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I watched an incovenient truth last night

Old Man G Funk

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To those who have seen the movie, what changes have you made to your lifestyle since viewing it?
Before I saw the movie, I was pretty up on the current state of the science, so I didn't change much, since I pretty much already knew it. I am looking into ways to make myself and my house more CO2/GHG neutral and will continue to do so.
 

N8 v2.0

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Oct 18, 2002
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They get paid to contradict what the government wants them to say? Yeah, and they'll continue to get funding for it, right? Like Hansen and NASA, who had their funding cut for climate studies, probably because the government didn't like their findings.

Objection.... conjecture.
 

N8 v2.0

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Before I saw the movie, I was pretty up on the current state of the science, so I didn't change much, since I pretty much already knew it. I am looking into ways to make myself and my house more CO2/GHG neutral and will continue to do so.
Really? You are a CO2 in ice expert then?

wow.
 

dan-o

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Since watching it, I now stand on my roof naked and shriek for an hour or so every night. Not sure if it's realted to the movie though.
At least the climate's becoming more agreeable for that kind of activity.
 

binary visions

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/allusion

Maybe next time you should look up words you don't understand.
Before flinging that back at someone, you might want to re-read what you wrote, since you did not use the word properly. An "allusion" is a reference by implication... Replace your word in the sentence and it doesn't make sense:

while I believe that most scientists are out for the general advancement of mankind, I do not make any implication that a driving force behind science is a scientists desired to continue to get paid so they can eat
It may have just been poorly written, but it definitely wasn't used correctly in that context.
 

Old Man G Funk

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Objection.... conjecture.
You're right. No one came out and said that's why it was done, but it's very suspicious. (Edit: And it would certainly make someone think twice about espousing GW views if they want funds from our government, especially with all the other anti-science things the current admin does.)
 

N8 v2.0

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Before flinging that back at someone, you might want to re-read what you wrote, since you did not use the word properly. An "allusion" is a reference by implication... Replace your word in the sentence and it doesn't make sense:



It may have just been poorly written, but it definitely wasn't used correctly in that context.
good god.. we all know what he meant....


BTW, almost deafing is the silence of your opinions on the topic of AGW...



:monkey:
 

N8 v2.0

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Must you extend everything to absurdity?
just making the point that there is a huge amount of quite complex data and information relating to the subject... so much so, that even experts in the field can't come to a common agreement.

I find it odd that someone can embrace the belief on AGW without really knowing anything about it other than what's been posted on a few politically motivated websites...
 

Old Man G Funk

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just making the point that there is a huge amount of quite complex data and information relating to the subject... so much so, that even experts in the field can't come to a common agreement.
No, that is incorrect. The vast majority of scientists have come to common agreement. It is a few outlyers that disagree (and most of those have suspect reasons.) It just like evolution. The vast majority of scientists agree that evolution is real, but there is still some quibbling over small matters, but that doesn't mean that the overall science is in question.

The movie was a pretty overall showing. I did learn some things from it, but not things that changed the overall thrust of the science.
I find it odd that someone can embrace the belief on AGW without really knowing anything about it other than what's been posted on a few politically motivated websites...
Is that directed at me? What nerve. Irony, thy name is N8.
 

ohio

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Nov 26, 2001
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just making the point that there is a huge amount of quite complex data and information relating to the subject... so much so, that even experts in the field can't come to a common agreement.
You're right. It's a huge complex problem so you should assume that because you can't wrap your head around it, no one else can, and therefore the reality is probably whatever is best for you.

I find it odd that someone can embrace the belief on AGW without really knowing anything about it other than what's been posted on a few politically motivated websites...
I find it odd that someone can cling to a disbelief in a widely accepted scientific theory without really knowing anything other than what's been spoonfed to him from a few politically motivated websites.

Douche.
 

N8 v2.0

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I find it odd that someone can cling to a disbelief in a widely accepted scientific theory without really knowing anything other than what's been spoonfed to him from a few politically motivated websites.

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'widely accepted'..????

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

belief in a christian god is 'widely accepted'...

:p
 

binary visions

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good god.. we all know what he meant....
If you're going to insult someone's intelligence over word usage, you'd better know how to use them.

BTW, almost deafing is the silence of your opinions on the topic of AGW...
Most of your posts have not been substantial enough to respond to. I read the paper you posted, which was pretty much garbage. Why respond myself when everyone else is doing such a good job picking apart your poorly informed opinions on the topic? I have some knowledge on the topic, but those responding generally have much more.

N8 said:
anyone read/reading Michael Chrighton's book "State of Fear"..???
Yes. Crichton is a writer of fiction, and his work is appropriately fictional. He drew many poor conclusions with the data he presented and omitted much of the data or testimony referenced. It was a novel. An interesting novel, to be sure, one that I enjoyed reading... but it was still just a novel.

Do a little searching and you'll find lots of information about where his novel was incorrect.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The one that has been soundly debunked? Oh yeah, that's a really illuminating volume of work to base your opinions from. Remember, it is fiction, and scientists have pointed out how fictitious it is.
i haven't read it, but since this thread is about a fictional movie, i figured WTH.
 

Old Man G Funk

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Nov 21, 2005
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actually both have far more in common than you may want to believe.
You can keep telling yourself that, but it doesn't make it so. I've pointed out the similarities between anti-science from the Creationist side and from the anti GW side. You've simply made comments intended to shame us into espousing your views.
 

sanjuro

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Sep 13, 2004
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...I do not make any allusion that a driving force behind science is a scientists desired to continue to get paid so they can eat.
F'in dumbass. This is how you use the word allusion in a sentence:

Doug Henning performed some wonderful allusions in his magic act.
 

rooftest

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F'in dumbass. This is how you use the word allusion in a sentence:

Doug Henning performed some wonderful allusions in his magic act.
(From dictionary.com)
al·lu·sion Pronunciation[uh-loo-zhuhn] –noun 1. a passing or casual reference; an incidental mention of something, either directly or by implication: an allusion to Shakespeare.
2. the act of alluding.
3. Obsolete. a metaphor; parable.

You're referring to an illusion, I believe.