cool thanks guy...just makeing doubly sure
so who has their names on an EVIL DOC ???
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- Start date
Oh man, I wish I brought my camera. Talk about a high end factory, the DOCs were on the line right near some serious french road bikes. I'll tell you what, the welds on these frames are just unbelievable. I have never seen steel work like this before. Once we get production bikes here (there are a few in the air right now actually) I will take some weld closeups to show you what I mean. They are just plain sexy.
I wanna know why you are posting on RM At 4:50 a.m.?dw said:
Were you:
1. in a foreign country?
2. Just getting in from a wild night out in Beantown
3. having a case of insomnia
4. having a brainstorm idea for the next great e-thirteen/evil product, or
5. are you just a super early riser?
4:50 a.m. ugh.
HahahMMcG said:I wanna know why you are posting on RM At 4:50 a.m.?
Were you:
1. in a foreign country?
2. Just getting in from a wild night out in Beantown
3. having a case of insomnia
4. having a brainstorm idea for the next great e-thirteen/evil product, or
5. are you just a super early riser?
4:50 a.m. ugh.
I couldnt sleep becuase I kept thinking about a project that I have been working on and my brain wouldnt stop thinking, so I got up at 3:30 and got a head start on the day. Had all my e-mail done by 5:30, and thats pretty damn good for me!
Dave
Hey DW -
How is Sovereign production coming?
-r
How is Sovereign production coming?
-r
Very nicely actually, I dont have the exact date on delivery, but we expect them before the winter is through. Jonas at the Evil office has been spearheading this project, and I just got the lowdown from him. We should know a lot more later today if Jonas gets a hold of the right people.
Dave
Dave
Wow, what a read! I'm afraid of a Lit. quiz at the end of the thread now.tmx said:
Surely there's room for you fair Mercutio.
Always said you had a silver tounge, or is it chrome?
-BTW Just found myself a nice pre-enjoyed Green Imp, in the basement labratory now
tmx said:HAHA! Nice...especially with the SFX of the hostile crowd.
I sense the clique, the fear of the unknown leaving a desire for segregation. The Montagues, the Capulets, the disdain for my presence (the smell of my own burning flesh gave clue to the latter). But when Sir Weags peeked in on the ""other"" thread, I was quick to welcome him and answer his inquiry. Doth this maketh me a witch? Wons't thou see me for the person I art, not the biketh I rideth? Burn me for wanting to shareth the joy of superior east coast manufacturing of all makes and models?? Surely you must know the Imperial remaineth one of my favorite hardtails of it's kind. Doth all this not speaketh of the peace I seek to bring to thee, Evilians? That we shall stand from the mountain top in unity and proclaim in kindred spirit, "See you at the bottom!" What say ye now Sir Binary? Won't thou grantest me respit from this charring?
edit: Ah, a friendly voice. Hello Mark. (Careful extending yourself to me within the confines of this Evil thread, they may try to fry you right along with me.) DC's are over-rated and there is no side darker than that of Evil, so you're in the right place.
hahaha
how did I miss this before!!
T youre the best!
Everyone in the know is up on the fact that the Evils love our Brooklyn brethren and sistren since day one (is sistren even a word??!)
dw
hey d-dub,
what is the max fork length on this bad boy? could you mount a dual crown on it? if so, are you recomending a max travel? i searched the thread for "dual crown" and skimmed it before asking the question, but did not see anything.
thanks
ad3m
what is the max fork length on this bad boy? could you mount a dual crown on it? if so, are you recomending a max travel? i searched the thread for "dual crown" and skimmed it before asking the question, but did not see anything.
thanks
ad3m
This bike was really not designed for a dual crown fork. It should be able to handle it strength wise but the head angle will get ridiculously slack the higher travel fork you use. I personally would not recomend going over 150mm. That will give you a 66 degree HA.mandown said:
thanks for the tip. i figured that handling would be odd w/ a big dual crown. however, i know it won't be long before somebody tries it. i am in the market for a new hardtail. being able to mount a dual crown is not a deal breaker, but i would like to know if the option exists on the odd chance that i get a wild hair up my a$$ to slap my shiver on the frame.heikkihall said:
riding it w/ a shiver would not be my main set up, but i might do it once in a while as a goof. i need something more oriented to trail riding, hence the DOC. at 6'1" i would not get enough seat extension to pedal uphill in a comfortable position on an imperial. i already have a 13" norco frame that i love, except for seated pedaling. i have done the math on the DOC and it looks like i would be in ok shape for leg extension. don't tell me to look for an XC frame now either. i don't intend to pedal this thing in any XC races or do any all-day-epic climbs either. i would just like to have a bike that i can urban and jump, but still ride up a trail without having my knees in my chest.the Inbred said:
also considering a 16" morphine or a 17" scirocco. i also like a handful of other frames as well, but i keep heading back to the DOC. i want the big tire clearance in the back. about a 23" top tube and about a 16" seat tube.
does anyone know what size seatpost the DOC is going to take?!?!
All Evil frames use a 31.6 mm post (except some of the older Imperials).
I cant get full leg extension on most Large XC frames. At 6'2" with a 34" inseam I have a hard time trying to get the right fit on XC bikes. I either have to buy a longer aftermarket post or run the existing post above the minimum insertion mark. I cant expect to get anywhere near full extension on a bike thats main purpose is street, park, and dirt jumping.
31.6manhattanprjkt83 said:
it is right on their website, under "the story"
http://evilbikes.com/doc/doc.htm
410mm - seatpost
(127)mm - less 5" of insertion (he he)
393mm - 15.5" of seat tube
170mm - cranks
= 846mm of leg extension (approx 33")
Thanks brotherE13Tech said:
Add another 40-75mm or so to that to accommodate the "stack height" of your seat itself. So say around 35" max. That's a pretty tall guy riding a rather short seat tube. *Raises hand*. I run 37" on my both my city riding, non aggressive bikes. I'm thinking 35" will be just about perfect for aggressive XC riding - but whether a fully-extended, extra-long Thomson can withstand 230 pounds will be interesting (but hopefully not painful!)! The long TT is in range of "proper sized" XC bikes for me. Looks like a truly versatile ride. Pretty much everything I unsuccessfully tried to squeeze out of my beloved Imperial. I'm excited!mandown said:
I just put myself on the list
I am soooo stoked. It will be my street/dj/XC bike. It shall be sweet.
I am soooo stoked. It will be my street/dj/XC bike. It shall be sweet.
..Because you are worth that much more effort Beev. Thanks for calling off the witch hunt.binary visions said:Not to mention, I think much more effort went into that Shakesperian reply than into my brief Monty Python quote
Miss TMX, as an Imperial owner myself and a frequent visitor to your Brooklyn thread, I would hope that you are as welcome in both places as I feel
Fear not aSassinator, no quiz at the end of the thread because there will be no end to this thread. (Though it seems that Inbred might have some grading of his own going on.)PDADDY said:Wow, what a read! I'm afraid of a Lit. quiz at the end of the thread now.
Surely there's room for you fair Mercutio.
Always said you had a silver tounge, or is it chrome?
-BTW Just found myself a nice pre-enjoyed Green Imp, in the basement labratory now
That's not Chassy's Imperial you aquired, is it Pistachio?
Sistren, biketh, rideth....they're all words now. : )dw said:
No no, the Humble Bee is still safe and warm in the hive. No way I'd be able to pry that away!tmx said:
And yes she is Pistachio, since I know it's one of your favorites :love:
I plan to dress it up with a Champange colored fork next and maybe some Caviar endcaps but I fear yet again you've seen through my thinly vieled attempts to lure you into visiting Beanville
neaky: .......did it work???
don't forget to shave off a few mm for pedal thickness and for shoe/sock thickness, as well as add back for underwear and bike short thickness (a bit extra if you have a pair with the diaper padding). ahh screw it, it is close enough for government standards.Bulldog said:
:dancing:
So does anyone have any updates on shipping information?!? had to ride rays yesterday on my ruckas frame :angry:...help
All I know is .... I'm not going to get the DOC. 
Something else came up that will take my $ :angry:
Something else came up that will take my $ :angry:
*******update*******
I just talked to john at evil a few minutes ago. This is what he told me: All dealers that ordered 2 or more frames will DEFINATLEY get them on the first production run, and it looks like as of now that all the people currently on the waiting list will indeed get frames durning the first run. Not %100 but close.
The bad news is that shipping dates got pushed back til early to mid Feb. Because of some hang up....
Hope this helps some people.
I just talked to john at evil a few minutes ago. This is what he told me: All dealers that ordered 2 or more frames will DEFINATLEY get them on the first production run, and it looks like as of now that all the people currently on the waiting list will indeed get frames durning the first run. Not %100 but close.
The bad news is that shipping dates got pushed back til early to mid Feb. Because of some hang up....
Hope this helps some people.
manhattanprjkt83 said:
NO! it completely bums me out!!!
I've been "tied off" and waiting for my drug of choice for months - sweating, shaking, that feeling like a cold wind is blowing through your bones....I NEED my DOC!
I am totally with you brother.Macrider said:
manhattanprjkt83 said:
Im ok with this it gives me time to build up the new DH rig..but I feel for the rest of you...it will just make it htat much better when we all get them... this will be a good bike year......new DH rig and new hardtail....Why did I not like hardtails until now..I have no clue!
I don't think i can wait any longer!!!!!!!! I NEED my D.O.C.
man i feel like i am bringing down the moral on the board. sorry 
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What'd he say? Link or quote, please...
-r
-r
the Inbred said:
I wouldnt get too amped up just yet, I mean, the bikes are done, I have personally seen them, I know the guys in the Evil office are just being cautious because they dont want to over promise. It takes a while to ship out every frame once they are in the warehouse. Some people will have frames sooner than others I would bet. Guys who are stocking dealers like Unreal Cycles, Go-Ride, Belmont Wheelworks etc... order multiple frames, and placed orders early, so they will get frames in stock first. Actual dates, I dont know, but seeing as the frames are completed, boxed, and shipping, I cant see it being too long of a wait.
Dave
Dave