^^^^how do you figure? That might be the case for xc racing but in downhill racing there like maybe 4 older guys who race and I know of one or two that ride for fun. I cant even count the amount of grom that pay retail from working at there minimal paying jobs.
I don't like sponsorhouse.com
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sure thing.BeerDemon said:
um sure...not sure what races you are going to, none of them are the same ones I have been too apparently.Dufault01 said:
Transcend said:
I agree with Fraser on this one.Why do i get a bike put under me by my shop sponsor?Because i am a 36 year old road racer who rides with doctors and lawyers every week,people with dispaosable income.I have sold several bikes for the shop so his sponsorship paid off.Would he have the same results from a 16 yr old who rides with his minimum wage earning friends?Probably not.It's just business.
Sorry I was not even reffering to junior ex's. I was talking about the 10-14 year old kid that does the sport because he loves to ride his bicycle, and when he gets support he thinks he is at the top of the world. To anyone like that, it is the best feeling for a younger kid. You know?Transcend said:
BeerDemon said:
Thats very true...just following up a point Fraser made
Thats not what he meant by riding...bizutch said:whoa...had to check the dictionary on this one...I thought this was a Maven...
...apparently it means "expert".....
Hey..is that you Butch in the strips?bizutch said:
...apparently it means "expert".....
As someone who provides a service that is directly related to helping racers improve, I was very interested in setting up a Sponsorhouse account for my bussiness. After the page freezing up repeatadly at the same spot on various machines, I emailed tech support. I got one response that wasn't helpful, and I sent another email. Haven't heard back from them in 2 months, so I've pretty much given up on using SponsorHouse to manage my sponsorships...
Great concept though, can't see any real negatives for it. I used to throw out hundreds of resumes in the mid-90's at Spooky, so the ability to just e-delete and ignore is worth the price of admission from a sponsorship perspective...
Great concept though, can't see any real negatives for it. I used to throw out hundreds of resumes in the mid-90's at Spooky, so the ability to just e-delete and ignore is worth the price of admission from a sponsorship perspective...
I have mixed feelings about Sponsorhouse. I think it might possibly water down some of the sponsorships. At the sametime it makes sponsorships more accessable. Sponsorhouse has also made me lazy. I update my profile online but I do not do much for sponsorship outside of Sponsorhouse. I am not happy with how you can also no longer print your resume from Sponsorhouse to send to other companies.
In the end I have found sponsors that have made the money I spent on Sponsorhouse worth while. The problems I have I am more to blame than Sponsorhouse.
In the end I have found sponsors that have made the money I spent on Sponsorhouse worth while. The problems I have I am more to blame than Sponsorhouse.
Did you tell them that DH is a big ball sport?Transcend said:
Butch,there's no east coast /west coast thing going on here.They just won't send the UPS guy that far up in Appalachia cuz they show selections from "Deliverence"bizutch said:
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at the driver oreintation meetings.Racing is a bad example to begin with. But when was the last time you were at a c cup, obviously last year. Count the masters. Count the juniors? Im talking downhill here, not xc. Go ride downhill somewhere, how many 40 somethings do you see, how many groms?Transcend said:
Fraser, you have got to be kidding. Youth is the future of any sport. Not only from the progression, but from consumer $$. And because our sport doesnt have a marketing "extreme factor" We are losing event sponsorship, and team/Individual sponsorship $$ to other X game related sports.Transcend said:
It's true the DH bikes are big ticket items, but your average DH racer isnt someone A who pays retail, and B is a lawyer or a Doc. Maybe on a road bike or xc but not DH or 4x
Also, re Sponsorhouse..From a business aspect it is a great business.
It creates another avenue for manufactorers to distribute product at a better margin than if they were to sell to a wholesaler like quality. And it also can create brand loyality.
There is a loser however... the LBS
BKQuill said:
If he's lying down I can.
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you just wait whitey...we got sumthin' fer ya on 'is here side of farm bhoy....meat n taters be yur vitchels tonite! woowwweee!:redX:SCARY said:Butch,there's no east coast /west coast thing going on here.They just won't send the UPS guy that far up in Appalachia cuz they show selections from "Deliverence"
Fraser never said the kids were not the future of the sport. He is talking about how their are no kids in the sport compared to the 30+ crowd. I see it at the races the majority of the riders are over 30. Just riding at local resorts you see the same age groups. Kids do not participate in this sport as much as some people here like to believe. Go to a skatepark and look at the ages of the people there. Then go to a DH race you will realize that kids do not participate in this sport.Msisle Dad said:
We have already lost out to X-Game related things
Downhill riders are the minority, and even then, I know PLENTY of 30+ Dh racers. In fact at US nationals and most local races, they easily account for many more riders then the juniors and 19-24 crowd.Dufault01 said:
Then go stand at the start line for an XC race while they run the starts by age grouping. You will see how wrong you really are.
take your lithium and go play happy sourpuss....:love:Transcend said:
I got to say I have to agree with Fraser on the racing thing. Although I would go one step farther, racing is not the furture of the sport. It's all the other people that are. Getting the guy that takes he's bike out to the local trails for a ride along the beach. Like it or not racers are a very small percentage of the deal. Look at skiiing, the ski industry doesn't live or die by the racing, it's the guy that goes down to the local store and plops down his money for the gear that does.
Yes Jrs are the future of the racing side, but not the "sport"
As to the old guy think, it's bigger than most people think. I was kinda amzed when i moved here to Cali, how many older guys race. Even if you look on the road, the masters classes are pretty big there also, and there are 30+ guys, who can throw down with the kids....let us not forget that guys like Lopes and EC are in the old guy club.
Yes Jrs are the future of the racing side, but not the "sport"
As to the old guy think, it's bigger than most people think. I was kinda amzed when i moved here to Cali, how many older guys race. Even if you look on the road, the masters classes are pretty big there also, and there are 30+ guys, who can throw down with the kids....let us not forget that guys like Lopes and EC are in the old guy club.
yeah...Zutroy is right...nobody bought mountain bikes because of the coverage Palmer got...tons of people just ran out and bought DH bikes and started sporting tattoos randomly at the same time...pure coincidence....boardercross made Palmer, Palmer didn't make boardercross...."Pfffft"! 
This whole discussion has just about died down, but I wanted to give my two cents anyway:
When I was in second grade, I told my mom I wanted to grow up to be a musician. That night I had my first piano lesson. My mom said, "If you want to be a musician when you get older, you have to start now."
Sponsorship is about initiative.
If you want to eventually become a sponsored bike rider, you have to start somewhere. I joined SponsorHouse in my first year of racing just so that potential sponsors might see my face and remember it for down the road. I also worked hard at drafting letters "the old- fashioned way." I hoped that maybe when I raced expert class they'd remember me and I'd have a sponsor or two to help defray costs. By the time I joined SponsorHouse, I already had one sponsorship I had gotten "the old-fashioned way." I had also already received swag from Oakley and Under Armour because I had sent them letters that impressed them. Oakley even read one of my letters at one of their weekly meetings because they dug it so much!
Since then a number of companies have been kind enough to "throw me a bone." I might be one of the most-sponsored sport class downhillers out there. But I don't feel guilty for having discounts that riders who are better than me don't have. I am a go-getter and took initiative. I didn't expect sponsorships when I requested them. I sure as hell didn't think I was "buying" a sponsorship. I was pleasantly surprised when I got offers. Right now, to me, SponsorHouse is just one more avenue of exposure, out of many, and I'm thankful for it.
I hope that years from now if I want to get super-serious about the sport, sponsors will see that I have been working hard to promote them (and me). SponsorHouse is an excellent way to gain additional exposure. If you have a problem with it, don't join. If you are that important to your potential sponsor, they'll field your request whether or not it's through SponsorHouse.
When I was in second grade, I told my mom I wanted to grow up to be a musician. That night I had my first piano lesson. My mom said, "If you want to be a musician when you get older, you have to start now."
Sponsorship is about initiative.
If you want to eventually become a sponsored bike rider, you have to start somewhere. I joined SponsorHouse in my first year of racing just so that potential sponsors might see my face and remember it for down the road. I also worked hard at drafting letters "the old- fashioned way." I hoped that maybe when I raced expert class they'd remember me and I'd have a sponsor or two to help defray costs. By the time I joined SponsorHouse, I already had one sponsorship I had gotten "the old-fashioned way." I had also already received swag from Oakley and Under Armour because I had sent them letters that impressed them. Oakley even read one of my letters at one of their weekly meetings because they dug it so much!
Since then a number of companies have been kind enough to "throw me a bone." I might be one of the most-sponsored sport class downhillers out there. But I don't feel guilty for having discounts that riders who are better than me don't have. I am a go-getter and took initiative. I didn't expect sponsorships when I requested them. I sure as hell didn't think I was "buying" a sponsorship. I was pleasantly surprised when I got offers. Right now, to me, SponsorHouse is just one more avenue of exposure, out of many, and I'm thankful for it.
I hope that years from now if I want to get super-serious about the sport, sponsors will see that I have been working hard to promote them (and me). SponsorHouse is an excellent way to gain additional exposure. If you have a problem with it, don't join. If you are that important to your potential sponsor, they'll field your request whether or not it's through SponsorHouse.
Capt. Jack Sparrow said:
I don't want to be sexist or anything, but aren't you female?
That is more than likely why you have had so much sucess recruiting sponsorship. Not only is there an absolutely tiny number of female racers out there, females have proven themselves time and time again to be much better at selling product for their sponsors.
From a sponsors perspective, given two canidates of equal results, ability and communication skill, one male, and one female, I will sponsor the female every time. Not only is their a greater likelyhood that I will get more exposure results wise, It is more likely that the female cannidate will be outgoing, personable and level-headed.
You certainly have it right when it comes to what the sponsorship package is all about!
SuspectDevice said:I don't want to be sexist or anything,
From a sponsors perspective, given two canidates of equal results, ability and communication skill, one male, and one female, I will sponsor the female every time. [ QUOTE]
or you could have just typed "I :heart: boobies."
Jeremy R said:or you could have just typed "I :heart: boobies."ROFLMAO..Jeremy just calls 'em like he sees 'em
my company has got a contract to distribute maxxis quad and moto tyres overe here and I can't believe the sponsorship requests we get! if sponsorhouse worked over here, I would use it. The way I see it is any rider that I want to see riding my product I will contact myself, any others are going to get a grass roots kind of package. If SH can help me keep costs down, I'm all for it.
On the other hand I do feel that 5OO$ is way too much! after all it's probably the same kind of software used by dating agencies...
my 0.02$
On the other hand I do feel that 5OO$ is way too much! after all it's probably the same kind of software used by dating agencies...
my 0.02$
hink it sucks too. I raced for rpm for 4 or 5 seasons after one season of solo. i switched out of that dur to lots of issues and kida stopped racing. Then i got big into street and dirt jumping but there was no way in hell i was going to pay retail for stuff after most of it had been handed out free or for a fraction of the cost. I contacted all my current sponsors via email and got everyone I talked to minus mavic this year. Sponsorhouse seems just like a cheap gimic to hook everyone up just so they can say they are sponsored and get a "deal". In essense its a good idea but it needs to be more spread out in terms of what riders get what
The more I read this the more I notice people are complaining about things Sponsorhouse has no control of. They do not determine what companies use their service. They do not determine who gets sponsored. They do not determine what level of sponsorship riders recieve.
I have used Sponsorhouse and recieved sponsorships the same, lower, or better than I did using the old fashioned method. It all comes down to what you put in your profile.
True some companies might be handing out sponsorships like candy on halloween but most do not. Being turned down for sponsorship is a hard thing to take, because the company is turning you down as a person. We can always say we are better than the next guy. That is what your profile on Sponsorhouse should say. Maybe it doesn't say you are better. We all in our own minds think we are the better rider, even when it is not true.
By going and saying Sponsorhouse sucks you are in essence killing the messenger.
Also saying people are buying sponsorhips by upgrading is not correct. Really the only accounts that have a major difference are the Basic and Premium. Sponsors are going to like the premium accounts because the canidates can post recent news and stay in contact with them. These are reasons you get sponsored. Sponsors want to know what is going on and how you like their product and so forth. would I want to sponsor the rider that says he will give me reports and updates? Or do I want to sponsor the rider that already has a outlet to give me reports and updates that I can easily check along with my other riders. Maybe you have another way of giving feedback and keeping sponsors up to date with what is going on. This should be made very clear in your resume.
I for one want to upgrade my account because it will be a easy way to keep all of my racing info in one place. I just haven't yet because I need the money elsewhere. I really like the idea of going to one website to contact my sponsors, order product, have info on how things are going, and keep my resume updated. I can be very disorganized and Sponsorhouse makes things easier.
I have used Sponsorhouse and recieved sponsorships the same, lower, or better than I did using the old fashioned method. It all comes down to what you put in your profile.
True some companies might be handing out sponsorships like candy on halloween but most do not. Being turned down for sponsorship is a hard thing to take, because the company is turning you down as a person. We can always say we are better than the next guy. That is what your profile on Sponsorhouse should say. Maybe it doesn't say you are better. We all in our own minds think we are the better rider, even when it is not true.
By going and saying Sponsorhouse sucks you are in essence killing the messenger.
Also saying people are buying sponsorhips by upgrading is not correct. Really the only accounts that have a major difference are the Basic and Premium. Sponsors are going to like the premium accounts because the canidates can post recent news and stay in contact with them. These are reasons you get sponsored. Sponsors want to know what is going on and how you like their product and so forth. would I want to sponsor the rider that says he will give me reports and updates? Or do I want to sponsor the rider that already has a outlet to give me reports and updates that I can easily check along with my other riders. Maybe you have another way of giving feedback and keeping sponsors up to date with what is going on. This should be made very clear in your resume.
I for one want to upgrade my account because it will be a easy way to keep all of my racing info in one place. I just haven't yet because I need the money elsewhere. I really like the idea of going to one website to contact my sponsors, order product, have info on how things are going, and keep my resume updated. I can be very disorganized and Sponsorhouse makes things easier.
Hi..my name is Dexter , I'm selfish and don't race but still use my hook-ups to get stuff cheap and hate on people who try to do the same.........dexter said:
