OK, After all the discussion of which frame is most like this or that and lots of questions about what'smost like this or that, I thought it'd be really nice to have a thread with details of all the frame geometries and details of hardtails, BMXs and cruisers. Basically the idea of the thread is this: To collect posts each containing an image and geometry of as many hardtail Dirtjump, 4X, BMX, cruiser, freeride and street frames as possible. People who ride these sort of bikes are more likely than not to change out parts and forks and everything on their bikes so tyhe most useful thing for everyone is details about the frames themselves. Please ignore details about components unless they are frame specific in some way. Each post should contain a nice side-on image of the frame or complete bike in question along with the following basic details about the frame. Head angle, top tube length and chainstay length and MSRP as a basic minimum please, (all dimensions in inches please - use google to convert) and any other details would be great, especially frame weight. I'll trawl the net when I have the time and inclination and add to this, but please post frames you like or own with the details of geometry. Remeber it's kinda pointless to post without the geometry and a nice square straight side-on image of the frame so people can see what the angles really look like. If you have more details about a frame already posted, please PM the original poster of the frame in question and ask them to edit their original post to add more detail rather than reposting it! It'd be great if a Mod for this forum could make this sticky, please! Post away!