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King 1.5 lives

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,646
1,216
Nilbog
sexiest thing ever if only they made a 1.5" 36 fork so i could run this...I guess i will keep the e.13 cups for now!

I just put on a pair of the syncros bulk bar and they are by far the best feeling bars i have ever ridden...
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
6,196
4
that bike is hot. I dig that the blue headset matches the fork compression adjustment
 

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
^did you use the little nylon washer that goes between the headset and stem/spacers?
Yep.

My last one was creaking so bad I had it replaced at Whistler. The guy in the shop said that it is very common for Kings to creak with long travel single crowns. Now the King headset on my wifes bike is creaking too. Both were installed at different bike shops. Im going to Cane Creek on all my bikes from now on.
 

ZHendo

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
1,661
147
PNW
the thing is, 1.5 will just warrant a bigger price boost on the king stuff. who wants to pay 150 bones for a headset? some people will say that they can be relied on, etc, and i respect that, but are they really worth what you could get 3 FSA headsets for? i'm not criticizing other aspects of king because i respect their manufacturing methods as well as the reliability of their products, but i think they need to get a little more realistic on pricing. a cnc'd piece of metal with 2 cartidge bearings should not cost $150.
 

CrabJoe StretchPants

Reincarnated Crab Walking Head Spinning Bruce Dick
Nov 30, 2003
14,163
2,484
Groton, MA
have fun with that....those things are really garbage

HAHAHAHA


CC S8 > CK


Period.

I have S8s on the Burner and RFX and Double XC on the DHR. Haven't had a single problem with any of them, AND I didn't have to pawn off my grandfather's vintage Playboy collection to pay for them.
 

Urinal Mint

Monkey
Oct 10, 2003
193
0
Washington
What about the Woodman Saturn 1.5"? Never actually used a Woodman headset, but it seems to be a pretty nice part. They come in a bunch of fancy colors too.

 

Ian Collins

Turbo Monkey
Oct 4, 2001
1,428
0
Pacific Beach, San Diego, CA
So what headset then besides a CK?

I thought the CC Double X or Xc were good headsets.

The only other headset Ive had was a FSA Pig Pro. I had no problems with it.
sunline fsa race face......had bad luck with cane creek personally, and from working at a bike shop, i saw many come back on ROAD bikes....you know that isn't good.....also woodman's are nice....honestly the chris king you have probably needs to the interface between the bearing and the cup greased, and needs to have the interface between the cup and the frame greased along with making sure that where the lower race slides onto the fork is greased and have all surfaces faced and free of burrs......if you had a good shop do that,i'd bet my left arm it would be fine from there out......i've had lots of kings and never had a problem with them
 

frorider

Monkey
Jul 21, 2004
971
20
cali
CC doubleX = mediocre. uses slightly different dimensions than other 1.5 headtubes; Intense website advises against using 1.5 Cane Creek. know a couple of locals who've had CC mid-priced headsets crap out prematurely.

seems that the general consensus for long-travel SC forks this year (1.125 OR 1.5) was the FSA orbit extreme pro. 10 year guarantee. i have the 1.125 and the 1.5 and both are stellar. set and forget. no creaking. custom color: black.

patent dispute between FSA and CC supposedly means that FSA will need to change their design. so i may buy another extreme pro just in case....
 

Urinal Mint

Monkey
Oct 10, 2003
193
0
Washington
CC doubleX = mediocre. uses slightly different dimensions than other 1.5 headtubes; Intense website advises against using 1.5 Cane Creek. know a couple of locals who've had CC mid-priced headsets crap out prematurely.

seems that the general consensus for long-travel SC forks this year (1.125 OR 1.5) was the FSA orbit extreme pro. 10 year guarantee. i have the 1.125 and the 1.5 and both are stellar. set and forget. no creaking. custom color: black.

patent dispute between FSA and CC supposedly means that FSA will need to change their design. so i may buy another extreme pro just in case....
My Orbit extreme pro started creaking after about 10 months. I checked out the bearings, and they were completely shot. Got some new cartridge bearings from FSA, and it stopped creaking for a couple weeks, now its creaking again...
 

Cave Dweller

Monkey
May 6, 2003
993
0
I have been using a cane creek double xc 1.5>1 1/8 on my DHR for 3 years with NO problems. I weigh 95kgs and don't exactly ride smooth.
 

?????

Turbo Monkey
Jun 20, 2005
1,678
2
San Francisco
My FSA orbit extreme pro 1.5 began creaking a week after installing it with a fox 40. Later on the shop tightened it up and overtightened it. I rode it for about a week and took it back to the shop for some other work and had them loosen the headset because it had a lot of friction in it and a few days later it started creaking again. It's a piece of crap and won't stay tight. I've never had a problem with any 1.125" CK headset that I have and they are all more than 5 years old. This FSA was bought at the end of June. Every CK headset that I've ever had or tried on someone elses bike has been absolutely perfect. No Cane Creek, FSA, or other copycat design with the press cone crap works as good.
 

FlyinPolack

Monkey
Jul 16, 2007
371
0
the thing is, 1.5 will just warrant a bigger price boost on the king stuff. who wants to pay 150 bones for a headset? some people will say that they can be relied on, etc, and i respect that, but are they really worth what you could get 3 FSA headsets for? i'm not criticizing other aspects of king because i respect their manufacturing methods as well as the reliability of their products, but i think they need to get a little more realistic on pricing. a cnc'd piece of metal with 2 cartidge bearings should not cost $150.
I Felt the same way until I bought one 5 years ago & I'm still using it.
If installed right they won't let you down.
You must get you're headtube faced or they will creak. It says so right in the directions.
 

Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
sunline fsa race face......had bad luck with cane creek personally, and from working at a bike shop, i saw many come back on ROAD bikes....you know that isn't good.....also woodman's are nice....honestly the chris king you have probably needs to the interface between the bearing and the cup greased, and needs to have the interface between the cup and the frame greased along with making sure that where the lower race slides onto the fork is greased and have all surfaces faced and free of burrs......if you had a good shop do that,i'd bet my left arm it would be fine from there out......i've had lots of kings and never had a problem with them
It was done correctly by a good shop.
I even took it apart a couple times and regreased it and it still creaked.
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
9,646
1,216
Nilbog
I have never had trouble with a king component ever, and in 6 years working in a shop we never had an issue with a headset. A few hub rebuilds but i am pretty excited about this. I ran one on my long travel fork for a long time when i was running a standard head tube without issue.

Not to say others are wrong but this thing will definately blow the competition away, at a price though...People will pay it...cmon...
 

Fulton

Monkey
Nov 9, 2001
825
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HAHAHAHA


CC S8 > CK


Period.

I have S8s on the Burner and RFX and Double XC on the DHR. Haven't had a single problem with any of them, AND I didn't have to pawn off my grandfather's vintage Playboy collection to pay for them.
I absolutely agree. the high end cane creek stuff has been flawless for me. The solos is a bad-ass headset.
 

Fulton

Monkey
Nov 9, 2001
825
0
....honestly the chris king you have probably needs to the interface between the bearing and the cup greased, and needs to have the interface between the cup and the frame greased along with making sure that where the lower race slides onto the fork is greased and have all surfaces faced and free of burrs......if you had a good shop do that,i'd bet my left arm it would be fine from there out......i've had lots of kings and never had a problem with them
really? your left arm? I'll take that bet.
 

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Kntr

Turbo Monkey
Jan 25, 2003
7,526
21
Montana
that's bizarre man.....i don't even know what to tell you, but i suspect something isn't right.....
Thats what I thought, but two CKs in the same year gives them a bad rep in my eyes. :)

How long do CK headsets usually last before they need a rebuild anyway? Both of mine had seen some miles.
 

Cant Climb

Turbo Monkey
May 9, 2004
2,683
10
Had many Kings and a handfull of FSAs. FSAs are fine. Prefer them actually as they make a very light deep-cup and the race is easypeasy to install/remove.
My last FSA cracked into 2 pieces.....(lower) bearing part seperated from the sleeve....they warrantied it though.......