TheMontashu said:hmm shimano has ALOT of chainstay slap that sram shifts crisper and is ALOT BIGGER of a company
New trigger shifters from sram. Best system out there in my opinion. Try and break the plastic on an X.0 derailleur. It's tougher than you think.oldfart said:SRAM still uses too much plastic for their derailleurs for my tastes. I do think the grip shift shifts more quickly but the ergonomics don't work well for my short fingers and you cannot brake and shift at the same time. Shimano works very well too. Don't listen to theMontashu. He has a hate on for Shimano.
Have you heard of the sport of fishing?TheMontashu said:ummm sram owns rock shocks and avid sram is for sure bigger
But they all do it.You can't use any of the SRAM 1:1 ratio shifters and derailleurs with anything but SRAM derailleurs. Campy and Shimano road shifters and derailleurs are not cross compatible either. You can sort of fudge stuff to work but what's the point. We have numerous stem handlebar clamp sizes and steer tube sizes. Different disc mount standards. Different rotor sizes and pads are all specific to each brake. V brakes use different levers than canti's.SpecTJ said:Sram is also made in the USA (last I heard anyway) and Shimano is not. I also hate how Shimano developes new technology but then makes it incompatible with anything currently on the market and forces you to upgrade with nothing but Shimano components.
Magura uses mineral oil too. And you can't mix and match any disc levers with other makes of caliper as far as I know. Dt Swiss make center lock hubs and others will follow because it is a way better attachment than 6 bolts. And Shimano's bolt on rotors work with their new calipers anyway.dante said:err, making a 1-1 (and a 2-1 shimano-type as well) shifter/der is one thing. making integrated brake levers with the shifting, using mineral fluid (as opposed to DOT which everyone else uses) for hydros so you can't mix/match brakes/levers, only shipping disc brakes with splined rotors that only fit (new) shimano hubs is something else.
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theMontashu just likes to talk out of his ass. here he is now...erikkellison said:I like how you all disproved theMontashu's idea regarding Sram as a bigger company than Shimano, and instead of admitting wrong, he moves onto another topic that he knows nothing about. But I've already wasted too much space on him.
Dude, you don't even own anything SRAM. And what's wrong with the Shimano stuff on your bikes? Your bikes shift when you want them to, don't they? Where's all this anti-Shimano sentiment coming from? Quit sipping on the Haterade bro.TheMontashu said:lol i jest dont like shimano you guys are right they are bigger but sram does more for biking and i have good reson for not liking shimano
Really? Did you get any on you?TheMontashu said:AHAHAHAHAHAHA you didnt see the front shifter that came on that bike 2 rides on it AND IT BLEW UP
SRAM does more for biking? WTF does that mean? Like coming out with huge innovations, providing race support and selling popular, cheap, functional products? Things that Shimano does all the time? Please.TheMontashu said:lol i jest dont like shimano you guys are right they are bigger but sram does more for biking and i have good reson for not liking shimano
SHIMANO ALSO MAKES ALL OF THE COMPONENTS ON CHEAP BIKES (70% of market)TheMontashu said:ummm sram owns rock shocks and avid sram is for sure bigger
Sram don't have a pivot because the design does not need it. Shimano can only get the chain a few mm closer to the sprocket anyway as that is how close sram mechs keep the chain. Also unless you ride on tarmac the shimano mech is going to be bouncing all over the place and on average could be further away that the sram mech.Jeff 151 said:Andy B:What your SRAM propoganda video does not mention are the benefits of the Shimano design. By having that part of the derailleur pivot with counter-clockwise spring-tension, the Shimano derailleur maintains maximum chain wrap. This means there's more chain links in contact with more teeth of the cassette cog, in every gear. Drivetrain load is dispearsed over more surface area. Result: Chain and cassette are less strained and don't wear out as quickly. You are more likely to break a chain on a SRAM rr derailleur! Another benefit of the design, is that the Shimano derailleur maintains a little more tension on the chain which lessens the chances for chainsuck or deraillment.