The Official Iron Horse Sunday / DW-Link Tech. & Tuning Section

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by S.K.C., Oct 17, 2006.

  1. S.K.C.

    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    (*A door creaks open... light pours into a pitch-black room... a figure appears in the doorway*)

    (*the figure steps in, the door closes then total darkness*)

    (*footsteps are heard followed by the sound of a person tripping over a metal bucket then falling down a flight of stairs*)


    OW...OW... sonofa...

    ...Mother of GOD it's dusty in here.

    (*turns on lights*)

    Hey everyone!

    Jesus - I haven't been here since the summer of 2008? No wonder I can't see the entrance any more - it's covered in ivy... someone really needs to trim these hedges... and the cobwebs.... and what's with all of these empties of PBR?

    OK, so either I've been spending too much time alone on the internet, or the jpegs of info I posted here during the last presidency have degraded in quality due to site upgrades...

    I will re-post and reorganize the info and try to condense things to make searching more expediant and useful.

    For example: Need a new lower link, or the hardware to mount it?

    sha-ZAAM: http://www.mountainbikecomponents.co.uk/items.asp?CategoryID=387&Name=IRON+HORSE+Linkages+and+spares




    Me (S.K.C.) - U.S. Open 2007:







    UPDATE: 02/11/08
    Linkage Kits AND Vivid Compatible Lower Links are IN:


    How to Check Suspension Sag:
    http://www.pushindustries.com/support.php














    Sunday Measurement Specs (ALL Model Years):
    2006/ 2007 DW-Link Hardware & Torque Specs:


    2007 Sunday Schematics Exploded View w/ Part #'s and Torque Values

    I.H. Sunday Geo. - all model years

    05'/06' Iron Horse Sunday Frame Descriptions:
    06' Frame Types:
    07 Frame Types:

    Iron Horse Shock Hardware Info (All Models):
     
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  2. S.K.C.

    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    Suspension Tuners:
    Q&A Sunday DHX Shock Adjustments by dw:

    DW-Link & Standard "Stock" Shocks Explained (Long Version ) :
    DW-Link Info:http://www.dw-link.com/home.html

    DW-Link Instant Center Explained by DW:
    Sunday DW-Link Leverage Ratios Explained by DW:
     
  3. Transcend

    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    Thread stuck so people will STOP ASKING THE SAME GODDAMNED QUESTIONS over and over and over.
     
  4. S.K.C.

    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    Lol.

    Well done my friend.:biggrin:


    EDIT:

    Video review of the 2006 Iron Horse Sunday:
    Right Click "Save As":
    http://diablofreeridepark.com/video/04diablosmall.wmv


    ... an informative, in-depth, no-B.S. look at a great bike. Truly breath-taking.

    :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
     
  5. ElTORO

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    So what color is the 07 Team?????:bonk: :bonk: :bonk: :busted: :busted:

    :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

    Sorry Transcend had to. You can delete this post now!
     
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    Transcend My Nuts Are Flat

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    It's 3d ano violet, if you don't like it, tough.
     
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  8. dG video

    dG video I blew a mod to get this title

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    Heres a question.

    I have a 2006 Sunday WC. If I paint it myself, or have it done professionally will it void warranty?
     
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    Have to send it to Class Act Coatings in Portland, otherwise it's voided. That's my understanding at least.
     
  10. dante

    dante Unabomber

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    as a bit of advice, just send it to Class Act. I had a phone call a week ago from someone who had their local guy do it. lets just say it didn't end up too well.... :disgust:
     
  11. dw

    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    AHAHAHAHAHA

    That is really damn funny. Thanks man.

    Damn, I type a lot....
     
  12. S.K.C.

    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    :biggrin:

    No problem - this has been a long time coming...
     
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    I think this information is important to many
    On my 05 Sunday with a 5th shock , I would like to replace both upper and lower shock mounts + reducers with the most updated hardwere version but I am not sure the local IH dealer knows the correct part numbers .

    Is there a part No. chart I can chose the parts I need from ?
    IH part No. for 5th shock reducers ?
    IH part No. for 5th latest generation shock pins ?
     
  14. DH biker

    DH biker Turbo Monkey

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    Very cool topic with some very good info.
     
  15. dw

    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    As far as I know there is no Iron Horse part number for the 2005 shock reducers because these parts are sourced from Progressive Suspension. The 8mm reducers should have an 8.00mm hole. They are 23mm wide in 05 and 06. That's what I can lend.

    Dave
     
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    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    Shock and hardware sizes:

    2005 Sunday:
    shock: 5th element coil, dw-link light compression tune
    size: 9.5X3.0
    hardware: 23 width X 8.00 ID top and bottom

    2006 Sunday:
    shock: FOX DHX 5.0 coil, dw-link light compression tune
    size: 9.5X3.0
    hardware: 23 width X 8.00 ID top and bottom

    2007 Sunday:
    shock: FOX DHX 5.0 coil, dw-link light compression tune
    30 width X 10.00 I.D. top and bottom
     
  17. Eggzoi

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    Are the DHX and 5th the only shocks that need retunes to work on the Sunday? Could we put a stock ROCO or a Double Barrel on for example?
     
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    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    Lars tried to get the double barrel tuned on his 06 bike, couldn't get it right, but I think we can get that shock to work stock. I haven't tried to tune it myself.

    The ROCO and Avalanche Chubie both require a low compression tune.

    Dave
     
  19. DTLogic

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    What would the shock settings be for the 5th?
     
  20. dw

    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    Its under the Manitou post up top
     
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    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    DTLogic, and dw: Just added the Progressive 5th Element info to the first page. It's a bit more in-depth and has some values you can play with for a baseline set of adjustments.

    :biggrin:
     
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    Indeed... :p
     
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    sorry to ag it on...so am i correct in assuming that the '06 factory frames are the same as the '07's minus the new linkage and paint?
     
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    No they arnt.
     
  26. dw

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    read the first post, about 3/4 of the way down. All new frame in 07.
     
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    word....it just sounds like the '06 factory frame discript.
     
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    dw Wiffle Ball ninja

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    07' Sunday Factory Frame Description:
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    - 0.9 lbs lighter (than non-U.S. made frames)
    - Totally new 6069 triple butted tubing.
    - New forged 7075 links top and bottom.
    - More chain guide clearance on the uprights.
    - Bolt in-main pivots.
    - 10mm self aligning shock hardware and a pretty cool way of tightening down the lower shock pivot as tight as you want.
    - New graphics and stronger paint.
     
  29. klunky

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    So do you have a weight difference between 06 and 07 factorys?
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    is the 2006 sunday world cup frame a usa frame or a tichee frame. also were can i send it to get repainted. thanks
     
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    For paint and frame descriptions please read the first page - everything you need is there.

    As far as weight difference between the 06' and 07' Factory frames, I'm pretty sure it is very minimal.

    DW might know a more definitive answer, than I can give here...

    Hope this helps.

    :biggrin:
     
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    Please read through this thread. Both of your questions have already been answered on the first page!

    -Patrick
    Proud IH Sunday owner!
     
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    pinkshirtphotos site moron

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    i did look through the treads. i cant find any true answer about the paint.
    and sorry for asking the ? about the country
     
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    I answered it already. You need to send the frame to Class Act Coatings in Portland if you want to retain your warranty.
     
  35. S.K.C.

    S.K.C. Turbo Monkey

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    Sean - no problem. Since you didn't say where you were from I think everyone just assumed you were from the States.

    Class Act Paint and Powder in Portland Oregon is your best bet. Their prices are reasonable and their work is excellent.

    If you are going to be mailing in your frame from another country, contact Dante(goes by this name on RideMonkey) at Iron Horse to get in touch with Class Act. He should be able to help with hooking you up.
     
  36. Demomonkey

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    I've just purchased an 05 Factory frameset. Is the seatpost size still 30mm? I had an inkling that it was 31.6mm and have purchased (not yet received) a 31.6 post. I now have this distinct feeling of impending doom after reading the specs above.

    Somebody please put me out of my misery and confirm seatpost diameter specs for an 05 Factory. If i've f**ked up I can probably avoid the purchase.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    it's 30.0.



     
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    Thanks, now i've got to get out of an online auction purchase for a 31.6! Sigh....

    :bonk:
     
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    sorry if its been posted, didnt see this anywhere.
    im 6'1 should i go for the 17" or 19" frame?

    cheers
     
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    Although this info is somewhere on the board seeing that this is the Sunday tech info thread, how does one remove the shock? Do the cranks/ring need to be removed. On the left there is just some strange bolt thing whereas the driveside has an proper head. Also, my shock hardware keeps coming loose up top, how do I stop that?