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BurlyShirley

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Ohio wants special car plates for sex offenders
Wed Feb 28, 3:20 PM ET
CINCINNATI (Reuters) - Lawmakers in Ohio said on Wednesday they want to force convicted sex offenders to use a fluorescent-green license plate on their cars so they can be easily identified.



A Republican and a Democrat in the state legislature in Columbus have joined forces to propose the law, which echoes measures in several U.S. states that require convicted drunken drivers to use a yellow, pink or red plate on their cars.

"The fluorescent-green license plate will make the most egregious sex offenders easily identifiable," state Democratic Rep. Michael DeBose said in a statement.

Police said the green plates would allow them to track sex offenders, who are already required to register with the local sheriff's office and are prohibited from living within 1,000 feet of a school.

"It will give Ohio families a great peace of mind knowing that their children will be able to recognize where this danger exists," Summit County Sheriff Drew Alexander said.

Alexander joined the politicians at a news conference in Columbus, the state capital, to praise the proposed law.

Opponents of the proposed law argue the use of a special plate would stigmatize everyone who shared the offender's car -- including their spouse or children.

The proposed law will be debated in committee before a decision is made whether to put the proposal to a vote.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
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This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.
 

N8 v2.0

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This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.

cool.... they should just kill themselves then
 

BurlyShirley

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This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.
On one hand I can see how it would suck for them....on the other hand, who cares? I hope they get beat down and raped every day by rednecks.
 

GumbaFish

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This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.
If you are a sexual offender against children you dont deserve a spot in society anyways, cry me a river if they have to use different plates for their cars.
 

Silver

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If you are a sexual offender against children you dont deserve a spot in society anyways, cry me a river if they have to use different plates for their cars.
Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...
 

sanjuro

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Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...
Guess how the sex offender gets to and from the park or the schoolyard?

I do like the drunken driver plates. Gives law enforcement a warning sign...
 

GumbaFish

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Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...
Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:
 

Toshi

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Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:
how about making them wear a yellow star on their clothing?
 

$tinkle

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This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.
really have nothing to add ('cept for eProps to reflux), but i'm still trying to figure out how a plate would make someone unemployable where the conviction by itself would not.

make sense to me that if an offender opted out of constant treatment they should get the plate, if for no other reason the public would know the lines have been drawn, and the offender has proclaimed himself an enemy of society - the very definition of a predator.
 

Silver

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if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself.
And suppose Joe happens to have a kid, and he has to pick him up from school one day because mom is sick?

Congrats, you've just totally screwed up a child for life.
 

$tinkle

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Congrats, you've just totally screwed up a child for life.
yeah, because he had a normal life to begin with.

i'm sorry, are we feeling sorry for pedophiles now? make no mistake, i do take a dash of pity, but it doesn't come at the expense of making them into some sort of new victim class.

but then again, i'm just a heartless freeper (is there any other kind?)
 

GumbaFish

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A.) Comparing making sex offenders have a different colored plate to the holocaust is ridiculous and only takes away from the severity of those events.

B.) When sex offenders move into an area they already have to notify schools and police departments. You don't think that information will be privy to the community? You think their child won't already know what their father did?

C.) You can search for sex offenders online and it gives you their name and address. Its not like this is some kind of super classified information.

D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.
 

reflux

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IF I were a convicted sex offender and had a special license plate, I'd never drive the car that I owned and registered. I would go out of my way to borrow a car from my friends and family. Issuing special license plates solves nothing, as perps would still find a way go about their business undetected. Face tats otoh...smokin idea.
 

GumbaFish

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Fine, then explain to me how assigning them such a plate in any way is a bad idea? While it may or may not prevent crimes could it really hurt? A conviction alone will already be available to potential employers, I dont understand the harm in giving them a different colored plate.
 

Echo

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I'm with the "let them kill themselves" crew.

I seriously don't see how a green license plate is going to solve anything.

If anything, as soon as you start telling kids to avoid cars with green license plates, you dilute the "don't get in cars with strangers" rule.

And as mentioned earlier in this thread, all a pedophile who really wants to commit a crime needs to do is steal a license plate or rent a car.

This proposal is a weak ass cry for attention by a politician who wants his 15 minutes.
 

$tinkle

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am i the only one here who realizes the instant the plate is affixed, the car will be torched like it was in a paris suburb?

and how come silver hasn't recommended priestly garbs instead of a plate?
 

i-ride

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A.) Comparing making sex offenders have a different colored plate to the holocaust is ridiculous and only takes away from the severity of those events.
I don't think Toshi's comment was that far of a stretch. When people talk about 'they should just kill themselves', 'they should be raped' and maimed, and 'they have no place in our society'...coupled with the fact that it's an illness (ie not just something over which a person, without appropriate support and treatment, has control)... one could draw a parallel.

Anyway, none of this addresses epidemiology. License plates (or any other type of branding) will do nothing to prevent new offenses from new offenders. While FIRSTLY taking all reasonable precautions with regard to our children and others, we need to treat the underlying illness.
 

GumbaFish

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My thing is I am not really in favor of the law, I am just more ticked off at all the people here that are preaching for the inconviences it might cause a sexual offender. If they don't pass it I could care less, but if they do I just don't want to hear a bunch of felons crying about their rights.
 

i-ride

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Fine, then explain to me how assigning them such a plate in any way is a bad idea? While it may or may not prevent crimes could it really hurt? A conviction alone will already be available to potential employers, I dont understand the harm in giving them a different colored plate.
It's a waste of money that could be going toward other protective measures or offender rehabilitation. It also heavily stigmatizes and will elicit massive hate crimes, as previous poster noted.
 

Echo

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My thing is I am not really in favor of the law, I am just more ticked off at all the people here that are preaching for the inconviences it might cause a sexual offender. If they don't pass it I could care less, but if they do I just don't want to hear a bunch of felons crying about their rights.
It's not about rights, it's about common sense. You might as well just pass a law that says they can't own cars, since any car with a green license plate is going to get trashed. Next let's make them paint their houses fluorescent orange, that will save the children too.

Kill them, let them rot in jail, whatever, but don't f*cking spend my tax dollars harrassing them after they've served their sentence. They register with the local police, that should be the end of it. If they repeat the crime then nail them to the wall. There are a million things you could do to convicted pedophiles to make them stand out in society. Show me a study that proves any of this crap makes little Joey safer.
 

ohio

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B.) When sex offenders move into an area they already have to notify schools and police departments. You don't think that information will be privy to the community? You think their child won't already know what their father did?
Yes, schools and police departments... the ones that need to know. Look, I'm all for letting sex offenders rot in prison for life, but if we let them out, we have to make them productive. If the person is safe enough to be let out of prison, they need to be able to attempt a normal life with regular check-ins with the law and constant treatment. If you're going to give them the plate, you're better off just keeping them in prison.


C.) You can search for sex offenders online and it gives you their name and address. Its not like this is some kind of super classified information.
Again, you can access it if you choose to, but you have to actively seek it. Many parents probably will and they should. Most employers won't. This is not the same thing as a scarlet letter.

D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.
This is exactly why this will probably be put into law. Because it's obvious from the side of the argument I've chosen that I want little girls to be molested. By the way, look up the statistics of how many of those offences are from family or a family friend. This plate won't help that one bit.

I know we all like the idea of a drunken mob beating up a sex offender every day of his life because they see the plate, but that is NOT the way our society functions. Daily beatings should only happen in prison.
 

i-ride

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How much money does it really cost to make different colored plates...considering plates are made by people in prison.
Any amt of money would still be a waste of money.. But i believe it's also a waste of policy-makers time/energy/money. Lastly, i believe many of the proponents of this kind of response need to channel their anger more positively. For example, see this thread. My thoughts.
 

GumbaFish

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Now see the fact that their cars might get trashed or hate crimes commited is a good arguement against it. Too bad we dont have something like siberia, a couple years hard labor with tigers trying to eat you would probably set any man straight.
 

syadasti

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It's not about rights, it's about common sense. You might as well just pass a law that says they can't own cars, since any car with a green license plate is going to get trashed. Next let's make them paint their houses fluorescent orange, that will save the children too.

Kill them, let them rot in jail, whatever, but don't f*cking spend my tax dollars harrassing them after they've served their sentence. They register with the local police, that should be the end of it. If they repeat the crime then nail them to the wall. There are a million things you could do to convicted pedophiles to make them stand out in society. Show me a study that proves any of this crap makes little Joey safer.
Exactly :clapping:

The license plate idea is just some BS for a politician to get his 15 minutes and give job public a false sense of security.

This is like the Sarbanes Oxley Act, another brilliant BS piece of legislation to make it seem like politicians are fighting corporate corruption. What it really is is a great waste of taxpayer money and business IT budgets. Any criminal with half a brain is not going to use company IS systems to commit a crime just like people don't surf porn and other objectionable websites at work unless they want to get caught/fired.
 

Secret Squirrel

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Exactly :clapping:

The license plate idea is just some BS for a politician to get his 15 minutes and give job public a false sense of security.

This is like the Sarbanes Oxley Act, another brilliant BS piece of legislation to make it seem like politicians are fighting corporate corruption. What it really is is a great waste of taxpayer money and business IT budgets. Any criminal with half a brain is not going to use company IS systems to commit a crime just like people don't surf porn and other objectionable websites at work unless they want to get caught/fired.
Sarbanes Oxley needs to die. With regular posthumous beatings.

GumbaFish said:
D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.
Along the same lines... "You're either with us or you're against us."
 

Echo

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Reminds me of a local story here a few months ago.

This rapist dude from California completed his 30 year sentence like 10 years ago and tried to go to his home in CA. The community made a big stink and drove him out of town. He tried moving somewhere else and they wouldn't take him either. CA state officials looked everywhere to try and find him a place to live but everywhere they asked, some politician or newspaper made a stink.

Finally a monestary in upstate NY agreed to take him in and give this 60-something year old dude a job (Silver - there's your cue). For 10 years, he worked hard making bread, earned his money, never left the monestary, basically lived a peaceful and productive life.

Then a local TV station somehow found out that he was there, now aged over 70 years old. They ran a huge story about it. The whole community around the monestary went into a hissy fit. Politicians whined "how could this happen?!". Big huge f*cking production over this dude, when he was just trying to live out his last years in complete privacy.

Oh and he didn't own a car.