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California cops want to crush illegal street racing... literally!

BMXman

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yep I have seen it down in SD.... I think it's great...with the amount of tracks in So Cal there really is no reason to street race...although I would be more into law enforcement parting the cars out and using the money to help fund more enforcement...but that would never happen....D
 

blue

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yep I have seen it down in SD.... I think it's great...with the amount of tracks in So Cal there really is no reason to street race...although I would be more into law enforcement parting the cars out and using the money to help fund more enforcement...but that would never happen....D
Seriously, why not do something useful with them?

Turn them into police cars...
 

jimmydean

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yep I have seen it down in SD.... I think it's great...with the amount of tracks in So Cal there really is no reason to street race...although I would be more into law enforcement parting the cars out and using the money to help fund more enforcement...but that would never happen....D
:stupid:

Amen. I was reading that this morning and I think it's great. It would be cool to auction off the stuff, but it might go to other racers and doesn't get the point across.

I dragged as a kid, but we did it in the country out in the middle of nowhere. When I was in the Navy, we went to the track. I wasn't going to risk my 'Cuda on the street against some jackass.

Seriously, why not do something useful with them?

Turn them into police cars...
Because nothing is lamer than a front wheel burnout. Check out some of the "pursuit" cars in SoCal. Many have Vette's and other sweet rides from drug dealers, no need for Hondas.
 

blue

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Because nothing is lamer than a front wheel burnout. Check out some of the "pursuit" cars in SoCal. Many have Vette's and other sweet rides from drug dealers, no need for Hondas.
Not just a pursuit car...government agencies, education, social services, et al. Just seems downright wasteful and indicative of the state our culture and society at large if we can willy-nilly crush cars that cost thousands upon thousands of dollars in order to teach a bunch of retarded teens and twenty-somethings a "lesson". There has to be a better way.

That said, I think a well built Honda/what have you would make a hell of a lot better pursuit car than a pre-current gen Corvette, but that's just me ;)
 

jimmydean

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Not just a pursuit car...government agencies, education, social services, et al. Just seems downright wasteful and indicative of the state our culture and society at large if we can willy-nilly crush cars that cost thousands upon thousands of dollars in order to teach a bunch of retarded teens and twenty-somethings a "lesson". There has to be a better way.

That said, I think a well built Honda/what have you would make a hell of a lot better pursuit car than a pre-current gen Corvette, but that's just me ;)
Yes, that's just you. A Honda might do well in a straight line, but don't try to punch it out of a corner.

Is it any more wasteful than burning confiscated weed when you could use it for medicinal patients? Crushing a supped up Honda rolling stolen parts is fine with me. Just because you put thousands of dollars into it, doesn't make them worth thousands of dollars either.

My guess is you could turn it into soup cans and use those to feed the homeless.
 

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blue

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I'll also say that a well done Honda is way easier to handle and faster in, say, an urban environment than any Corvette or Camaro I've ever played with. However, for a highway chase, I'll take the 'vette.
Exactly. Older Corvettes and any other American muscle car would make terrible pursuit cars owing to their awful handling characteristics.

Please see on Youtube: e30 BMW M3 wasting a cop pursuing in a Camaro. :cupidarrow:

Back to the merits of the thread... :)

The point is that cars aren't illegal like confiscated drugs are...I think it's flat out stupid and wasteful, but hey...
 

jimmydean

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Exactly. Older Corvettes and any other American muscle car would make terrible pursuit cars owing to their awful handling characteristics.

Please see on Youtube: e30 BMW M3 wasting a cop pursuing in a Camaro. :cupidarrow:

Back to the merits of the thread... :)

The point is that cars aren't illegal like confiscated drugs are...I think it's flat out stupid and wasteful, but hey...
But an e30 is also rear wheel drive, unlike a Honda Civic or Acura Integra. A stock 350z will smoke a supped Honda on a street course too. Civics are a waste of money.
 

BMXman

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Yes, that's just you. A Honda might do well in a straight line, but don't try to punch it out of a corner.

Is it any more wasteful than burning confiscated weed when you could use it for medicinal patients? Crushing a supped up Honda rolling stolen parts is fine with me. Just because you put thousands of dollars into it, doesn't make them worth thousands of dollars either.

My guess is you could turn it into soup cans and use those to feed the homeless.
lol...quite a differnece between a 2500 lb vehicle and weed. All crushing them does is waste a ton of parts that can be used or recycled for other cars...and why all the Honda hate? They are an awesome car company...D
 

BMXman

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But an e30 is also rear wheel drive, unlike a Honda Civic or Acura Integra. A stock 350z will smoke a supped Honda on a street course too. Civics are a waste of money.
now you're just talking out of your ass...it all depends on who driving, what cars mods are done, and a slew of other factors...D
 

BMXman

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As the Civics get more spendy, the Hyundai Accents are becoming the car of choice for the pain in the ass teenagers......
yeah I see alot more Hyundai Tibs fixed up nowdays than ever before...the high price of aquiring geniune Honda performance parts are driving folks to other manufacturers...D
 

jimmydean

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now you're just talking out of your ass...it all depends on who driving, what cars mods are done, and a slew of other factors...D
Unless the mod you do is convert the Civic to rwd, it will still suck as a "sports" car. A turbo Civic with NOS may go fast in a straight line, but it still won't take corners.

As for recycling the parts, I think the idea is to keep them out of the hands of street racers. So who would buy a used turbo setup for a Civic other than another street racer(90% probability)?

I don't hate Honda Civics, they are great cars. I just find it funny that people will spend $10k on mods when you can buy a used twin turbo 300zx (as an example) for half that price and you are ahead of the game out of the box.
 

blue

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A well built Civic will own any American muscle car as a pursuit vehicle, aside from the new Corvette is all I'm saying...
 

remdog

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damn riceburners. but as i have worked on cars a lot...... i know you can makea damn fast car without the noise and the noise drives me nuts!
 

BMXman

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Unless the mod you do is convert the Civic to rwd, it will still suck as a "sports" car. A turbo Civic with NOS may go fast in a straight line, but it still won't take corners.

As for recycling the parts, I think the idea is to keep them out of the hands of street racers. So who would buy a used turbo setup for a Civic other than another street racer(90% probability)?

I don't hate Honda Civics, they are great cars. I just find it funny that people will spend $10k on mods when you can buy a used twin turbo 300zx (as an example) for half that price and you are ahead of the game out of the box.
Jimmy really...do some research...FWD cars can be just as "sporty" and manueverable as any other drivetrain platform...they just have to be driven with specific techniques. I'm speaking from actual expereince having raced FWD, RWD, MR and 4WD platforms.

Currently there are 2 FWD cars that are in the top 10 fastest time for the annual buttonwillow street tuner series...D
 

BMXman

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As for recycling the parts, I think the idea is to keep them out of the hands of street racers. So who would buy a used turbo setup for a Civic other than another street racer(90% probability)?
oh I meant more like hoods, bumpers, wheels, lights etc....not so much the performance parts....D
 

ohio

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Nah. Firstly I meant chassis rather than engine and secondly the Ford Cosworth engine was built in Northamptonshire and very few F1 versions ever made it to the US.

Good effort though.
How about Honda?
 

moff_quigley

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Different cars for different purposes, but in the case of American "muscle", there is no purpose, only dick-swinging...
Agreed and agreed.

Fluff, I guess I'm missing the transition from F1 tech to the "My V-Tech kicked in, YO" mindset and what it has to do with a US manufacturer winning an F1 race. I guess once Toyota starts detroying NASCAR we'll start to see some innovation in American cars?
 

jimmydean

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Jimmy really...do some research...FWD cars can be just as "sporty" and manueverable as any other drivetrain platform...they just have to be driven with specific techniques. I'm speaking from actual expereince having raced FWD, RWD, MR and 4WD platforms.

Currently there are 2 FWD cars that are in the top 10 fastest time for the annual buttonwillow street tuner series...D
I've done plenty of research. I have also driven a lot of cars. My CRX was "sporty", but it was far from a sports car. How many FWD cars are on the Top Gear list?

I guess my idea of performance is different than yours.

Not sure what Corvettes people are referring to as HUGE or FAT:

2005 Corvette
Wheelbase (mm):2686

Overall length (mm):4435

Overall width (mm):1844

Track (mm):front: 1577 rear: 1542

Curb weight (kg): est. 1470

2005 Civic
Wheelbase (mm):2635

Overall length (mm):4250

Overall width (mm): 1760

Track (mm):front: 1504 rear: 1510

Curb weight (kg): est. 1310
 

BMXman

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I've done plenty of research. I have also driven a lot of cars. My CRX was "sporty", but it was far from a sports car. How many FWD cars are on the Top Gear list?

I guess my idea of performance is different than yours.

Top gear? That's opinion based no? I'm talking about actual racing not driving....where the clock provides actual results. The 2 FWD cars in the top 10 have competed against the likes of Porsches, Skylines, 350z's, WRX's, Evo's etc....but you already have your mind made up....D