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Borneo

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Mar 22, 2004
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Yeah, I know it's subjective. But, I only get there about once a year and I want to put together a good 4-5 hour day with at least one trip to the top and most of the goods. Not afraid to climb and will be on the 5x5 so drops under 4' are fine. usually going in from Padden but coming in from Birch this time.
Last year was:
Up Pigs, across Kaiser, up Keystone, play on Wonderwall, Wonderland/Evo,Woopsie, up upper Pig, Kaiser, Oly, 2.5, Purple Heart, Fire Ring, el pollo, Bob's... Yeah, I know we missed Shawn's, 911, Kung Fu, Dans, etc.

Also, where is Devilcross and is that the open jump line with Arsenio in the backround that I see posted from time to time? Dwaugh, care to fill it in?
 
allsk8sno

allsk8sno

Turbo Monkey
Jun 6, 2002
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are you speaking of SST perhaps? that trail is sweet! but only has a couple jumps, the main one being a hip in a clearcut, runs down from arsenio to the lower ridge or close to that. anyways SST was built last fall/winter and it flows pretty well and is fast and pumpy, keeps you on your toes for sure!
 
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Borneo

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Mar 22, 2004
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Yeah. Probably SST. Or, the "old easy way up" on the old Galbraithmt.com maps. Just looking for a good 4-5 hour day with the most bang for the buck from the locals who ride it all the time.
 
Skookum

Skookum

bikey's is cool
Jul 26, 2002
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i always like doing Whoopsie Whoodle, starting at the bend in the road right below the top tower. Following that all the way down to what used to be called Prison Sex.

i like the new trail Oly as well, coming off of the tower, i like the steeper approach... i've heard they've connected that trail to Kaiser too i think so that would be really cool.

Man i think i could go on and on there's alot of cool trails out there, and hell i haven't been there in a long while i'm sure there's more new goods.
 
TtotheJ

TtotheJ

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Jan 23, 2005
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Ok since it sounds like you like climbing singletrack as much as descending here's my recommended route: Up Miranda/Ridge, Cedar Dust then over to Intestine and up that, then Cabin Trail to 187 then Oly, Keystone/Old Dirty Sock, Wonderland. Then from the towers take Evo then head back up and hit Whoopsie then up the Pigs to either Shawns (now called "Cheech and Chongs Wild Ride") or 911. Then from the bottom of either of those take the new connector trail back over to the end of Cedar Dust. From there I would take the short road ride to SST. SST puts you out at the middle of the Ridge so if you're feeling pooped you can just finish down Ridge/Miranda or if you have some energy left go back up the Ridge and finish on Bob's and Karma.
That route would definitely eat up alot of time and hit some of the best trails on the mountain IMO.
 
geolover

geolover

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Apr 1, 2006
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TtotheJ said:
Ok since it sounds like you like climbing singletrack as much as descending here's my recommended route: Up Miranda/Ridge, Cedar Dust then over to Intestine and up that, then Cabin Trail to 187 then Oly, Keystone/Old Dirty Sock, Wonderland. Then from the towers take Evo then head back up and hit Whoopsie then up the Pigs to either Shawns (now called "Cheech and Chongs Wild Ride") or 911. Then from the bottom of either of those take the new connector trail back over to the end of Cedar Dust. From there I would take the short road ride to SST. SST puts you out at the middle of the Ridge so if you're feeling pooped you can just finish down Ridge/Miranda or if you have some energy left go back up the Ridge and finish on Bob's and Karma.
That route would definitely eat up alot of time and hit some of the best trails on the mountain IMO.
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Borneo
I second what TtotheJ had to say. You would hit many of the best trails on Galby with that route. BTW, you'll also be desperate for beer and food at the end of the ride.
 
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Borneo

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Mar 22, 2004
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Thanks. All good stuff. Unlike Skooks, I'm not a big fan of Whoopsie Though the view can be very nice. Especially if coming in from Birch. And, I've never done Dan's because we always did Whoopsie/Prison Love in the past to Pigs.

Surprised no one is mentioning the Monkeys, Kaiser, El Pollo, FFC, or KFT as those "were" standards of days past. Have they fallen into disrepair?

And, the new lower Evo sound great down to Kaiser. But, then we miss Dan's....

Well, if it's pouring this weekend, I won't be going anyways...

Wet wood....bad.:bonk:
 
geolover

geolover

Chimp
Apr 1, 2006
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You could do El Pollo instead of either 911 or Shawn's. It is still a good rip.

Kaiser is also in very good condition right now and fun.

The new lower evo to Kaiser is not "broken in" yet. It still needs to be shaped a little...and some rain. It will be a sweet trail though.

Don't forget Candy. I love that trail...rode it today. I like to include it in most of my rides recently.

cheers
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Hey, 8' is WAY major to me and my 5x5 bike...... Especially if the tranny isn't very good.
You got to remember that the vast majority of bikers probably just ride around that one and live another day to make a mortgage payment.
 
dwaugh

dwaugh

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May 23, 2002
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You asked for my input so here it is: go ride and have fun, see where the day takes you. :biggrin:

Did you say when you are going? I'll go if it is sometime in the next few weeks. I'll reread the post again and see if you said.....

EDIT: I forgot to post about Devilcross. It's a good trail if you want a good all mountain/XC ride down the hill. A lot of the trail surface is bare rock, offering something different. After that trail you hook up with the Three Bears, which make for a long ride, and may be slightly less overgrown at this time of year. I'll check on them sooner or later. After those trails you ride half of the V-trail and hit SST. Now, the only one problem with this explanation is that Devilcross or the Three Bears are not on any maps. (If it makes a difference, the trails that make up the Three Bears used to be called Chainsaw Massacre. The trails have been fixed and are now much better than they were). If you want further information on how to get to Devilcross, etc., or if you would like to hook up with me to show you around (if you want that route), post here or send me a PM and I will answer ASAP.
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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This Sunday. Bare rock sounds cool.
If I recall, Chainsaw was/is part of the "Arsenio Spur" on the GalbyMT maps. Or, was that part a few years ago.

Thanks for all the info. The bummer about being a couple hour drive away is that I only get up there once a year and it's usually tough to get everyone to make more than one full trip to the top. So, I end up alternating on which routes I go on every other year.
 
dwaugh

dwaugh

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May 23, 2002
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Borneo said:
This Sunday. Bare rock sounds cool.
If I recall, Chainsaw was/is part of the "Arsenio Spur" on the GalbyMT maps. Or, was that part a few years ago.

Thanks for all the info. The bummer about being a couple hour drive away is that I only get up there once a year and it's usually tough to get everyone to make more than one full trip to the top. So, I end up alternating on which routes I go on every other year.
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I'll be able to ride on Sunday, send me a PM if you want me to lead.

I'm not sure what Arsenio Spur is... I think it is just a road that was given a name on that map. Also, as a warning, the Three Bears (all three trails combined) make up what is probably the longest trail on the mountain, and it has not been ridden by very many people since it is not too well known. Some parts of the trail may be a bit rough, or not finished, but overall the trail is not too bad if you want to ride some XC before going on SST. I think I'll ride it tomorrow and see what condition the trail is in.
 
allsk8sno

allsk8sno

Turbo Monkey
Jun 6, 2002
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BikerBoy28 said:
You consider the biggest drop (8ft) to be major? I've never done it but its not major.
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the biggest drop on evo is only 6' dunno where you got 8, and its fine on a 5 and 5 as long as its sprung for such things, i hit the first stump on my old 5" stinky all the time,i bottomed it softly but it was my all mountain bike
 
kona-ryder

kona-ryder

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Jul 18, 2006
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Above you on the podium.
TtotheJ said:
Ok since it sounds like you like climbing singletrack as much as descending here's my recommended route: Up Miranda/Ridge, Cedar Dust then over to Intestine and up that, then Cabin Trail to 187 then Oly, Keystone/Old Dirty Sock, Wonderland. Then from the towers take Evo then head back up and hit Whoopsie then up the Pigs to either Shawns (now called "Cheech and Chongs Wild Ride") or 911. Then from the bottom of either of those take the new connector trail back over to the end of Cedar Dust. From there I would take the short road ride to SST. SST puts you out at the middle of the Ridge so if you're feeling pooped you can just finish down Ridge/Miranda or if you have some energy left go back up the Ridge and finish on Bob's and Karma.
That route would definitely eat up alot of time and hit some of the best trails on the mountain IMO.
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That sounds like the best bang fer your buck. Might wanna throw SST or Dans in there though
 
TtotheJ

TtotheJ

Monkey
Jan 23, 2005
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B'ham, WA
kona-ryder said:
That sounds like the best bang fer your buck. Might wanna throw SST or Dans in there though
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If you reread the post you'll notice I recommended SST. As for Dan's its a good trail but not necessarily a "must do". I do think that SST is a must do, especially for those who haven't done it yet.
 
erikkellison

erikkellison

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Jan 28, 2004
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Denver, CO
Hmm.
Dude, that drop is at least 8'. The first drop is at least 6' I stood on the tranny lip of the first stump drop to measure it, and the ladder was level with my head. The second one is minimum 8' I'd say. The trannies aren't great, but they work. And yeah, it's not major. Although some guy on Pinkbike who was selling his rear shock was quoted at saying that it's not been used on anything major, only drops up to 20 feet. I guess we're all at a different level.

Maybe y'all aren't into this, but while Dan's isn't all that special, it's cool because it connects you to Flying Squirrel (not sure if that's been renamed as it seems that everything else has a new name - could be because a bunch of new riders who did some work decided to rename instead of learning the original name?), and I would not miss Flying Squirrel. It's kinda like a DH course.
I'd definitely hit SST, Evolution and 911 as well. I wouldn't feel left out if you missed Shawn's as there's so much work done on that thing that if you don't know it, you're going to be walking a large part of it. It is a work of art though, but maybe more for people who ride it often. And coming down, I'd hit Bob's as the lower Ridge sucks now. And that way you can hit the Kenoyer Connector too, and it's gloriously misplaced cheese wedges.
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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First of all, that stump drops are easily over 8' to the landing zone. We almost had a big oops on the lower one and one wreck on the upper one. Both do look pretty doable with a bigger bike though. I went way out past the ramp on the stinger and, well, got stung when my rear derailleur hanger blew up on the landing. So, I was limping down on my bent spare. And, that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it...

Otherwise, the rain held off enough and the place was more crowded than I've ever seen it.

Stopping to session stuff meant that we had to cut it short so I did not piss off my better half too much. The rain started in true good karma fashion, just as we had packed up and were leaving the lot.
Ridge,Cedar Dust, Polka Dot, Intestine, Esophagus, Lower Arsenio, Cabin,187, Oly, Keystone, NN, Wonderland,(the wind was howling up there but one of us took a different line offf the Wonderwall above the stump and stuck it. Looks like a better line too) Evo, Dan's, Luge, Brick Pig,Kaiser,Oly,Pick up Sticks, Fire Circle, El Pollo, FFC, Bob's, Karma and out. (I had a blast on the Karma (Kenoyer) berms and small jumps)

Sweet day and great trail conditions. You guys are so lucky to have that hill in your back yards.
 
EOBF

EOBF

Monkey
Mar 26, 2005
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Bellingham, WA
erikkellison said:
Hmm.
Dude, that drop is at least 8'. The first drop is at least 6' I stood on the tranny lip of the first stump drop to measure it, and the ladder was level with my head. The second one is minimum 8' I'd say. The trannies aren't great, but they work. And yeah, it's not major. Although some guy on Pinkbike who was selling his rear shock was quoted at saying that it's not been used on anything major, only drops up to 20 feet. I guess we're all at a different level.

Maybe y'all aren't into this, but while Dan's isn't all that special, it's cool because it connects you to Flying Squirrel (not sure if that's been renamed as it seems that everything else has a new name - could be because a bunch of new riders who did some work decided to rename instead of learning the original name?), and I would not miss Flying Squirrel. It's kinda like a DH course.
I'd definitely hit SST, Evolution and 911 as well. I wouldn't feel left out if you missed Shawn's as there's so much work done on that thing that if you don't know it, you're going to be walking a large part of it. It is a work of art though, but maybe more for people who ride it often. And coming down, I'd hit Bob's as the lower Ridge sucks now. And that way you can hit the Kenoyer Connector too, and it's gloriously misplaced cheese wedges.
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Are you refering to "luge"? Because those so called new riders are responsible for most of the fun new things you see up on the hill. Changing a trail from a pile of crap washed out rutted road to a fast downhill with some berms and small kickers warrants a name change.
 
erikkellison

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
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Denver, CO
Dude, I wasn't hating on the trailbuilders, I was just expressing frustration at the continual change of names on Galbraith. It seems out of control. If you build a new trail, give it a name, if you remodel, either keep the name or modify it slightly. It's harder work to cut a trail than to build some berms, and it's not that fair to the original trail builders to screw them by renaming because you remodeled or did some maintenance.
But, that's beside the point. That rutted out creek bed was super fun, and debatably more fun and challenging to the cleaned up line. I certainly don't think that maintenance, some berms and small jumps merits a name change, but that's just me. If you want to name a trail, build a trail.
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Erik I'm with you 100% on this one (though I will say I liked Karma/Kenoyer as a fun little finisher...). As a builder, I try to name my trails from the get go if I feel like it and even hang a sign on it so people get used to the name. When I hear someone else calling it another name I just usually shakle my head. But, it seems that's just the way things go sometimes. At Galbraith, it looks like there's some bigger issues with new/old builders and the names on the WHIMPS map and the old Galbraithmt.com map are different all over the place. It's nice to see some new wood signs up in the trees at the entrance of several trails though.

"Luge" is no where near "Karma/Kenoyer connector" and not nearly the same trail.
Though the double name standard there is pretty stupid.
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Duvall
Well, very nice signs then! More are needed but the ones we found helped out a lot. I'll need to make some of those for "other places" nearby. PM me on how you router them out. Trillium has no beef with you nailing them into the trees?
 
erikkellison

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
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Denver, CO
I do like the signs, thanks Dwaugh. Just change some of them to the original names! :) What's with the mile long sign for Cheech and Chong's [insert novel length adjective/noun combo here]? What happened to Shaun's? Is this yet another case of the same thing?
And as for Kenoyer Connector, I like it, but it seems that there was some confusion? I was talking about Flying Squirrel, it branches off of Dan's Trail. It's super fun smooth, but was also super fun when rough. Both good trails.
I for one am not going to be referring to trails by their new names. Fight the power!
Borneo, PM me for where you're talking about. I know a lot of local spots, but I always like hearing about what I'm missing...
 
dwaugh

dwaugh

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May 23, 2002
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erikkellison said:
I do like the signs, thanks Dwaugh. Just change some of them to the original names! :) What's with the mile long sign for Cheech and Chong's [insert novel length adjective/noun combo here]? What happened to Shaun's? Is this yet another case of the same thing?
And as for Kenoyer Connector, I like it, but it seems that there was some confusion? I was talking about Flying Squirrel, it branches off of Dan's Trail. It's super fun smooth, but was also super fun when rough. Both good trails.
I for one am not going to be referring to trails by their new names. Fight the power!
Borneo, PM me for where you're talking about. I know a lot of local spots, but I always like hearing about what I'm missing...
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A lot of the signs I have made are not up yet. I only make them, other people put them up. So far I havent heard about any issues regarding nails in trees. I make them on the 3-axis CNC table at the highschool.

I made a sign that says Shawn's, it has not been put up yet. It looks like they decided to rename the trail and make their own sign. If you havent noticed, all of mine are on cedar and look very much the same in style. :)
 
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Borneo

Turbo Monkey
Mar 22, 2004
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Duvall
Either way, thanks again for making them. Maybe I could get someone here at work to make fancy ones on a 5 axis? Hmmm.
You're tight with Mark, Darren, and the WHIMPS, right? They should be able to tell you what all the "original" names were. That's what they should be. Unless the original builder changed the name themselves.
Back on thread...:) Evo was the best trail on the hill. But, Karma/ Kenoyer was a pleasant surprise for the exit. A fun little rip on what we thought would be a boring out. But, it's all good. Just wish it was closer to home. Thanks for all the good work up there!
 
seand

seand

Monkey
Nov 22, 2003
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seattle
I did a fun loop yesterday during the sunny period. The touchdowns from the bridge drops on Evo were like ice, but man was the ride ear-to-ear grin worthy :)

Started with the Ridge for a nice warm-up climb, headed to cedar, and then across and up to the towers, down wonderland, played at the rocks for a while, back up, down evo, down shawns, back across to firering, down pollo, up to SST, after the last table that has the hip/xfer, I went out to the fireroad, down the ridge to miranda, and back to the car just in time for the downpour to begin.

Love that place.
 
erikkellison

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
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Denver, CO
I was up for a walk there yesterday, and took some pictures. I'll link just a couple though, the ones of the stump drops (with a 6' tall doof in the way), and that sweet ladder bridge on Evo that ends in a jump, just so people can see it.
Oh yeah, anyone find some Uvex sunglasses w/ removable lenses yesterday or today, probably on Kaiser? I walked through it again when it was twilight, and couldn't find them. It's hard w/o a flashlight...


 
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