888rc on an IH 7point?

If you put the 888 into the 7inch mode, it should be fine. Marzocchi's axle to crown height is abnormally high though, so it still may rake it out some.

I ran a 7" 888rc (2005) all of this season on my 7point with the stock lower crown and Go-Ride Switch top/stem. The fork matches very nicely with the bike, esp. with a Roco, but I wanted things a little slacker. This fall, I switched to an 8" version of the same fork. It feels maybe a little too slack with the stock lower crown but I planned on having to replace it the lower crown with a flat one before next season anyway. Maybe the 7" with stock corwn or an 8" aftermarket/flat crowns are the ebst options.

toby

kona-ryder said:

If you put the 888 into the 7inch mode, it should be fine. Marzocchi's axle to crown height is abnormally high though, so it still may rake it out some.

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554mm is not abnormally high for a 170mm fork. In fact, marzocchi makes some of the shortest axle to crown forks for the amount of travel..for the last few years. 555 for my 66 with 170mm of travel. The fox 36 for comparission has 160mm of travel, and is exactly 10mm shorter, so same axle to crown for the amount of travel. The 170mm 888 is slightly shorter than that.

Perhaps you're still stuck in 2004?

Jm_ said:

554mm is not abnormally high for a 170mm fork. In fact, marzocchi makes some of the shortest axle to crown forks for the amount of travel..for the last few years. 555 for my 66 with 170mm of travel. The fox 36 for comparission has 160mm of travel, and is exactly 10mm shorter, so same axle to crown for the amount of travel. The 170mm 888 is slightly shorter than that.

Perhaps you're still stuck in 2004?

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I dont know where you are getting 554mm from. After checking the Marzocchi site, the axle to crown height of the 888 in the 7inch mode is 568mm. The axle to crown height of my Boxxer with 8inches is 566mm and you are gaining an inch of travel. Correct me if these numbers are wrong, but I am sure they are not. Also, the 2005 66 were crazy tall. My bro had a 66rc on his Morewoode Shova LT, and he felt more raked with that on than with his current fork a Fox 40rc2.

Your boxxer is 568mm. 888s cannot just be 'run at 7 inches', but nice try. You would need two new 170mm cartrages to convert a 200mm 888 into a 170mm 888. For the record, the current single crown Marz forks are just as short as anything else on average. The older double crown forks like we are talking, can be a reasonable length with a flat crown. It was the crown that was porly designed on the older 888s not the fork as a whole. My 200mm '05 888 is 575mm for example.

For the orig poster. The 7 point is designed around a 180mm fork. In length, that equates to about 555mm more or less. The best you could possibly hope for with a 8 inch 888 is 575mm. This would slack the head angle by one degree and raise the bb by about 3/4 inch. Not the best set up. You should check though as the Stinky could very well ahve come with a 170mm 888, shich would be a much better match.

there's a few guys with 888/7point combos on MTBR. They seem to like it quite a bit, and say the altered HA is a welcome change. Personally I'd run all 200mm if I had a 888 on my 7point, I have a 170mm Super T on mine now and wouldn't mind a slacker HA one bit.

davep said:

Your boxxer is 568mm. 888s cannot just be 'run at 7 inches', but nice try. You would need two new 170mm cartrages to convert a 200mm 888 into a 170mm 888. For the record, the current single crown Marz forks are just as short as anything else on average. The older double crown forks like we are talking, can be a reasonable length with a flat crown. It was the crown that was porly designed on the older 888s not the fork as a whole. My 200mm '05 888 is 575mm for example.

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Dude, you obviously either dont know what you are talking about, or are thinking of the wrong fork. You can change the travel between 170mm and 200mm by adding/subracting internal spacers. There is not difference in the internals between the two, just the possition of the spacers. To bring travel down from 200 to 170, you take spacers from the top of the internals, and place them below (it might be reversed). It takes about 40minutes and all you have to do is replace the oil. If you really dont believe me, contact Marzocchi. I have done it with a freinds 888 so dont even try to contradict me.

kona-ryder said:

Dude, you obviously either dont know what you are talking about, or are thinking of the wrong fork. You can change the travel between 170mm and 200mm by adding/subracting internal spacers. There is not difference in the internals between the two, just the possition of the spacers. To bring travel down from 200 to 170, you take spacers from the top of the internals, and place them below (it might be reversed). It takes about 40minutes and all you have to do is replace the oil. If you really dont believe me, contact Marzocchi. I have done it with a freinds 888 so dont even try to contradict me.

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You're arguing with the wrong guy. EDIT: Unless you're talking about different models.

Bicyclist said:

You're arguing with the wrong guy. EDIT: Unless you're talking about different models.

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I think we must be. I am not going to argue about many things as far as suspension goes. Part of the reason I bought a Boxxer was due to the ease of mantainence, ie I can do everything myself, but with something like a 40 I wouldn't know where to begin. This is one case where I am sure of what I am talking about, having switched the travel on numerous 888's, both vf's and rc's from 170-200mm. If anyone has any doubts, I can see if I have any pics of the process. There might be a few lying around on ony of my cameras memory cards.

kona-ryder said:

Dude, you obviously either dont know what you are talking about, or are thinking of the wrong fork. You can change the travel between 170mm and 200mm by adding/subracting internal spacers. There is not difference in the internals between the two, just the possition of the spacers. To bring travel down from 200 to 170, you take spacers from the top of the internals, and place them below (it might be reversed). It takes about 40minutes and all you have to do is replace the oil. If you really dont believe me, contact Marzocchi. I have done it with a freinds 888 so dont even try to contradict me.

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Ha Ha nice try!! Maybe you should learn yourself a little before your next wonderfully helpful post.

888RCs have crimped and closed cartrages. The 'spacer' that you are referencing (actually a top out spring in the 888s) is INSIDE the cartrage. It cannot be moved! You can only get to the spring by cutting the cartrage open with a hack saw, thus ruining your fork. The 888RC (or equivalent) has ALWAYS required new cartrages to change the travel.

The older 66's had an internal spacer that could be moved to change the travel form 150mm to 170mm or vice versa.


66 does not equal 888!

untitledsince89 said:

Ok, so does anyone have anymore insite on an 888 on a 7point
and not what the axle to crown is on the 888 and the other bitching lol
I plan on getting the go-ride crowns to lower the height of my 888 either way so it should be fine

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It looks like you would end up with ~67 degree head angle and ~14 3/4 inch bb height. Actually not too bad. I thougth it would end up being worse (the flat crown helps a lot IMO). The bike will be a little slower steering (better at speed worse at slow speed tight turns) but only by a small margin. The bb height is higher than what is currently being used for DH race bikes ( this will give up a little 'stability'..higher center of gravity), but will allow you to pedal through rougher terrain due to clearance. Overall not bad for a do-all big mountain bike (pedal + FR + little true DH.

The 7 points that i've sat on in performance bike felt to me like they could use just a little more HA. They could make a really fun dual duty FR/DH bike with an 888 on them. I would personally run an 8" 888 with a flat crown, seems like the best possible setup to me.

davep said:

Ha Ha nice try!! Maybe you should learn yourself a little before your next wonderfully helpful post.

888RCs have crimped and closed cartrages. The 'spacer' that you are referencing (actually a top out spring in the 888s) is INSIDE the cartrage. It cannot be moved! You can only get to the spring by cutting the cartrage open with a hack saw, thus ruining your fork. The 888RC (or equivalent) has ALWAYS required new cartrages to change the travel.

The older 66's had an internal spacer that could be moved to change the travel form 150mm to 170mm or vice versa.


66 does not equal 888!

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this is the complete truth.

Huh? I seems that I have been beat at my own game. I hope I havent made an azz of myself. I was going on information that Marzocchi gave me directly through email. Perhaps they got their 666 and 88 mixed up? Now I have to figure out what my freind and I phucked up on his 888. If it wasn't travel we changed, then what was it I wonder. All I know is that when the fork was put back together, it wasn't the same as when it was dissasembled. Any insight here?

No prob. Have fun on the rig and throw up some pics when you get it put together.

Sorry about the side-bar... Just wanted to get everyone the correct info.