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Tubeless, will I die?

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  1. maxyedor

    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    Considering going tubeless on the road bike, and Mavic Ksyrium SLs, which should be roughly perfect for it since they have a totally sealed tire-bed. Question is, if I use regular tires, rather than tubeless specific ones, will I have issues? I've done it on an MTB, but MTB tires have a whole lot more rubber in the bead, and a much rounder profile.
     

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  2. Flo33

    Flo33 Monkey

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    The mechanic I talked to about that said no way, because of the high pressure. I haven't tried it myself, tubeless (ready) road tires are still stupidly expensive. Give it a try and report. Will follow, maybe. :D
     
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  3. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    Yes you will die. Not sure if the tires will have anything to do with it, but you will die.
     
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    boostindoubles Nacho Libre

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    I'm running tubeless on my gravel grinder, 40mm wide tires. It's cool, but not as cool as tubeless mtb. The higher pressures and lower volume work against quick sealing holes, leading to flat tires that need to be pumped back up. It's still better than running tubes, I think.

    Also, I had a non tubeless tire in the rear and I destroyed it quickly, tearing sidewalls and ripping out tread. May have just been the tire but the tubeless ready tire I bought to replace it is much burlier.
     
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    go tubular and learn to glue
     
  6. maxyedor

    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    That doesn't solve my puncture problem, tubeless has almost entirely solved it on the MTB. Pick up a thorn, loose a little special sauce, keep rolling.

    Threw a set of Continental's cheapest $13 tires on and actually having a lot of luck with them thus far, will wait on sketchy tubeless experimentation for now.
     
  7. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    A small amount of your favorite sealant in a lightweight tube has always worked well for me.
     
  8. MikeD

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    Inject sealant into tubulars somehow...? Guess you'd need a syringe and let the hole self-seal, unless there's some valve arrangement other than Presta, which I've never seen.

    And putting a hole in a high-pressure tire seems like a very poor idea to me. Maybe on the glue side of the tubular?

    Hrm.
     
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  9. SkaredShtles

    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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    jstuhlman We noticed.

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    oh, he ded.
     
  11. MikeD

    MikeD Leader and Demogogue of the Ridemonkey Satinists

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    Tubeless did, in fact, kill him. I just wonder how it did it from inside his colon.
     
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    SkaredShtles I love NEWCASTLE and will ONLY drink NEWCASTLE!!!!

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  13. maxyedor

    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    I regret to inform you all of my continued liveliness, colon and and all.

    Looked at the roadbike this morning, stupid thing has a flat tire, may get sketchy this weekend.
     
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    Not sure if the tires will have anything to do with it
     
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    @maxyedor still alive? Had a puncture this weekend :rant: May be ripe for conversion.
     
  16. maxyedor

    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    No, I'm still a bit of wuss, and afraid to guinea pig it, can't find any definitive answer online. I'm having more road bike flats than ever, so i'm ignoring the RB and just riding my MTB instead. I really need to sort this out soon.
     
  17. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    Just a reminder that a cheap, simple, effective, non death inducing solution has been proposed.
     
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    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    Last 3 flats have been due to the valve stem ripping out, which has me completely baffled.

    Though I'll probably shoot some Stans in the next tube anyway, it's turning into thorn season around here.
     
  19. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    Valve stem failure is either a shitty tube or user error.

    What pressure are you running?
     
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    I'm guessing around ten.
     
  21. maxyedor

    maxyedor <b>TOOL PRO</b>

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    I think old tubes are the culprit, 90-100PSI shouldn't be a pressure issue.