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Turbo Monkey
May 9, 2004
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Dirt mag did a review of brakes last month........XTR/Saint were their top choice.

I'm saving my pennies for Saints next year. Sick of dealing with the "G2 syndrome" in the new hayes.....
 
Tarpon

Tarpon

Monkey
Jun 23, 2004
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I've run Saints for two years with good results. The only brake I have tried that is better is the Magura Gustav. Very powerful, they take a light touch, more powerful than the Saints with great modulation. I've been fighting the GAS that is pushing me to get a set.
 
kidwoo

kidwoo

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Aug 25, 2003
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I've had various sets of hayes brakes for the last 6 years and still have them on my dh and dirtjump bikes. They will not die.

But......I got a set of xtr brakes that came on my 03 enduro and I saw the light. I got a set of xts for another bike I built up because they really are the best overall feeling disc brake I've ever ridden. I've had a little time on pretty much everything out there right now. I'm going to be putting shimanos on all my bikes eventually.

Not only do they have all the locking power you could want, there really is true modulation in them. You can go from lightly dragging to full lock with one finger with very little effort.

And brian.........they work way better than your hopes. I've ridden your bike. :devil:

edit: all shimanos are compatible except for xtr. They have different hose fitting attachments.
 
OGRipper

OGRipper

back alley ripper
Feb 3, 2004
10,650
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Tarpon said:
I've run Saints for two years with good results. The only brake I have tried that is better is the Magura Gustav. Very powerful, they take a light touch, more powerful than the Saints with great modulation. I've been fighting the GAS that is pushing me to get a set.
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Yeah seriously, if weight and cost are not an issue, there is nothing better than the gustavs. I can't say I've ridden everything out there, but I've ridden a lot, and the power and control of the gustavs blew me away when I tried my buddy's earlier this year. They are heavy and kind of expensive (I think) but pretty friggin' awesome.
 
Spunger

Spunger

Git yer dumb questions here
Feb 19, 2003
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bagtagley said:
How do the Deore hydros stack up to the XT/Saints?
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Not really in the same league but very good for the money if you're not wanting to spend alot to get into hydro brakes. XT/Saint are going to be shimano's higher end of their brake line as Deore's are going to be the lowest end of their hydro line. But none the less they'll work fine.
 
julian_dh

julian_dh

Monkey
Jan 10, 2005
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i own hopes mono 6 and 4 and i really like them they have real good feel and mix of modulation and power but they dont have the crazy lock up like the original xt's or saints.

if you like a fast lock up go for the saint cause of the insane power
if you like nice modulation and the easiest bleeding brake go with hope
 
Ciaran

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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So Cal
I've never tried the saints but I can tell you that the XT 4 piston brakes with Goodridge hoses are absolutely awsome. Great power and modulation and are very easy to bleed.
 
PatBranch

PatBranch

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2004
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Transcend said:
Um no, completely wrong. 100% wrong.

I am using the same regular old hadley hubs I was using with hayes.
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Oh Im sorry, I really though you had to use shimano rotors. I had know idea you could use other rotors. :think:
 
Transcend

Transcend

My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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mtnbrider said:
Oh Im sorry, I really though you had to use shimano rotors. I had know idea you could use other rotors. :think:
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you can use any rotors you want..but what is stopping you from using shimano 6 bolt rotors? Is there some law in your area I am not aware of?
 
Ciaran

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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Transcend said:
you can use any rotors you want..but what is stopping you from using shimano 6 bolt rotors? Is there some law in your area I am not aware of?
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He's kinda young and inexperienced. I think he just didn't know that the only compatability issue is the size. (As in rotor size and adapter size)
 
PatBranch

PatBranch

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2004
10,451
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wine country
Ciaran said:
He's kinda young and inexperienced. I think he just didn't know that the only compatability issue is the size. (As in rotor size and adapter size)
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Exactly.....I didn't know that they made a 6 hole rotor. I thought they only made rotors for their hubs.
 
PatBranch

PatBranch

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2004
10,451
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wine country
hahahaha.........there isn't one here. Its Los Olivos; as DirtjumpP1 said LEARN TO SPELL. Are you trying to make a joke. I was wrong, BFD.
 
Ciaran

Ciaran

Fear my banana
Apr 5, 2004
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mtnbrider said:
Exactly.....I didn't know that they made a 6 hole rotor. I thought they only made rotors for their hubs.
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You can actually use pretty much any rotor as long as you have the correct adapter for the size rotor you have. For example I am running Shimano XT calipers with 8" Hayes rotors. As long as I have the 8 inch adapters for the calipers I should be OK. So you can run Saint calipers with any rotor/hub combo as long as you have the right adapter. :thumb:
 
dhpimp

dhpimp

Monkey
Mar 23, 2005
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kidwoo said:
edit: all shimanos are compatible except for xtr. They have different hose fitting attachments.
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Saint brakes rule! Excellent modulation and stopping power. Transcend is right - if you run one of each pad compound (both come with the brakes) it is the best feeling ever! The mono-body caliper means no power lost under extreme braking conditions.

As for XTR Brakes - you can run the calipers with any lever. It is the XTR Dual Control levers that require the banjo bolts a la 4-piston XT brake.

As for the person that said the brakes suck because the levers don't come with - that is a good thing! If you want to run Saint calipers with XT levers, LX or even Deore you can. I don't see how that sucks?
 
J

J5ive

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Saints for me too. Tried the Juicys, they didn't take. The popout blade is just plain annoying. Saints are just so simple, all the complex stuff is hidden away, which may mean if something breaks you will need a whole mc or caliper- but it also means that it is sealed better and less likley to be ruined by less knowledgable wrenching.

Oh- and, if you thought the saint lever feel was light? Try some redline 0 weight fork fluid. LUSH!
 
Dog Welder

Dog Welder

Turbo Monkey
Sep 7, 2001
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Pasadena, CA
dhpimp said:
Saint brakes rule! Excellent modulation and stopping power. Transcend is right - if you run one of each pad compound (both come with the brakes) it is the best feeling ever! The mono-body caliper means no power lost under extreme braking conditions.

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What is meant by running one of each pad? Like you have two seperate pads in a single caliper? or have the softer pad in the front brake and the harder pad in the rear?
 
SXtrailrider

SXtrailrider

Turbo Monkey
Aug 27, 2005
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um yeah your pills are antidepresents and yes you have a disorder that caled ADD but your case is so fed up that the regular pills like stretera doesn't work for you so you have to take antidepressents third your the one at what 195 lbs that is 35 more pounds then me and you are only 4 inches taller.

srry if i made you cry you therapist will take good care of you why don't you go talk to him
 
ohio

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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SF, CA
Bicyclist said:
Wow you guys fight like little girls.
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Nah, little girls can sometimes spell.

What we have here is our own special brand of illitero-patheti-slapping...
 
D

DH SB RIDER

Monkey
Aug 31, 2005
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Yea round up the horses and go to your stable you stupid hick white pride silly goose ****ing cold springs tavern licking, Lake Cachoma drinking ****ing peice of low class ****. PS i ****ed your stay home mom in the butt.
 
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