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Bender going for the century

arboc!

Turbo Monkey
Dec 18, 2004
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just so you people know, he talks shortly about the 100' drop in the interbike video for marzocchi on pinkbike.
 

Sherpa

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Jan 28, 2004
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Urban FR'er 666 said:
You must be an: "(insert propper word here)"!!! :stupid: 100 foot is nowhere neer enough time for a parachute to open!!! :rolleyes:
Umm, he could go off with a little a drag parachute behind him to slow him down and help him stay stable in the air.
 

hilldown

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Aug 30, 2005
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This sounds lame I know, but a freind of mine used to ride with Bender and Thor Wixom's crew. I know I spelled Wixom wrong, anyway he said Benders skill was only in riding off something. A manual or any other normal street trick was very difficult for him during urban sessions. ( This could be different now Im sure )He's got balls for days, but anybody with nuts can huck. Throw some flavor in it and that dead sailor will come back to life. All im saying is Bender needs the basics first. He went meat before the milk, and hes really going to hurt himself.
 

ohio

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Nov 26, 2001
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hilldown said:
This sounds lame I know, but a freind of mine used to ride with Bender and Thor Wixom's crew. I know I spelled Wixom wrong, anyway he said Benders skill was only in riding off something.
And I've heard from other folks that rode with him, that said he's fast as hell, very very skilled, and a super nice guy with tons of enthusiasm.

When was the last time you needed to manual off a cliff?
 

kidwoo

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ohio said:
When was the last time you needed to manual off a cliff?
Last week. I was getting chased out of desolation wilderness by a forest service ninja. He threw a poison alligator tipped star at my front tire which exploded (from the poison) and I had to manny off this hella sick butte. Thanks to modern long travel single fork technology, I was able to barspin before I landed.
 

OGRipper

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Feb 3, 2004
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kidwoo said:
Last week. I was getting chased out of desolation wilderness by a forest service ninja. He threw a poison alligator tipped star at my front tire which exploded (from the poison) and I had to manny off this hella sick butte. Thanks to modern long travel single fork technology, I was able to barspin before I landed.

Whoa, gnar.
 

Shortbus

Turbo Monkey
Feb 27, 2002
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I almost fell on the floor laughing watching that video. Isn't that the same Bryson dude who was bitching here about not getting enough pieces of the pie in the market?
 

dump

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Oct 12, 2001
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ohio said:
And I've heard from other folks that rode with him, that said he's fast as hell, very very skilled, and a super nice guy with tons of enthusiasm.

When was the last time you needed to manual off a cliff?
rebel :dancing:
 

Cant Climb

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May 9, 2004
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Didn't BearClaw say sometime last year that a hundred foot drop was doable......?........
 

TheInedibleHulk

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May 26, 2004
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I cant believe Im joining in this thread but... look at the sh1t that can be landed on a moto. Given, most moto riders are not into riding off huge cliffs, but at the apex of some of the jumps they are hitting now they are retardedly high off the ground and often going alot faster then 54 mph. All with not much more travel than bender's bike has. Given the moto is alot more stable and stonger, but its still not inconcievable. Like already said, with the right downside you could theoretically land anything. The Jaw drop's landing is way soft and not super steep, although clearly do-able with some skill, it's not exactly ideal. If they take the time to prepare a landing on this one I could see it happening. Seriously he's still gonna die though.
 

pangeist

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Mar 18, 2005
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The guy is an effing stud whether he makes it or not. Every generation needs their "Evil Kneivel"(sp?). He is ours and I thank god every time he hucks big and lands! Just think GNAR sqared x Velocity = BENDER, YEAH!!!
 

El Caballo

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Nov 21, 2004
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TheInedibleHulk said:
I cant believe Im joining in this thread but... look at the sh1t that can be landed on a moto.
The problems with landing hits on a moto vs. a bicycle:

1) A motorcycle can adjust attitude in the air by gunning the engine and spinning the rear wheel (nose up) or hitting the rear brake (nose down). You see Supercross guys do this all the time.

2) The biggest problem: When you get big air you have a lot of speed.
On a moto you can match speed to the ground with your rear tire -- in fact, spinning it a little faster will make your landing more stable, because it will pull you forward. Again, you see the Supercross and jump guys do this all the time...the rear tire will almost always kick up a puff of roost when they land.
On a bicycle you can't really pedal in the air, so your tires will always be rotating a lot more slowly than the ground is moving, and you will get thrown forward when you land. The softer the landing, the worse this gets.

This is why moto guys will always be able to go bigger than cyclists, no matter how much run-up or tow-in the bicycle gets.
 

Tharkun

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Nov 21, 2004
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TheInedibleHulk said:
I cant believe Im joining in this thread but... look at the sh1t that can be landed on a moto. Given, most moto riders are not into riding off huge cliffs, but at the apex of some of the jumps they are hitting now they are retardedly high off the ground and often going alot faster then 54 mph. All with not much more travel than bender's bike has. Given the moto is alot more stable and stonger, but its still not inconcievable. Like already said, with the right downside you could theoretically land anything. The Jaw drop's landing is way soft and not super steep, although clearly do-able with some skill, it's not exactly ideal. If they take the time to prepare a landing on this one I could see it happening. Seriously he's still gonna die though.
Good point. Seriously, the sport of mountain biking needs this. I don't really give two ****s what lycra wearing XC guys say, you don't attract youth into this sport. You don't make this sport impressive. Kids see moto guys flying 90 feet and pulling off insane stunts, it's cool right? They see mountain bikers pedaling up a hill going 5 mph, not so great eh?

Here's the thing, this drop would be SICK. This will create interest and show people just what can be done on a pedal bike. Mountain bikes don't get any respect, this will COMMAND respect. It's little wonder kids prefer dirtbikes and the like, all they see with mountain bikes are limitations. This drop will help break those limits.

El Caballo, I never knew that about dirtbikes before. The spinning the rear wheel on landing does indeed make sense. However, you can adjust your flight on a mountain bike can't you? Hit front brake, nose up, hit rear break, nose down? Dirt jumpers do this I think.

Good luck to him and I seriously hope he does it and he lands it and he flips all of you off that say otherwise. Just because he does crazy things, doesn't mean he is stupid or degrading the sport, he is advancing it.
 

black noise

Turbo Monkey
Dec 31, 2004
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I don't know about the publicity thing. BMXers don't go huge, BMX bikes have massive limitations like barely being able to ride off pavement and away from smooth jumps. And BMX is popular, because of the tech stuff they do. Also skateboards can't go huge but people like them.

I think it could be sick. But I also have a feeling that it'll turn out like most of the other huge drops he's attempted.
 

chicodude

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Mar 28, 2004
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ohio said:
And I've heard from other folks that rode with him, that said he's fast as hell, very very skilled, and a super nice guy with tons of enthusiasm.

From what i've heard is that he's and intermidiate (sp?) rider with big brass ones
 

cjcrashesalot

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May 15, 2005
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black noise said:
BMXers don't go huge, BMX bikes have massive limitations like barely being able to ride off pavement and away from smooth jumps. And BMX is popular, because of the tech stuff they do. Also skateboards can't go huge but people like them.
Can't go huge :rolleyes: ? I guess you've never seen the vid of Danny way airing a massive gap into a quarter pipe, then setting a new record airing out. That would make most mountain bikers second guess the stunt, but he does it on no suspension and wheels which are about 2" tall. And Matt Hoffman was towed by a moto into a quarter pipe and aired out HUGE. Granted, he didn't land it, but huge is huge. Learn your sports :rolleyes: :stosh:
 

dirtyamerican

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Jan 15, 2005
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I can't believe how much of a cliche Bender threads are yet they go on. Everyone hears something from somebody else. Then someone makes a judge of character based on what they've seen of him in videos and they think they know him like a best friend. Then 50% say he's bad and the rest say he's good. It's the same old **** and nothing enlightening. Damn, I just lost 5 minutes of my life for nothing. Thanks a lot.
 

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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chicodude said:
From what i've heard is that he's and intermidiate (sp?) rider with big brass ones
Go ride "Flying Monkey" sometime.

MD
 

Nick

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Sep 21, 2001
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MikeD said:
Go ride "Flying Monkey" sometime.

MD
I got (and finished) watching season 3 of Drop In last night. There is a nice Bender segment in there which includes some footage of the Flying Monkey trail. He created that route, correct? I was amazed by the lines they took, it was one of the most gnarly "trails" I've ever seen.

100' is doable, but like many drops if it isn't in the context of a trail it isn't as interesting to me beyond the stunt aspect of it all. Like Chris Rock said, "you can drive a car with your feet but that doesn't make it a good idea." I am more impressed seeing a rider flowing down a trail and nailing 5 x 20 footers with style and smoothivity than one massive huck. That makes me want to get on my bike and push myself too.
 

bikenweed

Turbo Monkey
Oct 21, 2004
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cjcrashesalot said:
And Matt Hoffman was towed by a moto into a quarter pipe and aired out HUGE. Granted, he didn't land it, but huge is huge. Learn your sports :rolleyes: :stosh:
Mat has cleanly aired the huge quarter many times, getting around 27 feet of air on the highest. He first built a huge quarter in '93, and he pulled it then, too. He has fallen many times, too, including an incident with a weedeater engine on his bike to get more speed, but he can do it.

More BMXers going bigger than you:
Watch Seek and Destroy to see Garrett Byrnes air a good 25-30' drop, with about a 12-15' gap over another roof thrown in the middle. Also, see Ride BMX, circa 1998, when Garrett aired a set of bleachers. To flat. He didn't pull it, but it was close. In the same interview, he also gaps across a church roof. The photo isn't the greatest, but it's freaking amazing.

check http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133208&page=1 for more evidence of BMXers going large. Tech tricks are for little boys wearing girls' pants.
 

black noise

Turbo Monkey
Dec 31, 2004
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Do BMXers go huge like some mountain bikers? Look at a NWD video, and then tell me that a BMXer can pull something like the Ord gap in Kamloops.

Anyways. My point was that despite BMXings obvious limitations (most mtb dj bikes can ride nasty trails, but BMX bikes can't so well), it is still popular. I don't think the fact that a mtb can't do a 100ft drop (yet) is keeping kids away from mtbs.
 

Tharkun

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Nov 21, 2004
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I have tons of respect for BMXers. Just looking in RideBMX you will see guys doing 10 feet to flat - without helmets! And they are probably doing tricks as well! I wear a helmet for 5 feet to flat. Now you can argue all day long wheter this is bravery or stupidity, I personally think that helmets are not important when just riding around, only for hucks. But that is getting off topic. Back to Bender. True, maybe doing a 100 foot drop won't have people running to pick up MTB's, but I still believe that this is the future of MTB...FREERIDE!