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new khe/simple hub wild!

Evil4bc

Turbo Monkey
Jun 17, 2005
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Yup thats were most BMX hubs are headed these days , it's a version of the original Mavic crossmaxx hub . for some reason BMX guys REALLY like this design , I know of 2 other companies not mentioned in that article that are working on similar designs also .
 

BikeSATORI

Monkey
Apr 13, 2007
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yeah, eject option.

but I recall that Tree mentioned somewhere they gave props to using an old school mtb hub as inspiration for their new proto hub of a similar design to that.... don't know which one it was though.
 

Evil4bc

Turbo Monkey
Jun 17, 2005
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The Pulstar's were similer to most current straight pull designs , IE: I-9 , Mavic Deemax ect
Pulstar hubs



I-9's

Straight pull Mavic hubs


The version Mavic hub that look similer to the Simple hubs are the 1996 version of the Mavic Crosmax front hub
 

Stoked

Turbo Monkey
Nov 28, 2004
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rad stuff brad. thanks for posting up.

i can't wait to see tree's new hubs and fly's. also animal has a removable flange hub coming out. i dont know why its removable other than to swap colors...maybe to replace after grind damage?
 

BikeSATORI

Monkey
Apr 13, 2007
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Some mavic road hubs are still like that I believe. What about canecreek, with the nips in the middle... underneath a grind plate or something. might be cool, but nowhere as smooth looking as these.

CreeP, are you talking about wooden spoked wagon wheels? I think it was too hard for Tree to grow a specific pattern of knots at binding intersections to built a proper 3X wheel at that time.

radial laced. shall we try that one again and tempt fate in the name of weight too? BCD, you may be the only brave soul here...
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
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Some mavic road hubs are still like that I believe. What about canecreek, with the nips in the middle... underneath a grind plate or something. might be cool, but nowhere as smooth looking as these.

CreeP, are you talking about wooden spoked wagon wheels? I think it was too hard for Tree to grow a specific pattern of knots at binding intersections to built a proper 3X wheel at that time.

radial laced. shall we try that one again and tempt fate in the name of weight too? BCD, you may be the only brave soul here...
i like my radial front, you just have to to give your spoke a little more at......tention.
 

Cru Jones

Turbo Monkey
Sep 2, 2006
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OK, this might be a stupid question. But, do you have to use special spokes? If so, do people already make them? Are they easy to come by?
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
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no any spoke.

i have to buy a box for the front, no too pricey.

spoke clac has 0 cross when you fig you length from ERD
 

Cru Jones

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Sep 2, 2006
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no any spoke.

i have to buy a box for the front, no too pricey.

spoke clac has 0 cross when you fig you length from ERD
I don't mean for your radial lacing, I mean for these new hubs. You can use regular spokes? So, the hooked end is embedded underneath somehow?
 

BikeSATORI

Monkey
Apr 13, 2007
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oh, I just now realized that the Simple BMX hub IS actually the Eject Option. didn't know they merged projects, but that's cool, wider distro.

I think the Simple/Eject looks way nicer than the KHE astral, which looks cheaper compared to the speed holed, crisper cnc'ed, tricker looking Simple... axle bolts are nicer too.

Apparantly the Eject can ONLY be laced 4X as it's the only way the spoke elbows will properly seat in the hub.
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
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I don't mean for your radial lacing, I mean for these new hubs. You can use regular spokes? So, the hooked end is embedded underneath somehow?
as noted above it needs j's for 4x.

but if you could fine straight pull spokes
i bet radial would work.
 

CreeP

Monkey
Mar 8, 2002
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as noted above it needs j's for 4x.

but if you could fine straight pull spokes
i bet radial would work.
I wouldn't ride it!

btw, those mavics are only similar because the spoke goes through radially. that isn't really equivalent. Shimano did a much closer design a while back.
i'm sure you remember these:

http://www.johnhenrybikes.com/images/products/shim_Deore_Fr_Hub-Large.jpg


the important hub in this equation is this one though:
http://www.brunn-fahrzeugtechnik.de/bike parts/Deutsch/Steuersatze/English/english.html
more specifically:
http://www.brunn-fahrzeugtechnik.de/bike parts/Deutsch/Steuersatze/English/front wheel hubs/front wheel hubs.html