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Specialized SX trail II??

PepperJester

Monkey
Jul 9, 2004
798
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Wolfville NS
Bicyclist said:
Um no. The longer stroke would give you a steep HA and a high BB. Plus the clearance issue would be worse if anything.

The problem w/ a 3" stroke on the SXT is the lack of interchangability with other shocks. I.E. good luck finding a compatible shock.

yes I know abou the head angle and bb issues. my thought was that if some used a 3.0 with out going to a longer e-t-e you would risk hitting the wheel/link on the frame when under compression. If you boost the e-t-e aswell the rim starts farther out and will compress to the same spot as with the stock shock.

Thou I wonder if the coil would hit when extended when using the 9.25?
 

gmac

Monkey
Apr 6, 2002
471
0
I'm not saying I don't want a Trail SX II (I do). Or that Specialized isn't a good company...

I'm defending Santa Cruz. Yes, you wait for the bike. But my Bullit has been bombproof (I've only seen one break it was hella old w/ a huge fork and taking major DH abuse).

My story w/ SCB CS: when I wanted to replace my old 00' front end due to a concern it COULD break (old style frame not approved for >6" DC fork). SCB sold me a new front end for next to nothing. Then they sold me a new rear so it would match. BAM ! a new frame at a ridiculous price. So I can't understand why they have the " difficult to deal w/ " e-reputation. My guess is it is some hater(s) hyperposting nonsense. Never be afraid to buy from them.

Anyway I have about a dozen pics saved to my desktop of the SX II. I will buy one once I find the right deal on a small frame I can swap into. It is so smooth looking. And I can't wait to get my hands on one outside a shop parking lot.

Food for thought: no more SX Trail----> 2007 Demo 6 on the way ? They are 1" away now w/ the Demo 7

Anyone else think this might happen ?
 

markk

Chimp
Dec 15, 2004
42
0
Santa Cruz
Stop doing big drops to flat landings if you don't want a broken frame.:nopity:

The SX Trail is very strong and should last a long time if you don't ride like a cave man. Find a tranny.
 

WaveDude

Chimp
Sep 7, 2001
77
0
TX
PepperJester said:
I have only seen one of the new style Enduro's with a broken stay and that was off a huge drop, it was not one of the SXTrails either.

my stays are good so far :)
I've seen in person two broken SX Trails, mine and a friend's. I've also seen pics of 5 or 6 others over on MTBR in the Specialized forum. The '05 Enduro line (which includes the SX Trail) has problems with the left-side chainstay--they all tend to crack or break in that exact spot. I'm a little concerned now because the '06 is supposed to have beefed up stays (my replacement stay is thicker than the orignial) and now I've seen a pic of one of those broken too.

Keep an eye on yours. They ususally start as a hairline crack along the weld on the INSIDE (near the tire) of the stay.
 

ragin-sagin

Monkey
Oct 2, 2003
390
0
NZ
WaveDude said:
Keep an eye on yours. They ususally start as a hairline crack along the weld on the INSIDE (near the tire) of the stay.
Funny you say that...I have an 05 trail sx that developed a crack in that exact location. It seemed odd to me that the inside of the stay would crack, I would figure the top and bottom surface of the stay are under the most stress.
I just figured it was from one of my harder crashes, perhaps the swingarm getting a big sideload during a tumble. Nonetheless, it took 3 days to get a new part, no questions asked. Two thumbs up for customer service on that one.
 

preppie

Monkey
Aug 30, 2002
379
0
Europe
WaveDude said:
I'm a little concerned now because the '06 is supposed to have beefed up stays (my replacement stay is thicker than the orignial) and now I've seen a pic of one of those broken too.
Are you sure that the 06 SX trail chain/seat stays are beefed up?

The pic of the broken 06 SXT is from a rider that goes big on rough and rocky terrain and is hard on his material.
Also notice the dual crown.
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
0
SC, CA
BIGHIT756 said:
the bike really isnt designed for a dual crown fork...but yes..the 06 has beefed up stays...they shouldnt be a problem unless you are a really careless/rough rider
yes it is designed for a dual-crown fork. There is a sticker on the frame that says "accepts dual-crown forks up to 170mm travel".
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
0
SC, CA
If a frame can handle a dual-crown fork then it can also handle as single-crown fork no problem. The bike has come with both the 66 and the Fox Van but it can handle anything under 170 mm single or dual—period.
 

Bicyclist

Turbo Monkey
Apr 4, 2004
10,152
2
SB
punkassean said:
If a frame can handle a dual-crown fork then it can also handle as single-crown fork no problem. The bike has come with both the 66 and the Fox Van but it can handle anything under 170 mm single or dual—period.
Correct.
 

ecbmxer

Chimp
Jul 18, 2006
64
0
Morgantown, West Virginia
I'm getting an SX trail I here in a few days and was just reading up on some old threads. You know to increase the rear travel (if you wanted to) you could use the 9.0 eye-to-eye with a 3" stroke and run a 24" rear wheel. It would actually just slack it out just a tad more, maybe better for DH in combination with the travel. I don't think its something I want to do, just a thought. Also, what is the reason why you can't go over 170mm of travel for the fork?
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
0
SC, CA
The stock 167mm of travel is plenty for most anything as proven by Claw and Strait. If you (not you specifically) want more travel get a Demo 7 or 8. As far as the fork you could probably get away with 180mm but again, why? I run my Enduro with a 160mm fork and switch between 150 and 167mm rear and the bike is perfect for just about everything.

I think people get hung up on travel numbers when the geometry and overall ride matter so much more....
 

ecbmxer

Chimp
Jul 18, 2006
64
0
Morgantown, West Virginia
I think the travel is gonna be fine for me, I was just reading through and figured that was a way to get more travel if one so desired. Do you have an SX I or II? If you have a I, what are your thoughts about the 66F fork? I can't even find it on the Marz website even under the OEM fork section. What all adjustments does it have and do you have any setup tips (such as internal adjustments, oil weight, etc)?Thanks!
 

punkassean

Turbo Monkey
Feb 3, 2002
4,561
0
SC, CA
I run an '07 Fox 36 TALAS. Best setup tip I have for a VF is to ditch it and get an RC2X. ;) J/K, if the rebound is too fast put in heavier oil, that's about all you can do AFAIK.