafeh
     
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    Those seem big. There was something with a sub 100mm platform. Might not have been xpedo, those tw companies are soo similar

    btw. Dartmoor Stream pedals are 90x95mm. Pretty sure this is a catalog product. NS Aerial non pro version is 95x95mm.

    I also remember tioga surefoot 8 being narrow but I may be wrong here
     
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    Thanks guys.
    There are plenty 95x95 or 100mm pedals. it's the size I prefer to use myself and not an issue in the slightest finding something that size.

    She used a set of my pedals on friday night for BMX gate practice.

    These:



    They're 110x107 (So way bigger than I'm looking for but just happened to be what I had to hand before we left).
    it was damp/frosty and she loved the grip compared to her old cast Alu Haro pedals but said to me they were too big.
    when I looked, her feet didn't even cover the 4 outer pins. probably 30-40mm of pedal each side sticking out past her soles.

    The cheap Welgos I've ordered are listed as 70x70 so should be pretty much spot on. I'll update when she's ridden them.
     
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    My brainfart ended thanks to your post. Those tiny pedals were SARS:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/SARS-Kooka...hash=item3d3ef96b3c:m:mkTr9e5Vi22i43twELSIL1A

    Not 70x70 but 74x88 is still rather small.
     
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    Thanks @norbar

    Like I said tho. I'm really not a fan of weird butterfly shaped pedals. I know I know... they're not for me... But I just can't see how anything but a straight(ish) uninterupted outer edge on a pedal is useful. (I do roll my feet over that edge though and realise many riders never do that)
    Your Ebay link included a "people who viewed this item also viewed" at the bottom and it threw up these:

    MAXmini
    Body: CNC Alloy
    Axle: Cr-Mo Axle double bearings with quincuncial pins
    Size: 86 x 70 x 15 mm
    Weight: 245g (±10%)



    She'd kill me if I got her them in pink but luckily the "people who viewed..." thingy shows optional colours are available too.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIVIMAX-MAX-mini-MTB-Mountain-Road-Bike-Bicycle-9-16-Alloy-Pedals-Red/191793645530?_trkparms=aid=555018&algo=PL.SIM&ao=2&asc=49131&meid=a0fe7f3c4026428fbb80b6a49c5e9ed3&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=201513095073&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m2219



    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIVIMAX-MAX-mini-MTB-Mountain-Road-Bike-Bicycle-9-16-Alloy-Pedals-Black/201513094154?_trkparms=aid=555018&algo=PL.SIM&ao=2&asc=49131&meid=0a8a8da5509642b6937d0ccde38b7377&pid=100005&rk=3&rkt=6&sd=191793645530&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m2219

     
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    Pedals arrived. seem well made.
     
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    Lesson #2

    This lesson is brought to you by an 8 year old girl

    "Daaad?" "These pedals are great"
    "they're a much better size"
    "I can feel where my foot is on the pedal now"

    This lesson comes with pics for the hard of understanding


    Size UK10/UK2 (+1 in 'mercan)
     
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