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I was on a Mk1 until July, spent about a month on it in Whistler plus 8 months at home in Aus. Basically it rode awesome and was super planted, but yeah the bushings basically didn't work as planned. Somehow the plastic IGUS bushings managed to significantly wear into all the alloy pivot axles (and even scored the stainless main pivot!), I think they're just too much hassle for a DH bike. You probably could make it work with different materials and coatings and whatnot, but the tolerances have to be SUPER tight in order that there's no play but also low friction. Not an impossible task but IMO an impractical one for a DH bike. Bearings are just so much easier to get right, even though they are heavier and probably slightly less stiff.Those bikes look cool and everyone seems to be happy. I think it was a good call to go to bearings. Good work fellas!
Socket: Have you been riding the Mk1? How did you get along with the bushings?
Yeah that huge 1pc forging is nuts hey! That was a two piece welded part on the Mk1. The links in particular look freakin awesome.I love my Mk1 (especially now that I've got the suspension dialled) and have got a Mk2 on the way, wouldn't have anything else. And somehow it's just gotten sexier with the forgings. Going to look awesome in ano.
That forging that connects the BB to the seat tube - how did they do that? I don't know much about forging, but that looks pretty tricky.
Just wondering, is anyone else out there doing Ti hardware as standard equipment?
polished + red ano links =Getting closer! The next blog post should be of a fully painted, complete Legend MkII build. Get stoked! http://bansheebikes.blogspot.com/
Brand image creation.ok something that irks me that I want to point out:
3 color full coverage printing on a bike box? why in the world was that deemed necessary?
unless you are talking about another different photo of a box, I only see one colour print, varying shades of black...ok something that irks me that I want to point out:
3 color full coverage printing on a bike box? why in the world was that deemed necessary?
gray, white and black. yep, 1 color.unless you are talking about another different photo of a box, I only see one colour print, varying shades of black...
Yea, but generally the way the manufacturer of the box will break down the pricing and the color profile and printing process being used, it'll count as 3 colors, or 2 at the bare minimum (you can't make white ink from black ink).unless you are talking about another different photo of a box, I only see one colour print, varying shades of black...
so hows the packaging business going for you?dude its black print on white card, I'll concede having the gloss white card is more expensive than regular natural card board, but in no way is there more than one colour ink being printed.
Dude, I do this for a living. At my last job I was on the phone with Hong Kong and China on a pretty much daily basis haggling over this kind of stuff.dude its black print on white card, I'll concede having the gloss white card is more expensive than regular natural card board, but in no way is there more than one colour ink being printed.
No, but Liz did come home from a business trip!Jon,
did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
Yea, generally that's the case. You cost reduce the hell out of it. Which is why I'm kinda confused about the Banshee box. Not that I think its ugly, I'm just realistic about it.Last time ordered print material the way it worked was you choose your card material (board/corrugated/flutes/finish etc), and then you chose your colour range, since packaging is an essential bit that just gets thrown away, it was always a single colour, black, you pay for one plate and thats it, even if the box is white.
Flexography is by and far the most common way corrugate is printed in the packaging industry. To use any other method you need to be printing on microflute. And with this package, that HAS to be a 3 color process, because with Flexo each color is applied individually by roller from its own ink well.Maybe its not a screen but a lytho laminate, but that would be more crazier
Anyway man, not trying to rock boats lol, just had a fair bit of experience with printing, maybe not box printing, but when I see a mono tone print and someone says its 3 colour process, I get confused lol.
The way corrugate is made, there are limitations to the materials you can use for the outer layers. Its hard to use a paper that has a extremely high print quality. To get a gloss (not common on corrugate) or semi-gloss finish you either need an overcoat, or an ink that is formulated with the finish you want (kind like painting drywall).Or are you talking about some sort of over coat/varnish?
this is why i keep reading the ridemonkey. you enter a forum about banshee bikes and learn a whole bunch of interesting stuff about cardboard packaging and bike boxes.
haha sorry for the derail. I have the bad tendency of nerding out a LOT when it comes to packaging!this is why i keep reading the ridemonkey. you enter a forum about banshee bikes and learn a whole bunch of interesting stuff about cardboard packaging and bike boxes.
Naah it was a good read and it was kinda funny to see you be serious for the first time on rm about something as absurd as boxes Sounds like a cool job btw.haha sorry for the derail. I have the bad tendency of nerding out a LOT when it comes to packaging!
that being said, its nothing against Banshee. I think the Legend looks awesome (haven't gotten anything more than a parking lot test on it unfortunately)!
LOL! i still deal with boxes, just not as much. Now I deal more with foil, polymer/foil laminate pouches and tyvek and sterilization processes. And thankfully no more dealing with China (for now). Instead I get to deal with Germany, Switzerland, and Israel (at least for the projects I'm on).Naah it was a good read and it was kinda funny to see you be serious for the first time on rm about something as absurd as boxes Sounds like a cool job btw.
What other kind of testing is there?I think the Legend looks awesome (haven't gotten anything more than a parking lot test on it unfortunately)!
I've heard of something called "on trail testing" but I think that it only exists in an alternate dimension.What other kind of testing is there?
werd. this is the interweb and parking lot testing is perfectly acceptable. e-speculating and arm chair engineering are even better.I've heard of something called "on trail testing" but I think that it only exists in an alternate dimension.
You mean the real life? Do you belive in santa too?I've heard of something called "on trail testing" but I think that it only exists in an alternate dimension.
can someone please merge the image of the banshee box with a 64deg HA box for comparison? i prefer my boxes long, low and slack.Anyway back to the important stuff - anyone know the head angle of that box? Looks kinda steep but it's not side on in that pic...
Me, Santa, and the Easter Bunny are all tight. We're gonna be on the next season of Jersey Shore. Fist pump!!You mean the real life? Do you belive in santa too?
That's possible, but would also probably be MORE expensive than a 3c flexo print op.I may be looking at this wrong, and have no experience in packaging design...but couldn't that just be a sheet of cardstock wrapped around and glued/stapled to a plain cardboard frame box? Thusly removing the intricacies of printing on cardboard out of the equation?
The only reason I even brought up the printing because in all my years (including time spent working as a mechanic) I have NEVER seen this much or quality printing on a frame box. They're generally small runs (especially for a company like Banshee - no offense guys), and the end consumer only sees it about half the time, and they normally wind up in the recycle bin (or worst case in the trash).
Sounds like a winner to me. Who wouldn't be stoked to get a frame in something other than a worn out same-old-same-old brown box?Jay MacNeil said:Ive even worked on special packaging for this bike because I want whoever decides to buy a Legend MkII to enjoy the whole process of not only buying it but getting it home, opening it up, looking at it for the first time and just getting excited for when they get to build it up and ride it. I will personally be doing 100% inspection on these bikes and its the least I can do to make sure you get something that is completely dialled.