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Akula_7

Monkey
Nov 15, 2004
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Sick, Graves riding in Schladming made me wet. Clay Porter really (almost) captured the speed of those sections...

And Marc Beaumont almost explained what DH is, almost!

Thanks
 
And Marc Beaumont almost explained what DH is, almost!

Thanks
marc pretty much gave a PERFECT general definition of what DH is, why its so difficult, and why we lke it. for some people it may be different, but i think Marc's explination of DH is awsome! i also like marc weirs thing about riding and not feeling guity about going home and eating like a fat person, cause you know you;ll go out the next day and burn it all off.

CLAY is such a good film maker ! really captures the goods of MTBing :cheers:
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
5,094
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Sand, CA
that was the best 15min 50sec of video i've seen in a while. better then a couple mtb videos i know i've bought and own
 

driftsrfun

Chimp
Sep 14, 2006
93
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paradise
if this video doesnt get you motivated to go ride, then go die, seriously... it captures different forms of mtb and a variety of riders, clay needs a hug!
 

konastab01

Turbo Monkey
Dec 7, 2004
1,221
266
Sick,Jared section on the Downtown totally captures the atmosphere and the feeling of the race.
kyles section is just awesome....
 

shagwell

Monkey
Jun 15, 2004
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graves at schladming was awesome and marc beaumont has just made me wanna ride again after losing the love for a while.. respect.
 

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
918
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Denver, CO
The last guy, I think it was Marc Beaumont, made me sad.
I can't believe that he's out there, verbally motivating kids to not get an education and to just ride your bike instead. And then to contend that he has as much of an education, but in foreign currency and foreign politics as well, is well, stupid. I wonder if he knows what a leverage ratio or a spring rate even is (that's a joke). Seriously though, sure, screw your own education in favor of bikes, but don't encourage others to do the same. It doesn't matter how good of a rider you are. Someday you won't be able to. Then what are you going to do?
 

Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
3,209
584
Durham, NC
The last guy, I think it was Marc Beaumont, made me sad.
I can't believe that he's out there, verbally motivating kids to not get an education and to just ride your bike instead. And then to contend that he has as much of an education, but in foreign currency and foreign politics as well, is well, stupid. I wonder if he knows what a leverage ratio or a spring rate even is (that's a joke). Seriously though, sure, screw your own education in favor of bikes, but don't encourage others to do the same. It doesn't matter how good of a rider you are. Someday you won't be able to. Then what are you going to do?
That wasn't the impression I got at all. I took it as him saying "this is the path I chose." Not that others should choose it as well. He is an extremely gifted bike rider and I don't fault him one bit for doing what he's doing. I know I'd sure rather look back and say "wow, I was world champ (which he is capable of)" instead of "wow, I sure am glad I got a MBA (like a hundred thousand other people)". Life is short.
 

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
918
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Denver, CO
But what do you think kids will see? They won't look at it rationally and see that he chose a very narrow way that may or may not work out for him in the end (lacking foresight?). Kids will see it as an excuse to ride bikes instead of doing homework, especially those that need to do their homework most. Sure, skip college, but at least try hard in HS. If you don't have a HS education, there's not much you can do in this world. And I do seriously doubt his mental capacity, if he didn't really do HS, then how can he understand basic math and english, let alone physics and geometry and algebra and reading comprehension? My point by saying this is to illustrate his lack of ability in pursuing other things than riding a bike. He can't even be a mechanic or a sales rep., let alone an engineer or designer. I don't mean to hate on the profession of mountain biking, but it has always seemed utterly retarded to me to pursue any kind of sport INSTEAD OF education. Sure, pair them, but forego education? At least don't encourage others to make the same mistake.
 

SPDR

Monkey
Apr 21, 2006
180
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Engerland
The last guy, I think it was Marc Beaumont, made me sad.
I can't believe that he's out there, verbally motivating kids to not get an education and to just ride your bike instead. And then to contend that he has as much of an education, but in foreign currency and foreign politics as well, is well, stupid. I wonder if he knows what a leverage ratio or a spring rate even is (that's a joke). Seriously though, sure, screw your own education in favour of bikes, but don't encourage others to do the same. It doesn't matter how good of a rider you are. Someday you won't be able to. Then what are you going to do?
He wasn't "verbally motivating kids to not get an education" - just honestly conveying to the camera the way his life has gone. Pro sportsmen never set out to be “role models”, it’s only a status that is thrust upon them by idiots like yourself that take things too seriously. The “kid with no education” has just come up with one of the most eloquent descriptions of downhill I’ve ever seen, give him a break.

Make your own decisions in life and follow your dreams – they’re all you have.
 

Zach Dank

Turbo Monkey
Jun 28, 2005
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Gnarcal
But what do you think kids will see? They won't look at it rationally and see that he chose a very narrow way that may or may not work out for him in the end (lacking foresight?). Kids will see it as an excuse to ride bikes instead of doing homework, especially those that need to do their homework most. Sure, skip college, but at least try hard in HS. If you don't have a HS education, there's not much you can do in this world. And I do seriously doubt his mental capacity, if he didn't really do HS, then how can he understand basic math and english, let alone physics and geometry and algebra and reading comprehension? My point by saying this is to illustrate his lack of ability in pursuing other things than riding a bike. He can't even be a mechanic or a sales rep., let alone an engineer or designer. I don't mean to hate on the profession of mountain biking, but it has always seemed utterly retarded to me to pursue any kind of sport INSTEAD OF education. Sure, pair them, but forego education? At least don't encourage others to make the same mistake.
Dude, shut up. Not everybody needs to think and act the same as yourself.
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
4,920
17
NM
If you don't have a HS education, there's not much you can do in this world...............

he was honest, that was his words. he was saying what he did.

but , i know where you are coming from. I also know where he is coming from. i dropped out then got me GED when i was 18. There is no reason he could not do that and then off to college for a degree, later in life.

i say good job, he is doing it now! there will time in life for the 9-5 later.

He can't even be a mechanic or a sales rep., let alone an engineer or designer......................
i can think of a lot of DHers now retired that work in the HUGE industry of cycling that had no degree only there incite from racing.
lots have bike shops, some own company, Tomac, lots of inside sale reps and some design stuff for marzocchi, answer, rockshox.
 

daviid

Chimp
Sep 16, 2006
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sick video, i really could watch it every day before i go out and ride..i live in novato, and those trails that weir was on are the ones i ride all the time...also jared graves is a savage....WHAT WAS THE SONG IN THE JARED GRAVES SECTION CALLED...and for a guy without very much of an education, marc prefectly described why we love not just downhilling, but mountain biking in general; something that people have been trying to do for decades...JARED GRAVES SECTION SONG NAME ANYONE???
 

driftsrfun

Chimp
Sep 14, 2006
93
0
paradise
erikkellison your a joke, i met mark and rode with him. he is such a cool guy and smart as well, you don't know him at all and no nothing about him besides that video. what he choose was what he choose it doesn't make it good or bad, tons of tons of people in Austria and everywhere don't go to college or barely finish high school. but that's fine with them they still live a good life. no kid is going to drop out of school and ride his bike everyday, and marc is a big inspiration because he is seizing the day, he is experiencing more in a couple years racing on the world cup circuit than any other college grad working in an office will experience in a lifetime. don't judge just because he in a professional DH racer traveling the world and you are doing nothing...
 

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
918
0
Denver, CO
he was honest, that was his words. he was saying what he did.

but , i know where you are coming from. I also know where he is coming from. i dropped out then got me GED when i was 18. There is no reason he could not do that and then off to college for a degree, later in life.

i say good job, he is doing it now! there will time in life for the 9-5 later.



i can think of a lot of DHers now retired that work in the HUGE industry of cycling that had no degree only there incite from racing.
lots have bike shops, some own company, Tomac, lots of inside sale reps and some design stuff for marzocchi, answer, rockshox.
Good response, fair enough? I suppose he'd be just fine turning around later in life. It's never too late to learn, and I'm sure there are jobs he could do with the experience he does have. My point was simply that it's not good to encourage kids who are still honing their decision-making skills to make one that more often than not turns out bad. It's like most kids trying to make it pro in any sport; good job for trying, but odds are, it's not going to work out. But at least in baseball, the pro's make good money. Unfortunately mountain biking isn't that profitable yet.
And to the rest? Your responses all illustrate that what I said is true. You think I thrust him into the position of a role model? Not likely. I think it's the very kids that will suffer that make him a role model. No pro mountain biker that I've ever heard of is any role model of mine.
Zach: You're right, not everyone needs to think the same as myself, I just hate seeing HS getting easier and kids still not being able to handle it, for whatever reason. I think it's a prerequisite to anything in this world, and it should be. The world will always need janitors though.
daviid, you missed my point. I wasn't insulting Marc for his education, I was commenting on what I thought was a bad role model ideal to put forth: not focusing on at least a HS education. To be able to eloquently describe riding the way he did takes some education, even if it's not formal.
driftsrfun, it appears as though you need to finish your english classes before jumping on a forum and responding. You made the same mistake as daviid, not to mention about 20 others in that one post. But the point is, I was bothered by the ideal he was putting forth more than bagging on his lack of education. Yes, I used his lack thereof as an illustration, but as an illustration that it's a path lacking foresight. However, I guess if you're going to ride pro DH, you had better do it young, you're not going to be able to do it when you're old. Oh, and by the way, I wouldn't be so hasty to think that a college grad with an office job experiences life to any less extent than a WC racer, not only because you're obviously in neither boat, but because it's not necessarily true, and most often, false. And certainly don't pretend to know anything about me, it is quite clear that you don't.
I hope I made myself clear. Education is important, but as Jack Black illustrates in Envy, so is following your passions. The thing is, there's a balance between passion and practicality that we all learn to work with for ourselves. To forego passion for education is prudent, practical, and often pays dividents. To forego education for passion is most often a mistake, and rarely pays dividends.
 

.:Jeenyus:.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 23, 2004
2,831
1
slc
Good response, fair enough? I suppose he'd be just fine turning around later in life. It's never too late to learn, and I'm sure there are jobs he could do with the experience he does have. My point was simply that it's not good to encourage kids who are still honing their decision-making skills to make one that more often than not turns out bad. It's like most kids trying to make it pro in any sport; good job for trying, but odds are, it's not going to work out. But at least in baseball, the pro's make good money. Unfortunately mountain biking isn't that profitable yet.
And to the rest? Your responses all illustrate that what I said is true. You think I thrust him into the position of a role model? Not likely. I think it's the very kids that will suffer that make him a role model. No pro mountain biker that I've ever heard of is any role model of mine.
Zach: You're right, not everyone needs to think the same as myself, I just hate seeing HS getting easier and kids still not being able to handle it, for whatever reason. I think it's a prerequisite to anything in this world, and it should be. The world will always need janitors though.
daviid, you missed my point. I wasn't insulting Marc for his education, I was commenting on what I thought was a bad role model ideal to put forth: not focusing on at least a HS education. To be able to eloquently describe riding the way he did takes some education, even if it's not formal.
driftsrfun, it appears as though you need to finish your english classes before jumping on a forum and responding. You made the same mistake as daviid, not to mention about 20 others in that one post. But the point is, I was bothered by the ideal he was putting forth more than bagging on his lack of education. Yes, I used his lack thereof as an illustration, but as an illustration that it's a path lacking foresight. However, I guess if you're going to ride pro DH, you had better do it young, you're not going to be able to do it when you're old. Oh, and by the way, I wouldn't be so hasty to think that a college grad with an office job experiences life to any less extent than a WC racer, not only because you're obviously in neither boat, but because it's not necessarily true, and most often, false. And certainly don't pretend to know anything about me, it is quite clear that you don't.
I hope I made myself clear. Education is important, but as Jack Black illustrates in Envy, so is following your passions. The thing is, there's a balance between passion and practicality that we all learn to work with for ourselves. To forego passion for education is prudent, practical, and often pays dividents. To forego education for passion is most often a mistake, and rarely pays dividends.

Don't try and force your views down other peoples throats, it sure as hell does not work.
 

driftsrfun

Chimp
Sep 14, 2006
93
0
paradise
exactly, and what do you have to do to qualify or be good enough to post on a public forum? as long as you understand what i am saying and feel dumb for stating anything in the first place, then thats all i needed to do. an office job is great for somepeople, but you will never get the same experience as what he is getting now, live life the way you want while you can, tomarrow you could be gone and it sure would suck to go out doing a 9-5, when you could of been livin it up around the world, or whatever you choose. dont talk like you know him, like he couldnt do anything else is life besides riding a bike come on, leave your opinions to yourself and dont try and make people feel one way about things. if they dont see things the way you do that do, dont force it, you have a lot to learn, your not worth my time...
 

erikkellison

Monkey
Jan 28, 2004
918
0
Denver, CO
I don't feel dumb, so I guess you have work to do :)
But, RM is teaching me to keep my opinions to myselves and my friends (who tolerate me better) because there are apparently people on here who DON'T understand where I'm coming from and CAN'T relate to what I'm saying. Most importantly, I am failing at convincing the people that I need to convince, so I guess I should either learn to be more persuasive, or give up trying, on RM at least. I guess I should stick to bikes on a bike website :)
Nice ninja edit :jeenyus:
 

skinny mike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 24, 2005
6,415
0
i never realized how unbelievably smooth graves is. the video did a good job of showing the speed of the riders.
 

rideagainst

Monkey
Apr 8, 2004
183
0
CA
sick video, i really could watch it every day before i go out and ride..i live in novato, and those trails that weir was on are the ones i ride all the time...also jared graves is a savage....WHAT WAS THE SONG IN THE JARED GRAVES SECTION CALLED...and for a guy without very much of an education, marc prefectly described why we love not just downhilling, but mountain biking in general; something that people have been trying to do for decades...JARED GRAVES SECTION SONG NAME ANYONE???
Hilltop Hoods- not sure of song name. If i had to guess i'd say 'Feel the Vibe.'
 

.:Jeenyus:.

Turbo Monkey
Feb 23, 2004
2,831
1
slc
I don't feel dumb, so I guess you have work to do :)
But, RM is teaching me to keep my opinions to myselves and my friends (who tolerate me better) because there are apparently people on here who DON'T understand where I'm coming from and CAN'T relate to what I'm saying. Most importantly, I am failing at convincing the people that I need to convince, so I guess I should either learn to be more persuasive, or give up trying, on RM at least. I guess I should stick to bikes on a bike website :)
Nice ninja edit :jeenyus:
Another option: Ponder what EVERYONE on this board is saying and maybe try and incorporate it into your thought process.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to teach you new concepts.

PS, ninja edits rule. :busted:
 

bdamschen

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2005
3,377
156
Spreckels, CA
For me it wasn't so much Marc's section that made me want to quit my job and do nothing but ride as it was Wier's. Wier talking about how he was so glad that he didn't have to sit behind a desk all day, and could instead go ride for a living seriously made me want to go live out of a van some where and just ride.

I would say that any of these guys could be some kind of bad influence on kids. They're all pro, some very young, and to do what they do, you don't really need a college education, you just need to ride a LOT.
 

Mugger

Monkey
Dec 16, 2005
171
0
Brisbane, Australia
sick video, i really could watch it every day before i go out and ride..i live in novato, and those trails that weir was on are the ones i ride all the time...also jared graves is a savage....WHAT WAS THE SONG IN THE JARED GRAVES SECTION CALLED...and for a guy without very much of an education, marc prefectly described why we love not just downhilling, but mountain biking in general; something that people have been trying to do for decades...JARED GRAVES SECTION SONG NAME ANYONE???
Hilltop hoods - Recapturing the Vibe
:banana: :banana:
Does anyone know the song in the Kyle Strait Section?
:banana: :banana: