[Kanye West]

Alright, so I figure it's about time I post something of value around here, so this is just going to be a database of ALL the Boxxer stems available, their dimensions, and their adjustments. I am getting lost trying to compare all the stems available today, so this will get them all in one place. I think someone did this on PinkBike a while back when there were only 3 or 4 to choose from. I will update this original post with info as it's submitted later in the thread.

Format will be:

-Manufacturer and stem name (with manufacturers web link if possible)
-Reach:
-Rise:
-Adjustability: (or just state this in the reach/rise sections clearly)
-Clamp width:
-Weight:
-Cost:
-Color options:
-Material/Layout: (2pc, 3pc, or 4pc)

Try to keep it to that format so I can just copy/paste it and it stays easy to read.

Ones I'm aware of off the top of my head: E13, Sunline, Deity, RaceFace, Answer, Twenty6, Canfield

 

[Kanye West]

-RaceFace Atlas FR Direct Mount (http://www.raceface.com/components/stems/atlas/atlas-fr-direct-mount/)
-Reach: 30mm
-Rise: 24mm
-Adjustability: Flip the stem for 50mm reach, 8.5mm rise
-Clamp width: Unknown
-Weight: 142g w/o hardware, 162g w/
-Cost: $95 USD
-Color options: Red, Black, White, Pink
-Material/Layout: 6061, 2pc

-Deity Fantom Direct Mount (http://www.deitycomponents.com/fantom_dm_stem2.htm)
-Reach: 48mm
-Rise: Unknown
-Adjustability: Additional mount for 55mm reach
-Clamp width: 2"
-Weight: 150g (don't know if it includes hardware)
-Cost: $90 USD
-Color options: Red, Black, White
-Material/Layout: 7075 T6, 4pc

-Hope Boxxer Top Crown http://www.hopegb.com/voir_tcbox.html
-Reach: 50mm
-Rise: 0
-Adjustability: None
-Clamp width: 55mm (just over 2")
-Weight: 307g for 40 crown, boxxer will be lighter
-Cost: £135 GBP ($214 USD, 8/2/10)
-Color options: black, red, gunsmoke, blue, gold.
-Material/Layout: 2pc crown/stemplate

-77Designz DM stem http://www.77designz.com/?page_id=20
-Reach: 43mm
-Rise: Unknown
-Adjustability: None
-Clamp width: 62mm
-Weight: 103g with all the hardware
-Cost: 89 Euro ($117 USD, 8/2/10)
-Color options: black ano
-Material/Layout:

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

Good idea. I'll add the idea of listing what material is used for the stems construction. (Like 6000, or 7000 series aluminum.) This seems to be a deciding factor to some people...

 

[Kanye West]

Good point, thanks!

 

[dropmachine]

http://www.dropmachine.com/Feature/direct-mount-stem-preview-a627.html

 

[scottishmark]

Hack, you missed off Funn from your list there.

 

[EastCoaster]

Hope and Chromag as well.

 

[alexhill]

-Hope Boxxer Top Crown http://www.hopegb.com/voir_tcbox.html
-Reach: 50mm
-Rise: 0
-Adjustability: None (or just state this in the reach/rise sections clearly)
-Clamp width: 55mm (just over 2")
-Weight: 307g for 40 crown, boxxer will be lighter
-Cost: £135 GBP
-Color options: black, red, gunsmoke, blue, gold.

 

[norbar]

77Designz DM stem http://www.77designz.com/?page_id=20
-Reach: 43mm
-Rise: Unknown
-Adjustability: None (or just state this in the reach/rise sections clearly)
-Clamp width: 62mm
-Weight: 103g with all the hardware
-Cost: 89 Euro
-Color options: black ano

 

[KleinGuy]

-Funn RSX MKII http://www.funnmtb.com/Stem.htm
-Reach: 45 or 50
-Rise: 30 degrees
-Adjustability: unknown
-Clamp width: unknown
-Weight: 135g
-Cost: $35-75
-Color options: Black or White

 

[zdubyadubya]

Straitline ULTRA Series Straitline 28mm & 50mm Boxxer Direct Mount Stem

-Reach: 28mm or 50mm
-Rise: 25.5mm or 19mm
-Adjustability: moto style, clamp top first, then bottom
-Clamp Width: 2.25"
-Weight: 128g or 138g
-Cost: $115.00
-Color Options: Black, Blue, Ice Blue, Bronze, Ti, Orange, Pink, Red, Red Smoke
-Material: 6061 T6 Aluminum
-Design: Two piece

 

[PhilipW]

We've discontinued our Ali stem for the time being (perhaps indefinitely).
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225631

We're focusing our efforts on other new stuff!

Cheers!
-philip

 

[Bikael Molton]

my E.13 has the perfect rise for my set-up - does anyone know the rise measurement?

 

[toodles]

I know the "Boxxer" standard now fits Boxxers, BOS, Manitou and Fox but does anyone know if Marzocchi have come to the party yet?

 

[bullcrew]

I know the "Boxxer" standard now fits Boxxers, BOS, Manitou and Fox but does anyone know if Marzocchi have come to the party yet?

Not yet they are trying to be fashionably late....

 

[sethimus]

I know the "Boxxer" standard now fits Boxxers, BOS, Manitou and Fox but does anyone know if Marzocchi have come to the party yet?

only with the help of this burgtec crown:

http://www.burgtec.co.uk/products/crowns/burgtec-888-grill/

 

[RayB]

Ridemonkey needs a communal Google Docs account for this sorta thing. Somebody put it in a spreadsheet!!

 

[no skid marks]

-Manufacturer PO1NT Split Second DM http://pointoneracing.com/
-Reach:50mm
-Rise:Site says zero, but I think it's a few mm.
-Adjustability:50mm only
-Clamp width:31.8 or 25.4mm
-Weight:128g with crown bolts, 106g without. This is for Black anno. The Nickel one with Titanium bolts is 113g with crown hardware. A black anno one with the Ti bolts is even less.
-Cost:$119 Black, $149 Nickel with ti bolts.
-Color options:Black or chrome/Nickel
-Material/Layout: 4pc

-Manufacturer Kowa http://www.kowa-ss.co.jp/mtb.html
-Reach:I think 45 or 55mm adjustable.
-Rise:a few mm?
-Adjustability:45-55mm adjustable.
-Clamp width:31.8mm
-Weight:200g
-Cost:$?
-Color options:Black
-Material/Layout: 2pc

Kowa forks also have the Boxxer standard dirrect mount holes.

 

[MinorThreat]

-Syncros Lo-Ball (http://www.syncros.com/stems.htm)
-Reach: 42/47mm
-Rise: Zero
-Adjustability: for reach only
-Clamp width:57mm at base / 60mm faceplate ≈ 2 3/8"
-Weight: 156g (claimed)
-Cost: $91.95 list
-Color options: Gloss black; Matte white w/black faceplate
-Material/Layout: 6061 / 2 pc.

 

[Kanye West]

Ridemonkey needs a communal Google Docs account for this sorta thing. Somebody put it in a spreadsheet!!

I agree. I haven't done the Google docs thing before, but I'll fill out the spreadsheet if someone wants to host it.

 

[captainspauldin]

I agree. I haven't done the Google docs thing before, but I'll fill out the spreadsheet if someone wants to host it.

Yeah, if you wanna email it to me I can take of that, I did the 2010 DH bike geometry chart in google docs(i'll pm u my email).

 

[Kanye West]

I put all the stems I could find into a spreadsheet real quick. It would be useful if manufacturers actually provided a rise measurement for comparison.

This "zero rise" thing is also debatable. I think the only consistent vertical reference plane is the bottom of the stem/top of the crown, so the center of the bar should be measured above that plane.

 

[Uncle Cliffy]

only with the help of this burgtec crown:

http://www.burgtec.co.uk/products/crowns/burgtec-888-grill/

That's pretty sweet. I thought I read somewhere that they were going to adopt the Boxxer standard for 2011. Anyone confirm?

 

[MinorThreat]

. . . I think the only consistent vertical reference plane is the bottom of the stem/top of the crown, so the center of the bar should be measured above that plane.

I disagree. Using your reasoning, an OS (31.8) bar, even if it's dead flat would be considered to have 15.9mm of rise because half the diameter of the bar is above the centerline.

Determining rise for stem purposes should be the relation of the base of the bar to the plane of the stem/top crown.

 

[Kanye West]

I disagree. Using your reasoning, an OS (31.8) bar, even if it's dead flat would be considered to have 15.9mm of rise because half the diameter of the bar is above the centerline.

Determining rise for stem purposes should be the relation of the base of the bar to the plane of the stem/top crown.

Why would you use the outer edge of the bar? Nothing else circular on a bike is measured from the edge. Always from the center. Axle, BB, headtube, seattube.

What if someone is using shims for a 25.4mm bar? The only consistent point of reference for the bars is the center. That's how they measure reach - center of steerer to center of bar. Stands to reason the same reference points would be used for the vertical direction.

 

[5150dhbiker]

Gordon, don't forget about the one I have on my bike. It's the super stealth prototype professional crasher use only model! I could look in my garage and see what's on there but I have not even touched my bike since Sol Vista...hung it up and it'll be there for a while

Good luck on your super sweet quest though.

 

[Kanye West]

Haha as many crashes as you've had on that thing I'd check the bars and stem regularly!

 

[Kanye West]

Quest is to make this new bike as low as physically possible in front, just for the hell of it. Gonna see how low is actually an advantage. Might love it, might hate it.

 

[5150dhbiker]

Haha as many crashes as you've had on that thing I'd check the bars and stem regularly!

Good point

 

[no skid marks]

Quest is to make this new bike as low as physically possible in front, just for the hell of it. Gonna see how low is actually an advantage. Might love it, might hate it.

I wnet stupid low with my Lahar(it had a tiny headtube with integrated headset bearings), I can't recall the height i got, but it was too low.
You could try flipping bars or something, un costly, just to get an idea. Or experiment with a hardtail, so you can get the bars to BB relationship similer.

 

[Kanye West]

What part spec on the front and what was the bar height on it?

 

[captainspauldin]

Aight, got the spreadsheet setup and loaded next to my '10 DH Bike Geo Chart. I did a couple changes from Hack's original doc, just to clean things up a bit. I also added it as a choice on my '10 DH Bike Form, here's the link for the spreadsheet:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgWEXu0UfJqDdFFnQ3JJY2MxSDI3aURZejN0c251OWc&hl=en#gid=20

And for the Live Form:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&waffle=false&forced=true&formkey=dFFnQ3JJY2MxSDI3aURZejN0c251OWc6MA#gid=20

 

[HAB]

Quest is to make this new bike as low as physically possible in front, just for the hell of it. Gonna see how low is actually an advantage. Might love it, might hate it.

Flat bar of choice + Function stem.

 

[bullcrew]

Nice database, twenty6 is 2 peice.
will be nice once its polished up....

 

[captainspauldin]

Added a bunch of stems, I had no idea there were this many Boxxer DM stems out there..

 

[Kanye West]

Flat bar of choice + Function stem.

That thing looks pretty sweet. Can you flip it safely to try a different rise?

 

[HAB]

That thing looks pretty sweet. Can you flip it safely to try a different rise?

I don't think it'll sit that great on the crown upside down, but it can't hurt to email them and ask.

 

[no skid marks]

What part spec on the front and what was the bar height on it?

I can't recall the hight, but I'm fairly certain I mentioned it in the low bar height thread on here.
I had a few different forks, but tried 40s at 7 or 7.5" on the Lahar, so pretty low.

 

[Sandwich]

Bump..

 

[HAB]

You're looking for one? I've got an e.13 in pretty good shape somewhere if you want it.