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Start date May 19, 2004

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,721

DHS said:
hmm i don't have that issue with my RL, been running the hadley 12mm 135 in it for 2 years now...
call BMW and tell them

it has been a while since i really "looked" at it but when the bike was new and i was molesting every square inch, i noticed the axle was alittle smaller than remember other axles being. the axle on my V10 is a TIGHT TIGHT fit. FWIW.

its probably not a big deal. but under the stresses of downhilling on rough stuff at high speed, that abuse is going to exploit any "play" in tolerances.

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,722

yea my axle fits very snugly. i know what you mean. call anyway...

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,723

DHS said:
yea my axle fits very snugly.

that's good to know! thx

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,724

can i have those hubs in that pic?

i could always use more..

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,725

Fvck me. i finally throw down for a new Ti spring and the same damn day after payment is made, i find this. Someone please throw me a freekin bone when you find something cool for sale. hesus christo!

lucky bastards

LET ME KNOW IF YOU BUY THIS SO I CAN DELETE IT.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Took this off my racelink
I don't know exactly what it will work on.
$75.00 + shipping
Gideon
gideonkaplan@yahoo.com

L

Lime Green

Chimp

#2,726

I find them revolting. Hucknastylicious.

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,727

seismic

Turbo Monkey

#2,728

nice pic, -but what do we have to see ?

mack

Turbo Monkey

#2,729

Jimmy_Pop said:
I don't know exactly what it will work on.

Its a 550 by 3.0. So it should work on Fox or Manitou shocks as well as avy.

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey

#2,730

mack said:
Its a 550 by 3.0. So it should work on Fox or Manitou shocks as well as avy.

fox, progressive & manitou springs are interchangable, but they are a smaller diameter, and therefore dont fit properly, romic & avy springs (which are interchangable).

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,731

mack said:
Its a 550 by 3.0. So it should work on Fox or Manitou shocks as well as avy.

I didnt write that, this was an item that i found forsale online and will work for many fellow bmw owners, so i thought i'd pass it along here.

i installed my TI spring a few minutes after this shot was taken yesterday then my camera died and i dont have the charger. owell, i like the Ti spring. I'll get to test it out soon and see if i can feel any difference.

Sverre

Monkey

#2,732

Jimmy_Pop said:
I didnt write that, this was an item that i found forsale online and will work for many fellow bmw owners, so i thought i'd pass it along here.

i installed my TI spring a few minutes after this shot was taken yesterday then my camera died and i dont have the charger. owell, i like the Ti spring. I'll get to test it out soon and see if i can feel any difference.

Wohaaa! That's a nice picture Joel :thumb:

Our bikes definatley deserves Ti springs, no doubt. Have you gotten that Ti spindle yet? Is that a new crank-chainwheel I see aswell?
Your bike is looking sooo nice. Have a nice testride with the new spring.

Sverre

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey

#2,733

Sverre said:
Have you gotten that Ti spindle yet?
Sverre

i've got a profile ti spindle with knight titanium crank & chainring bolts kicking around if someone's in need; that steel spindle is an anchor.

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,734

funny about the Ti spindle. i have the Profile Ti spindle. it is about a 1/2 inch longer than the stock, steel spindle. to make up for that difference, you have to space ONE crank arm out much further than the other. you cannot space them evenly. i didnt like that at all. second, i put the stock steel spindle in one hand and the longer Ti and all the spacers in the other and the difference was minimal. so i put the steel spindle in and now enjoy a much cleaner installation.
I wish they made a Ti spindle in the same length as stock.

Ps, those are the cranks i ordered with the frame 165's. im going to order another set of LHD arms in black and in the standard size, not the oversized arms in attempt to save alittle weight. The steel spindle and the DJ arms are really heavy.

OrthoPT

Monkey

#2,735

Jimmy_Pop said:
I didnt write that, this was an item that i found forsale online and will work for many fellow bmw owners, so i thought i'd pass it along here.

i installed my TI spring a few minutes after this shot was taken yesterday then my camera died and i dont have the charger. owell, i like the Ti spring. I'll get to test it out soon and see if i can feel any difference.

Nice picture, Joel.
Do you have a closeup of the sticker on the back end of the top tube?
HOw do you like the FOX so far?
-Danny

xy9ine

Turbo Monkey

#2,736

Jimmy_Pop said:
funny about the Ti spindle. i have the Profile Ti spindle. it is about a 1/2 inch longer than the stock, steel spindle. to make up for that difference, you have to space ONE crank arm out much further than the other. you cannot space them evenly. i didnt like that at all. second, i put the stock steel spindle in one hand and the longer Ti and all the spacers in the other and the difference was minimal. so i put the steel spindle in and now enjoy a much cleaner installation.
I wish they made a Ti spindle in the same length as stock.

Ps, those are the cranks i ordered with the frame 165's. im going to order another set of LHD arms in black and in the standard size, not the oversized arms in attempt to save alittle weight. The steel spindle and the DJ arms are really heavy.

i guess the rl spindles are a different length than the tmx; mine are both 6-7/8". the profile "race" arms are a good call; they're reasonably light for a steel crank, and more than burly enough. the bike is coming along nicely - its lost a few pounds since its first iteration, huh?

sikocycles

Turbo Monkey

#2,737

I have a 6-7/8 in my RL

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,738

sikocycles said:
I have a 6-7/8 in my RL

i had one too. and it does not fit as good as the stock steel and it does not weigh that much less.

the sticker is of Moe. i dont have a good closeup. i had them in my S8 too.

im sorry ya'll about the pinkbike sticker, 3.0's and risse fork.

OrthoPT

Monkey

#2,739

Ummm... Moe from the Three Stooges? :confused:

:confused:

OrthoPT

Monkey

#2,740

Duh. Sorry, NOW I see it on second pic.

Duzitall

Monkey

#2,741

Wow Joel, even your S8 was a beauty :thumb:

wish my scuba yellow v-10 was baby blue :heart:

J

-=JB=-

Chimp

#2,742

Nice S8 Joel

I also had a S8 with my Risse champs fitted... also with the 3" tyres

here without the risse:

D

Dan-Rides-Bikes

Chimp

#2,743

check issue 53 of dirt for a very very special brooklyn

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,744

xy9ine said:
i guess the rl spindles are a different length than the tmx; mine are both 6-7/8". the profile "race" arms are a good call; they're reasonably light for a steel crank, and more than burly enough. the bike is coming along nicely - its lost a few pounds since its first iteration, huh?

profile has their Ti spindles in every length that they have their steel now. so you can get the proper fit. the 6 7/8 is too long/wide for my racelink so i went for the one shorter then that

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey

#2,745

DHS said:
profile has their Ti spindles in every length that they have their steel now. so you can get the proper fit. the 6 7/8 is too long/wide for my racelink so i went for the one shorter then that

Ya that's what I thought, I thought they made both in all their lengthes

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,746

well, their website says 5.75, 6 and 6.875"

the RL sprindle is 6.25" i think

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,747

Jimmy_Pop said:
well, their website says 5.75, 6 and 6.875"

the RL sprindle is 6.25" i think

well they need to update their website then dammit

Sverre

Monkey

#2,748

Hmm.. I just bought a 6,875" Ti spindle for my RL. (This is the one Brooklyn told me to buy).. Haven't mounted it up yet. But I'm gonna check it out tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.

Sverre

randalliser

Chimp

#2,749

I have run the 6.875" Ti RL .spindle from the start - no problems whatsoever... With careful use of spacers the crankarms can sit fairly equal each side and I hardly noticed the extra spindle length.

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,750

not only do you have to manage the spacers on the crank spindle, but I was very particular with making sure the 28t chainwheel was properly spaced with the upper jackshaft pulley.

My testing showed that if you only spaced the arms evenly on the spindle in relation to the rear swing arm, you were not able to get proper alignment with the jackshaft pulleys. The pulleys on the jackshaft are already sitting way out towards the end of the axle. I dont see how you can add half and inch of spacing on the jackshaft to keep up with the crank spindle.

For me, my spacing put right hand crank arm alot further out than the crank arm that holds the 28t chainwheel.

I'm particular with alignment and in my line of work. i deal with alignment and items being "square" with eachother all day long and, eventhough ive run the 6.875" spindle for months now, it always bothered me. Especially when i compared the weights, it was nice to go back to the stock spindle. that way, i dont have to use those ghetto profile spacers. the spacers that doc builds look much cleaner without having to add more spacers.

my .02

im going to buy a Ti spindle in stock length.

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,751

i'll just have it cut then. yes i can do that correctly...

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,752

DHS said:
i'll just have it cut then. yes i can do that correctly...

i thought about that. will that leave enough splines for the arms to slide on?

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,753

yes, cut a little off each side..

randalliser

Chimp

#2,754

The alignment of my chainring/jackshaft is spot on 100% - wouldn't consider having it any other way. I'm using a Ti imperial which is thinner than the stock BMW chainwheel so maybe thats aided my setup... dunno. There is a very small amount of room to play with regarding how much axle is engaged in the crankarm too. I'll try and get some pics up to show how my setup is - I recall it took 3 attempts to get everything spaced and aligned correctly... I've done scores of Profile setups over the years at work and everytime it bugs me how awkward it is to get Profile arms off the spindle - I'm not a big fan of beating stuff with mallets ! Profile axle spacers are ghetto but a fact of life when setting up 3 piece cranksets imo !

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey

#2,755

OK so since this thread is alive again i'm X posting my jump on my park bike. The jump is about 60 feet and almost 45 feet of vert. No animals or trees were harmed in the testing process.

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey

#2,756

So with profiles you actually hammer the cranks ON the spindles? I have the MRP bones cranks and you hammer them off with a special screwed bolt in place, but you put em on using the cranks bolts and a lot of grease.... And I've installed and taken off the MRPs about 12 times now and they still mount clean and nifty. I had no clue with profiles you hammer the cranks on. Weird.

randalliser said:
The alignment of my chainring/jackshaft is spot on 100% - wouldn't consider having it any other way. I'm using a Ti imperial which is thinner than the stock BMW chainwheel so maybe thats aided my setup... dunno. There is a very small amount of room to play with regarding how much axle is engaged in the crankarm too. I'll try and get some pics up to show how my setup is - I recall it took 3 attempts to get everything spaced and aligned correctly... I've done scores of Profile setups over the years at work and everytime it bugs me how awkward it is to get Profile arms off the spindle - I'm not a big fan of beating stuff with mallets ! Profile axle spacers are ghetto but a fact of life when setting up 3 piece cranksets imo !

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,757

i can pull my crank arms off with my bare mittens

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy

#2,758

Jimmy_Pop said:
i can pull my crank arms off with my bare mittens

ditto..
thats what BMW uses. its all on the spindle and bb when you get the bike. or atleast it should be...

Jimmy_Pop

Turbo Monkey

#2,759

tastes good, keeps your pipes clean too.

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey

#2,760

Jimmy_Pop said:
tastes good, keeps your pipes clean too.

hahaha.

I'll try X-lax on my cranks.

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