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v10 or 303

dh415

Chimp
Dec 6, 2006
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novato
what do u guys think is a better bike a v10 or yeti 303? i just want to see what people like and dont like about them or your personal preference
 

ZHendo

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
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147
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well, there was a guy in whistler that i rode with that was part of the yeti rpm team, basically a organized team of colorado kids. anyways, he wasn't too aggressive or fast, so he never really pushed the bike to it's limits at all, but he seemed to really really love it. on the muddy days at the beginning of the week, the sliders did get mucked up, and although i didn't specifically hear his b*tching, it had something to do with the rails getting gooey. the frame is also really heavy.

the v10 has never been a bike i've really liked. the vpp linkage requires a lot of sag and is very very sensitive to having the correct settings. the bike will ride like doody if it isn't set up correctly, i've heard that from numerous v10 owners.

i'd say get the 303 if those are the 2 bikes you're looking at. there are bikes out there that will be, in my opinion, better bikes than the v10 and also much cheaper than the 303, for example, the turner dhr, giant glory, and cove shocker.
 

yuroshek

Turbo Monkey
Jun 26, 2007
2,438
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Arizona!
hey man i know you didnt say anything about a glory dh but i highly recomend one. ppl say it feels like it has just as much travel as a v-10 but rides better. also i let someone who is sponsored by iron horse try my 08 and he thinks its better then his sunday, he says it turns way better then his sunday, and yes he is a sponsored rider lol.

my vote goes for the glory. mine is at 44lbs right now and i havent tried to loose any weight on it. im sure i can get it to 40 easy.
 

Tootrikky

Monkey
Jul 31, 2003
772
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Mount Vernon
I haven't rode one either. I rode with a guy who had one though. A Lamborghini Countach has the highest top speed, and Horace Grace would woop Hulk Hogan's butt in a street fight.
 

Kevin

Turbo Monkey
well, there was a guy in whistler that i rode with that was part of the yeti rpm team, basically a organized team of colorado kids. anyways, he wasn't too aggressive or fast, so he never really pushed the bike to it's limits at all, but he seemed to really really love it. on the muddy days at the beginning of the week, the sliders did get mucked up, and although i didn't specifically hear his b*tching, it had something to do with the rails getting gooey. the frame is also really heavy.

the v10 has never been a bike i've really liked. the vpp linkage requires a lot of sag and is very very sensitive to having the correct settings. the bike will ride like doody if it isn't set up correctly, i've heard that from numerous v10 owners.

i'd say get the 303 if those are the 2 bikes you're looking at. there are bikes out there that will be, in my opinion, better bikes than the v10 and also much cheaper than the 303, for example, the turner dhr, giant glory, and cove shocker.
I love this one. You havent ridden either, but youve heard something from a kid who really really loved it but who didnt even ride fast or push the bike to its limits at all. :clapping: Guys who dont ride fast could ride a friggin steamboat down a mountain and say its an awsome bike.

Then you say the v10 sucks (but Im guessing youve never ridden one yourself) because it requires some extra attention setting it up. :disgust1:
Youve never really liked VPP? Way too go genius.
In contrary too you I own a v10 and it rides amazing. Setting it up isnt rocket science either.

Then you start about the DHR and Cove or even the Giant being better then a 303 or a v10, again I doubt if youve ridden any of these, let alone in the right settings. I myself have ridden a DHR and I found it to be much more unstable then the v10 but it was a really sweet bike to ride, I think it will take a little more getting used to before you can really pin that one.
Ive never ridden a 303 so all I can say that its usually heavier then a v10.
If you really want to know which bike you should buy, dont listen to kids on the internet who heard from some other little kid who didnt even ride fast that he really really loved his bike... To a certain point yeah, one bike maybee a bit better then another one, but it all comes down too personall preference in the end, how you ride and where you ride it.
 

bpatterson6

Turbo Monkey
Jul 1, 2004
1,049
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Colorado
I own a 303. It's a great bike and the rougher the terrain the faster the bike wants to go. Yeah it can be weighty, but it doesn't ride heavy. My bike weighs in at 43lbs. It's extremly nimble and easy to handle. I have my Fox DHX PUSHed and that makes it handle even better. I am however not using a Fox40. I am running an '07 Marzocchi 888 SL ATA. I think the 40 might be a better match for the DHX and probly would enable the bike to handle that much better. If there is a drawback it would be the constant attention that the rails require for cleaning and grease and the constant attention that must be paid to the bolts throughout the bike. If you can handle that, the bike is worth every cent that they ask for it.
 

Damo

Short One Marshmallow
Sep 7, 2006
4,603
27
French Alps
I own a 303. It's a great bike and the rougher the terrain the faster the bike wants to go. Yeah it can be weighty, but it doesn't ride heavy. My bike weighs in at 43lbs. It's extremly nimble and easy to handle. I have my Fox DHX PUSHed and that makes it handle even better. I am however not using a Fox40. I am running an '07 Marzocchi 888 SL ATA. I think the 40 might be a better match for the DHX and probly would enable the bike to handle that much better. If there is a drawback it would be the constant attention that the rails require for cleaning and grease and the constant attention that must be paid to the bolts throughout the bike. If you can handle that, the bike is worth every cent that they ask for it.


Whoah there big boy. You can't just come on here and give first hand reviews like that. You are out of order (and RM tradition).







PS: My '08 303 should be arriving beginning January. Many thanks Yeti.
 

b16 lag

Chimp
Jul 17, 2007
26
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london, uk
I had the same dilemma early this year and although i never got to ride the 303, i was put off by the rail maintenance issue. Im sure its an excellent bike but for the lazy people like me i was told its not an option. I did, however, test ride a v10 and a cove shocker, and went for the shocker in the end. Nothing wrong with the v10, but the shocker seemed to feel better for the lighter rider such as myself.
 

sriracha

Monkey
Jun 9, 2006
496
0
805
i own a V10....it's rad.
super smooth travel, pedals extremely well, it's light, it handles great...really nimble, corners most awesomenessly. it's a kick ass bike.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
11,346
1,587
Warsaw :/
303 is heavy, expensive and mud vulnerable. The cs could be shorter. The susp idea is very nice but not worth the crazy price imho.
V10 is light and has a nice geo but the lev ratio is not the best, sag is to big and it rides too much like a sofa. Plus you have to wait ages for a new one.

If you want a vitual like susp go Sunday with DW, Lapierre with FPS2(Really recomended if your over 5'8''. The bike is overkill) or Zumbi with (dont remember the name of susp).

If you can accept other susp types I'd also think about previously mentioned turner and Commencal supereme are nice.

ahh forgot about canfield f1 jedi and corsair crown but they are new bikes so little feedback about them.

ps. It's only my personal opinion so no flame wars ;)
 

bpatterson6

Turbo Monkey
Jul 1, 2004
1,049
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Colorado
V10s are everywhere
Actually that could said as well for the Sunday. So what. Get what you want and what you feel suits you best.
If it's a V10, do it. If it's a Sunday, do it. If it's a 303, do it. All have their ups and downs.
I'm sure allot of people have their own biases and opinions about said bikes. Take what you can use and leave the rest. :lighten:
 

demo 9

Turbo Monkey
Jan 31, 2007
5,910
46
north jersey
i just finished my 303, and all i can say is WOW. the rails WILL GET MUDDY BUT IT DOESNT CHANGE THE RIDE. (for all of u who still wonder about this) it just plows over everything building speed, its MY personal favorite bike that i have ridden and i have ridden almost everything except a V10. i say go for it. but i will also tell u that its a race bike and not so much freeride. it sucks going slow so if u get this you better go fast or u wont see what all the hype is about. i cant voice my opinion about the V10 but it was going to be my second choice if i could not get the yeti so i dont know if that helps u. my weight is 43.3
 

doc gravity

Monkey
Oct 25, 2004
152
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highlands ranch, CO
I've got no time on a V10, but I do have a full year on a 303, and it is a great ride. It is great in the rough stuff, loves to be ridden hard, still turns plenty well. All in all, a very balanced ride. Despite all the concerns about the rail system, I've had NO problems. You just squirt a little grease in once or twice a day, and they just work. Had the car off of the rails to really clean the rails at the end of the year, and there was no contamination inside the car at all. Seals have all held up well, and the grease inside was just like it came out of the tube. With any kind of maintenance at all, I have yet to hear of anybody who's had any problems with the rail system.
Scott
 

RMboy

Monkey
Dec 1, 2006
879
0
England the Great...
i own a V10 love it, DHX is pushed and Ti...amazing bike on of the best...had a play with the 303 at my local track...yeah felt ok, but i found u could feel the sliding movement of the rial through the bike, and it was not that responsive..and weighed more than my car..lol...

V10 is a mush better option, less weight, less maintenance and more ride time...
 

ragin-sagin

Monkey
Oct 2, 2003
390
0
NZ
I have been riding my V-10 for about a year and half now...great bike. Here are the few things I don't like:
-Lots of bearings (not an issue if setup is done properly, they got a lifetime guarantee on them too...rulerz)
-At 40% the sag begs to be ridden lazy, like a cadillac if you will. This is actually good for me because i am a lazy bastard that doesn't bunny hop off every baby head in the trail.
-When riding in lots of mud, the bb will fill with sh!t. SC put a vent on the shell beneath the lower linkage that lets crappola in. I taped it off, not a problem anymore, but the rocks in my downtube were annoying.
-The fender has nearly castrated me on more than one hard landing. Thats cool tho, its a bit of game: "catch my balls if you can!!!" "Haha, missed again!"
-Shock leverage ratio high. Hasn't caused me any grief but i still don't like it.
-New model has carbon swinglink: mine doesn't. Boooo!!!

My highlights:
-Pedals amazing for a 10" bike
-F-in light
-Sticks like sh!t to a blanket in rocky/rough sections. I reckon the sag plays a major role in this.
 

ZHendo

Turbo Monkey
Oct 29, 2006
1,661
147
PNW
I love this one. You havent ridden either, but youve heard something from a kid who really really loved it but who didnt even ride fast or push the bike to its limits at all. :clapping: Guys who dont ride fast could ride a friggin steamboat down a mountain and say its an awsome bike.

Then you say the v10 sucks (but Im guessing youve never ridden one yourself) because it requires some extra attention setting it up. :disgust1:
Youve never really liked VPP? Way too go genius.
In contrary too you I own a v10 and it rides amazing. Setting it up isnt rocket science either.

Then you start about the DHR and Cove or even the Giant being better then a 303 or a v10, again I doubt if youve ridden any of these, let alone in the right settings. I myself have ridden a DHR and I found it to be much more unstable then the v10 but it was a really sweet bike to ride, I think it will take a little more getting used to before you can really pin that one.
Ive never ridden a 303 so all I can say that its usually heavier then a v10.
If you really want to know which bike you should buy, dont listen to kids on the internet who heard from some other little kid who didnt even ride fast that he really really loved his bike... To a certain point yeah, one bike maybee a bit better then another one, but it all comes down too personall preference in the end, how you ride and where you ride it.
i've ridden a v10, didn't like it much. a guy that i've ridden with a few times is selling his v10 in favor of a specialized demo 8, says the demo rides much better. i prefer snappier bikes, much like the older dhr i rode in nevada.
you should have read my post again before you made an ass of yourself. i said all i knew about the 303, and i never said that the cove, etc are better bikes than the 303, i only said that they're cheaper. even though the kid i was riding with in whistler wasn't that fast compared to a few other guys i was riding with, he was still decent, and he had been racing the bike all over colorado for a half a season. i would trust his judgement still. i've heard better things from more riders about the 303 than the v10, and i wasn't too impressed by the v10. never did i actually say it sucks, but i said that there are other bikes out there, like the glory, which i have ridden, that are arguably better bikes. i've also ridden the vp free and the intense uzzi, again i wasn't much of a fan of either. my dad's bike on the other hand, an intense 5.5, rides pretty well, and after riding a friends blur 4X, i have come to the conclusion that the shorter travel vpp bikes ride little better than the longer travel ones.
you're right though, don't listen to me, i'm 17 so i must be a dumbass.
 

ire

Turbo Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
6,196
4
that can be said about any quality bike component nowadays.

at least santa cruz offers a variety of color options available at no extra cost to make each build unique.
Well.....since everyone was trying to make a recommendation, and hadn't ridden either bike, I figured I would offer a suggestion. I see lots of Turners, Sundays, Demos and V10s around here, so the Yeti has a novelty to it (at least for this area).
 

siege

Monkey
Sep 30, 2006
155
0
kapolei, Hi
I love this one. You havent ridden either, but youve heard something from a kid who really really loved it but who didnt even ride fast or push the bike to its limits at all. :clapping: Guys who dont ride fast could ride a friggin steamboat down a mountain and say its an awsome bike.

Then you say the v10 sucks (but Im guessing youve never ridden one yourself) because it requires some extra attention setting it up. :disgust1:
Youve never really liked VPP? Way too go genius.
In contrary too you I own a v10 and it rides amazing. Setting it up isnt rocket science either.

Then you start about the DHR and Cove or even the Giant being better then a 303 or a v10, again I doubt if youve ridden any of these, let alone in the right settings. I myself have ridden a DHR and I found it to be much more unstable then the v10 but it was a really sweet bike to ride, I think it will take a little more getting used to before you can really pin that one.
Ive never ridden a 303 so all I can say that its usually heavier then a v10.
If you really want to know which bike you should buy, dont listen to kids on the internet who heard from some other little kid who didnt even ride fast that he really really loved his bike... To a certain point yeah, one bike maybee a bit better then another one, but it all comes down too personall preference in the end, how you ride and where you ride it.
Wow! bikes you may know, but tact ....WHEW! (here's an emoticon thingy to support my statement:monkeydance: