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Kevin

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Its not Islam, its the people who interpetate it wrong...
Theres good and bad people in every religion. I do admit that there is a lot of wrong interpetation in the Islam but to blame it on the religion itself is a bit too much With doing this you are accusing a lot of very peacefull and caring Muslims.
Think a little bit further before you post stuff or even before you jump to your own conclusions and try and read a book every omce in a while if you really wanna know whats up.
 

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Kevin said:
Its not Islam, its the people who interpetate it wrong...
Theres good and bad people in every religion. I do admit that there is a lot of wrong interpetation in the Islam but to blame it on the religion itself is a bit too much With doing this you are accusing a lot of very peacefull and caring Muslims.
Think a little bit further before you post stuff or even before you jump to your own conclusions and try and read a book every omce in a while if you really wanna know whats up.
No. It's islam.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Kevin said:
Its not Islam, its the people who interpetate it wrong...
Theres good and bad people in every religion. I do admit that there is a lot of wrong interpetation in the Islam but to blame it on the religion itself is a bit too much With doing this you are accusing a lot of very peacefull and caring Muslims.
Think a little bit further before you post stuff or even before you jump to your own conclusions and try and read a book every omce in a while if you really wanna know whats up.
the thing is how do you interpret "thou shall kill the infidel" as "do not kill the infidel, and invite him over for dinner".

certain religions are way easier to interpret the destructive way....
 

Kevin

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ALEXIS_DH said:
certain religions are way easier to interpret the destructive way....
There you said it yourself.
Some people practice it the right way and some dont.
Christians dont exactly have a clean sheet but I never hear anyone say that Christianity is bad. Especially in the US where everything revolves around god. ****, even Bush is fighting an illegal war in the name of god.
War on terror my ass, everyone in their right mind knows what that war is about.

I do agree however that religion is the reason for a lot of fighting and bloodshed but its not just Muslims, we (the west) just like to think of ourselves as superior to anyone else thats different from us.
Nowadays (thanks to the US) the whole "west" is practically at war with the rest of the world.(Arabs, Chinese, Korea etc etc) Weapons of mass destruction are being built everywhere again like were heading for a second cold war. (the battle for arms lead by the US ofcourse)
Only this time Im not too sure if its gonna be a "cold" war anymore...

I think its pretty hypocritical and stuck up too say Islam is the root of all evil while you support a country thats bombing innocent people for oil and money.
 

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Kevin said:
There you said it yourself.
Some people practice it the right way and some dont.
Christians dont exactly have a clean sheet but I never hear anyone say that Christianity is bad. Especially in the US where everything revolves around god.
Hang around here a little more often. I believe there are at least a couple of people here who have made the argument in the past that all religions are inherently evil.
 

Kevin

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Silver said:
Hang around here a little more often. I believe there are at least a couple of people here who have made the argument in the past that all religions are inherently evil.
And I share that opinion more or less.
I just think its ignorant and plain stupid to post some crap about Islam generating hate against Muslims.

Changleen said:
Christianity is bad.
Your not the avarage US citizen so that doesnt count.
 

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schnarfyschnarf said:
good points all around, but how many buddist(sp?) suicide bombers do you know about? christian suicide bombers?
Christians don't need to be suicide bombers. They have the tanks, planes guns and other assorted technology that allows them to kill perfectly well from a distance with far less chance of harm to themselves.
 

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BeerDemon said:
I say it all the time. Christianity sucks ass.

However, as bad as it is, you don't see Christians or really any other religions out mass murdering each other on a daily basis.

Umm?? Bush is a devout christian and once upon a time claimed that...

Bush said: 'God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them.'"
So far over 100,000 Iraqis have been killed in this christian/"lets spend the peace dividend" war.

Yes I admit a bit of a moot point but still........ :nopity:
 

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Kevin said:
Its not Islam, its the people who interpetate it wrong...
Theres good and bad people in every religion. I do admit that there is a lot of wrong interpetation in the Islam but to blame it on the religion itself is a bit too much With doing this you are accusing a lot of very peacefull and caring Muslims.
Think a little bit further before you post stuff or even before you jump to your own conclusions and try and read a book every omce in a while if you really wanna know whats up.
The religions that have come from that part of the world are steeped in blood and based on war gods. It's probably the peace-loving people who are misinterpreting the scriptures.
 

Old Man G Funk

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schnarfyschnarf said:
good points all around, but how many buddist(sp?) suicide bombers do you know about? christian suicide bombers?
The IRA? Oklahoma City?

I know they aren't necessarily "suicide" bombers, but terrorists none-the-less.
 

BurlyShirley

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Old Man G Funk said:
The IRA? Oklahoma City?

I know they aren't necessarily "suicide" bombers, but terrorists none-the-less.
I dont think OK city was religious in nature. Was it? How religiously motivated were the IRA?
 

Old Man G Funk

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BurlyShirley said:
I dont think OK city was religious in nature. Was it? How religiously motivated were the IRA?
I'm not making the point that they were religiously motivated, but that they were Xtians. It sounded like the commenter was hinting that Xtians aren't terrorists and that it's only Muslims who engage in that sort of activity.
 

BurlyShirley

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Old Man G Funk said:
I'm not making the point that they were religiously motivated, but that they were Xtians. It sounded like the commenter was hinting that Xtians aren't terrorists and that it's only Muslims who engage in that sort of activity.
I think the obvious difference is that today's terrorism is done "In the name of Allah" Therefore the religion is somewhat to blame. I dont think you can make that connection w/ OK city.
 

Old Man G Funk

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BurlyShirley said:
I think the obvious difference is that today's terrorism is done "In the name of Allah" Therefore the religion is somewhat to blame. I dont think you can make that connection w/ OK city.
I wasn't making that connection. Once again, I was simply pointing out the Xtians make good terrorists too.

If you want to make that connection, I think it has already been made with Bush's comments about how he invaded Iraq in god's name.
 

Kevin

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I think weve allready astablished the fact that religion sucks so im not arguing with anyone about that.
Also Bush is killing thousands in the name of god and I do believe he's christian.
Ireland's history is about as bloody as that of the middle east and lets not forget the middle ages when plenty of people were killed on cruisades. The coin allways has two side's and its not just the side the media likes to show everyone. Especially in the US where the media is controlled by the same men (W's posse) who are making money out of the war on terror...
 

Kevin

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N8 said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


:rofl:
Seriously N8, have you ever actually read anything other then a book about a little engine that could?
For your information FOX is NOT, and I repeat NOT a very reliable newssourse...
Stop making an ass out of yourself and get informed and educated while the world is still around.


fluff said:
I dunno, I reckon it wouldn't be hard to make a good case about that.
That case has allready been made several times.
Im not making this stuff up, its all real.
The fact that people like N8 are to ignorant too know about any of this stuff is because they have their heads up their asses and theyre too busy following the leader...
 

Old Man G Funk

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Kevin said:
Seriously N8, have you ever actually read anything other then a book about a little engine that could?
For your information FOX is NOT, and I repeat NOT a very reliable newssourse...
Stop making an ass out of yourself and get informed and educated while the world is still around.




That case has allready been made several times.
Im not making this stuff up, its all real.
The fact that people like N8 are to ignorant too know about any of this stuff is because they have their heads up their asses and theyre too busy following the leader...
I think N8 has read The Pet Goat.
 

Kevin

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Are you thinking N8 is actually an undercover president on a mtb forum?
They obviously share some qualities.....
Too bad reading to little children doesnt count as actual reading.
One would have to understand the words and not just read them out loud.

:rofl:
 

BurlyShirley

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Old Man G Funk said:
I wasn't making that connection. Once again, I was simply pointing out the Xtians make good terrorists too.
Well for that matter, ANYONE can make a good terrorist, so what's your point? The idea here is that Islam is NOT a religion of peace. It has text in its holy books which spell out LITERALLY ideas which are NOT peaceful.
That GWB says god talks to him is disturbing in its own right, but completely unrelated. It baffles me that he thinks he has to do god's work, because you know, if there was a god, he could just smite all the terrists and be done w/ it, but whatever. They're all nutcases if you ask me, but the problem at hand lies with muslim terrists.
 

Kevin

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BurlyShirley said:
Well for that matter, ANYONE can make a good terrorist, so what's your point? The idea here is that Islam is NOT a religion of peace. It has text in its holy books which spell out LITERALLY ideas which are NOT peaceful.
That GWB says god talks to him is disturbing in its own right, but completely unrelated. It baffles me that he thinks he has to do god's work, because you know, if there was a god, he could just smite all the terrists and be done w/ it, but whatever. They're all nutcases if you ask me, but the problem at hand lies with muslim terrists.

Have you read the Quran?
If so you are probably aware that there are numerous translations available that have developped throughout the centuries.
Who is to say how it has been interpreted? They were obviously translated by human beings who are not known for doing this stuff right. Take the Katholic church as an example, the whole religion is based on facts that are totally made up by men who have lied about all sorts of stuff to their followers.
There are plenty of muslims who say that Islam is about peace and that no such thing is litterally stated in the Quran.
Therefore if you are absolutely sure about this stuff then go ahead and post **** about ALL Islam, but if your not try and do a little research, read a book or even visit a mosque before running your mouth...

P'z
 

BurlyShirley

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Kevin said:
Have you read the Quran?
If so you are probably aware that there are numerous translations available that have developped throughout the centuries.
Who is to say how it has been interpreted? They were obviously translated by human beings who are not known for doing this stuff right. Take the Katholic church as an example, the whole religion is based on facts that are totally made up by men who have lied about all sorts of stuff to their followers.
There are plenty of muslims who say that Islam is about peace and that no such thing is litterally stated in the Quran.
Therefore if you are absolutely sure about this stuff then go ahead and post **** about ALL Islam, but if your not try and do a little research, read a book or even visit a mosque before running your mouth...

P'z

Well technically its all made up by people since there is no god, therefore I dont see why one translation is any more valid than another. What matters is what people are listening to and why? Obviously many muslims are following somebody's interpretation who PROMOTES violence and that's what we're talking about, fella.
 

BurlyShirley

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Kevin said:
Thats why Im saying that a lot of Muslims are about peace and NOT about killing all infidels as the media want us to believe...
Just out of curiousity, how many Muslims do you know personally?
I did know like 8 but they all blew themselves up because I ate some bacon this one time.
 

BurlyShirley

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Kevin said:
Thats why Im saying that a lot of Muslims are about peace and NOT about killing all infidels as the media want us to believe...
Just out of curiousity, how many Muslims do you know personally?
Are you telling me that there isnt plenty of "Kill the infidel" stuff in the qoran?
 

Old Man G Funk

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Kevin said:
Are you thinking N8 is actually an undercover president on a mtb forum?
They obviously share some qualities.....
Too bad reading to little children doesnt count as actual reading.
One would have to understand the words and not just read them out loud.

:rofl:
Nah, I was just pointing out that any book that Bush couldn't put down even while planes were taking out buildings is probably on N8's reading list.