Yeah I'm sure the US has its OWN doctors that specialize in this stuff. No reason for our guys to go overseas the special sauce.Heidi said:
Ullrich and Basso are out of the Tour.
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Yep, I read that and loved that article. I'm pissed I threw the issue away when we moved. :redhot:sanjuro said:
OLN needs to update their TdF banner ad:
So why should anyone watch the Tour this year at all now...???
I agree. It's really gotta suck to see your peers out there racing knowing that they are as guilty as you but they just didn't get caught.Heidi said:
Still chaps my hide that people cheat, but I guess that's human nature. (Especially when a few million bucks are concerned)
Same reason they should have been watching it before.N8 said:
Does Hincapie have a chance to win..??
Who is Team Dico's Lance replacement anyway?
Who is Team Dico's Lance replacement anyway?
I mainly watched it to see Lance & Co kick ass...Heidi said:
They aren't replacing Lance - they are going with 3-4 riders who can produce and after the first week they will see who shines the brightest.
Dude, it's wide open now. There are a bunch of different guys that can win. That makes it more interesting IMO. Still sucks that all those guys got the boot though.N8 said:
...Breaking News...Breaking News...Breaking News...
Armstrong back from retirement
From cyclingnews.com
PARIS, France -- Retired Tour de France 7-time champion Lance Armstrong is coming out of retirement after being asked by the UCI to compete in this year's Tour de France following the drugs scandal.
Armstrong said "Look, I've won this race 7 times before and I think I can go for number 8. Besides, with the debacle of the drugs and doping scandal the Tour needs some positive news and I believe me coming out of retirement will help".
Armstrong went on to say post Sheryl life and watching NBA finals matches was really quite boring and his missed the camaraderie of his Discovery team and the love of the French press.
Robbie McEwen, the ego-driven Australian sprinter on the Davitamon-Lotto team, was pleased with the news. He was looking forward to following up on his 2002 promise of filling Lance's mouth with his fist.
Armstrong back from retirement
From cyclingnews.com
PARIS, France -- Retired Tour de France 7-time champion Lance Armstrong is coming out of retirement after being asked by the UCI to compete in this year's Tour de France following the drugs scandal.
Armstrong said "Look, I've won this race 7 times before and I think I can go for number 8. Besides, with the debacle of the drugs and doping scandal the Tour needs some positive news and I believe me coming out of retirement will help".
Armstrong went on to say post Sheryl life and watching NBA finals matches was really quite boring and his missed the camaraderie of his Discovery team and the love of the French press.
Robbie McEwen, the ego-driven Australian sprinter on the Davitamon-Lotto team, was pleased with the news. He was looking forward to following up on his 2002 promise of filling Lance's mouth with his fist.
Friday Foamiing Rant:
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10178.0.html
hahaha - Tyra Banks in a skinsuit!
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/10178.0.html
hahaha - Tyra Banks in a skinsuit!
Latest Odds with the bookie now looks really interesting
* Alejandro Valverde (ILL) -7/2
* Alexandre Vinokourov (Wur) -7/2
* Levi Leipheimer (Ger) -7/1
* Floyd Landis (Pho) -7/1
* Cadel Evans (Dav) -10/1
* Yaroslav Popovych (Dis) -12/1
* Paolo Savoldelli (Dis) -20/1
* Andreas Kloden (T-M) -20/1
* Michael Rasmussen (Rab) -25/1
* Denis Menchov (Rab) -25/1
* George Hincapie (Dis) -25/1
* Iban Mayo (Eus) -25/1
* Jose Azevedo (Dis) -25/1
* Christophe Moreau (Ag2) -33/1
If they let him Ride I have been saying Vino since the spring !
* Alejandro Valverde (ILL) -7/2
* Alexandre Vinokourov (Wur) -7/2
* Levi Leipheimer (Ger) -7/1
* Floyd Landis (Pho) -7/1
* Cadel Evans (Dav) -10/1
* Yaroslav Popovych (Dis) -12/1
* Paolo Savoldelli (Dis) -20/1
* Andreas Kloden (T-M) -20/1
* Michael Rasmussen (Rab) -25/1
* Denis Menchov (Rab) -25/1
* George Hincapie (Dis) -25/1
* Iban Mayo (Eus) -25/1
* Jose Azevedo (Dis) -25/1
* Christophe Moreau (Ag2) -33/1
If they let him Ride I have been saying Vino since the spring !
Bingo. It's not so much that they got caught, it's that so many others haven't gotten caught.Heidi said:
An equal playing field - that's what we're all shooting for here.
Mancebo's Done !
cycling news said:
But how can Vino ride without a team? Did I miss something?
I know , this is all so Confussing ! Is he going to get another team ?Heidi said:
People sure are passing a lot of judgments on me as well as the riders. I havent once said that they are innocent nor have I said they are guilty Im just pointing out that there has been no mention of absolute evidence of blood doping for some specific riders. Even your article quotes drugs not blood but i have to admit i stopped reading when i hit the word EPO which is not what these guys are being accused of AND at best that's all it is at this point for some of the riders, an accusation.sanjuro said:
If Lance was kicked off his team every time someone pointed their finger at him, hed of never gotten off the start line.
I actually figured he was blood and epo but i figured it was ok for him.Heidi said:
the org is not going to let vino start.
FixedThe Toninator said:
That's where I'm saying there is obviously something pretty damning inthe evidence the team directors saw to pull Basso. He claims it's because it would be too hard on Basso to try to defend himself, be hunted by journalists and photographers, and yet try to still ride and win. I call BS. No rider would throw away dreams of winning the TdF like that.The Toninator said:
"Even though this will mean that many teams will be reduced in number - as excluded riders will not be replaced"
I Agree completly , That amy Riders unless there is something pretty damming , they are not all going to just up quit. Especially since this is the Big one the TdF . Then Basso with a Chance to do a Giro/Tour Duo, be one of the few, No way would he just up and walk that easily.Heidi said:
I agree. For Riis to pull Basso out, he would have to have been guilty as hell according to the evidence.Heidi said:
I am a huge tour fan and this $hit is just heartbreaking to me.
I could not wait for an Ullrich, Basso dual this year.
Damn.
The French are really gonna hate it if another American wins their race year. Landis, Leipheimer, Hincapie, that would be sweet,
but regardless this is gonna suck, and is just horrific for cycling.
$319!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm just going to watch it.
Well you just do that then.
He will.
To watch two Americans duking it out for the top spot on the podium and to see how the fans react to all of this. Otherwise, it's just going to be a full-on soap-opera on wheels.N8 said:
I must admit I was shocked that Armstrong's name wasn't mentioned...or maybe they're saving the best for last?
DRB said:
BRING ON THE ASTERISK!sanjuro said:
I wonder if they can make an asterisk look sorta like a needle?
And it seems like these guys can get rid of that silly zebra and get a real spokeman...
And it seems like these guys can get rid of that silly zebra and get a real spokeman...
I forgot to mention that the sport of cycling will never die.
Racing, on the other hand, is in serious critical condition. If this doesn't get things cleaned up then nothing will. This is easily the make-or-break situation that racing has been heading towards.
Racing, on the other hand, is in serious critical condition. If this doesn't get things cleaned up then nothing will. This is easily the make-or-break situation that racing has been heading towards.
Vino's out.
The Wurth team left because they did not have the minimum number of riders to even start.
Boo.
The Wurth team left because they did not have the minimum number of riders to even start.
Boo.
I have 7 pairs sitting next to me here...Heidi said:
Too bad none of them are my size.