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JoeRay

Monkey
Feb 19, 2004
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Example:

Person is asked to produce urine sample under fitness for work testing.

First sample is stone cold, below room temp. Sorry buddy can't test that one, you'll need to produce another. Told to sit and wait and not leave area unless supervised.

Tester comes back after testing other person and find original person sitting with cup of coffee (had to leave room to get it) and hand covering top of cup. Tester drops to this one and asks to see cup.

In cup is a small bottle of pee that he'd produced (or his wife) some time before the big session on the weed the night before. Vainly trying to heat up to body temp to be testable for the second try.

Now guy has no disciplinary action on file, is a clean skin and it is a three strikes policy. Potentially it could even test clen if he were lucky but because he was caught substituting and disobeying test protocol, it is a immediately terminal kind of thing.

End result, six digit income thrown away for one night (possibly?) on the weed. Merry Christmas. I still fail to understand. Anyhow discuss....
 

pZyteX

Monkey
Jan 28, 2003
294
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Amsterdam
What do you not understand, how a company is fvcking with somebody's personal live when his work ain't suffering.
I assume you can't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes at this job as well.
Drug laws are stupid and people who decide to enforce them even more so.
 

X3pilot

Texans fan - LOL
Aug 13, 2007
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What do you not understand, how a company is fvcking with somebody's personal live when his work ain't suffering.
I assume you can't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes at this job as well.
Drug laws are stupid and people who decide to enforce them even more so.
..says the poster from Amsterdam
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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Regardless of whether or not testing for pot should be legal/acceptable, if you know there's a chance you'll be tested, and you smoke it, then you're a dumbass. Simple. You always know if there's a chance you'll be tested - either your company has a policy about random drug testing, or they don't and you can choose to work there or not.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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In cup is a small bottle of pee that he'd produced (or his wife) some time before the big session on the weed the night before. Vainly trying to heat up to body temp to be testable for the second try.
Just tell him drink the piss and he passes.
 

I Are Baboon

The Full Dopey
Aug 6, 2001
32,383
9,289
MTB New England
..says the poster from Amsterdam
Regardless of whether or not testing for pot should be legal/acceptable, if you know there's a chance you'll be tested, and you smoke it, then you're a dumbass. Simple. You always know if there's a chance you'll be tested - either your company has a policy about random drug testing, or they don't and you can choose to work there or not.
someone that dumb shouldnt be making 6 figures
:stupid:
 

Hunter

Monkey
Sep 14, 2006
793
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The Right coast
Example:

....before the big session on the weed the night before.

End result, six digit income thrown away for one night (possibly?) on the weed. Merry Christmas. I still fail to understand. Anyhow discuss....
How did you know about the big weed session the night before?:brow: Are you sure he was just puffing a bit of herb, and not a hitting the crack pipe or shootin' H?

He's an idiot for working for a company that does random drug testing if he likes to dabble in drugs. These companies suck anyway. Nothing like living your life in fear...Damn The Man!
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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The point about this thread is not that this person smoked pot, but how stupid was he that he could not beat the drug test.
 

laura

DH_Laura
Jul 16, 2002
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The point about this thread is not that this person smoked pot, but how stupid was he that he could not beat the drug test.
No ****. I mean warming it up in a cup of coffee? Come on now. Everybody knows if you keep your clean pee in a condom taped to your inner thigh it will stay at body temp long enough to pass as fresh urine.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
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or drink a TON of water combined with enough vitamin B to give your pee a yellow color. test comes back as inconclusive and you have to go back, but you get a 2-3 week period to "dry out" and get the stuff out of your system. can't imagine risking your livelihood (especially a 6 figure one at that) like that though...
 

Echo

crooked smile
Jul 10, 2002
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Slacking at work
I was working for Kodak about 12 years ago, and they did a company wide pee test for drugs. They told us 3 months before the test the exact day they would be testing us. They sent out reminders every couple weeks. 2 people still failed.
 

Jeremy R

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Nov 15, 2001
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I was working for Kodak about 12 years ago, and they did a company wide pee test for drugs. They told us 3 months before the test the exact day they would be testing us. They sent out reminders every couple weeks. 2 people still failed.
Yep, and that kind of $hit happens all the time.
We need a new flood.
Take Mike Vick for instance.
He just promised the judge that he would stay off illegal drugs while he was waiting to be SENTENCED to jail.
Two weeks later, he failed a drug test.
Experts were saying that his jail time could be as little as a 12 month sentence. So the judge pretty much doubled it.
He gave away a year of his life when he knew the drug test was coming.:disgust1:
 

Hunter

Monkey
Sep 14, 2006
793
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The Right coast
I was working for Kodak about 12 years ago, and they did a company wide pee test for drugs. They told us 3 months before the test the exact day they would be testing us. They sent out reminders every couple weeks. 2 people still failed.
That's good stuff. :clapping:
 

BMXman

I wish I was Canadian
Sep 8, 2001
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Victoria, BC
Example:

Person is asked to produce urine sample under fitness for work testing.

First sample is stone cold, below room temp. Sorry buddy can't test that one, you'll need to produce another. Told to sit and wait and not leave area unless supervised.

Tester comes back after testing other person and find original person sitting with cup of coffee (had to leave room to get it) and hand covering top of cup. Tester drops to this one and asks to see cup.

In cup is a small bottle of pee that he'd produced (or his wife) some time before the big session on the weed the night before. Vainly trying to heat up to body temp to be testable for the second try.

Now guy has no disciplinary action on file, is a clean skin and it is a three strikes policy. Potentially it could even test clen if he were lucky but because he was caught substituting and disobeying test protocol, it is a immediately terminal kind of thing.

End result, six digit income thrown away for one night (possibly?) on the weed. Merry Christmas. I still fail to understand. Anyhow discuss....
similar thing happened at my last job...all I could think was what a moron. If you know your job drug test and you take drugs then you deserve it!!...D
 

BMXman

I wish I was Canadian
Sep 8, 2001
13,827
0
Victoria, BC
What do you not understand, how a company is fvcking with somebody's personal live when his work ain't suffering.
I assume you can't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes at this job as well.
Drug laws are stupid and people who decide to enforce them even more so.

lol...you obviously never owned your own business in the US!....D
 

Trailslug46

Monkey
May 14, 2006
123
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Indiana
The company I work for does random testing . I don't drink or toke not because of the testing, but if I get busted on the road I loose my CDL. No CDL no job.
 

loco-gringo

Crusading Clamp Monkey
Sep 27, 2006
8,887
14
Deep in the heart of TEXAS
The company I work for does random testing . I don't drink or toke not because of the testing, but if I get busted on the road I loose my CDL. No CDL no job.
Are you kidding me??? What's wrong with having no personal responsibility and blaming everyone else so you can get high???

Jeebus man. We don't operate on sound logic like you are tossing about here.
 

JoeRay

Monkey
Feb 19, 2004
228
0
In Squalor
No ****. I mean warming it up in a cup of coffee? Come on now. Everybody knows if you keep your clean pee in a condom taped to your inner thigh it will stay at body temp long enough to pass as fresh urine.
The leg taping doesn't work, skin temp is nowhere near internal temp. Even if you have really hot sweaty jocks.

Excuse the metric but pee whas it comes out is a minimum 34 centigrade.

We were allowed to try the taping thing when we were trained.

Vit B is only going to annoy the tester, and most companies that test usually have a policy that covers the inability to produce sample volume or quality sample. Usually along the lines of 'if no sample can be produced in a reasonable time frame, ie duration of the shift, then the situation is to be handled as if it were a positive test.'

Face it who can hold on for 12 hours?
 

JoeRay

Monkey
Feb 19, 2004
228
0
In Squalor
What do you not understand, how a company is fvcking with somebody's personal live when his work ain't suffering.
I assume you can't drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes at this job as well.
Drug laws are stupid and people who decide to enforce them even more so.
If the worker is operating a 300 ton truck capable of over 60 clicks in a circuit of at least four other like sized trucks, a 500 ton excavator and probably other capital machinery as well, you want to be sure the operators reflexes aren't affected. These thing drive over 4X4's like they are speed humps.

You choose the job, you get the pay, but you also choose not to toke/inject/drop/snort etc.
 

Sherpa

Basking in fail.
Jan 28, 2004
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Arkansaw
Take said condom and shove it up your ass. That will heat it right up. If your dumb enough to get caught, you should be dumb enough to stick a piss filled condom up your ass.
 

pZyteX

Monkey
Jan 28, 2003
294
0
Amsterdam
If the worker is operating a 300 ton truck capable of over 60 clicks in a circuit of at least four other like sized trucks, a 500 ton excavator and probably other capital machinery as well, you want to be sure the operators reflexes aren't affected. These thing drive over 4X4's like they are speed humps.

You choose the job, you get the pay, but you also choose not to toke/inject/drop/snort etc.
And if he was stoned on the job then I get it (or still stoned from the night before). But if there are just trace amounts of thc in his system which don't effect his driving skills it's just bs to fire him. Might as well fire everybody with trace amounts of alcohol or nicotine in their system.

Still I agree with the whole he knew they test for it, got caught is stupid. I only disagree with the laws.
 

AzToJrse

Monkey
Aug 6, 2007
254
0
SOUTH JERSEY
I was working for Kodak about 12 years ago, and they did a company wide pee test for drugs. They told us 3 months before the test the exact day they would be testing us. They sent out reminders every couple weeks. 2 people still failed.
now these people were complete idiots