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Lopes' new Ibis Tranny

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My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
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Towing the party line.
New custom carbon Ibis Tranny hardtail for Brian Lopes. Has a few tweaks from the model they have been making in the past. 27 pounds and Brian figures they will be able to drop 1/2 or so off the frame by removing wraps in a few areas.

 

Sir_Crackien

Turbo Monkey
Feb 7, 2004
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i think they meant to say 1/2lbs not half of the frames weight. but you are right they could have taken of much more in other parts of the bike. like the cranks and the stem. still though that thing is light. my dj bike weights in at just over 30 lbs and its a single speed with a lighter fork. granted its got bmx cranks and its a steel frame
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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Nilbog
totally off topic but is that zoch graphic scheme new for the upcoming year or are they running them now like that? I think i dig it but im not sure yet...
 

stiksandstones

Turbo Monkey
May 21, 2002
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If anyone gives a crap.....

Lopes uses saint cranks on a hardtail because of the rigidity/stiffness of the crank in comparison to an XTR. When he put XTR cranks on a hardtail he can just feel them flex, you can see it when he gate starts.

He uses/deals with xtr cranks on a FS bike solely for the weight savings and a FS bike is flexing a bit in the gate already so he just deals with it....but likes the rock solid feel of the saints on HT despite the weight gain.
 

mattmatt86

Turbo Monkey
Feb 9, 2005
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If anyone gives a crap.....

Lopes uses saint cranks on a hardtail because of the rigidity/stiffness of the crank in comparison to an XTR. When he put XTR cranks on a hardtail he can just feel them flex, you can see it when he gate starts.

He uses/deals with xtr cranks on a FS bike solely for the weight savings and a FS bike is flexing a bit in the gate already so he just deals with it....but likes the rock solid feel of the saints on HT despite the weight gain.
Is there a reason he's not running the new saint cranks?
 

DirtEveryDay

Turbo Monkey
Nov 24, 2003
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That seems awfully heavy for any hardtail, let alone a CF frame... Perhaps I overestimate what CF can really do, but my short STP with a Z1 Sport, steel cranks and an MTX wheelset weighed 29lbs... Just seems off... But I guess 2-3 pounds is also quite a bit, really...
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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That's the 44 graphics for next season. They are debating whether to ship each retail fork with a sheet of all colors, or if it will only be an OEM option.
hmmm i think i am liking it, i hope they run this theme through the whole line, ill be in the market for a fork next season and am leaning towards a zoch...not sure if i am in love with the current scheme though.

alright back to lopes...
 

DHS

Friendly Neighborhood Pool Boy
Apr 23, 2002
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No idea...if I were to guess-are the new ones heavier? less rigid? or perhaps shimano was out of stock of new ones?

Ask fraser.
cranks arn't out to pros as of yet. and they are actually lighter. they're using the same process as the XTR cranks. but still just as stiff
 

manhattanprjkt83

Rusty Trombone
Jul 10, 2003
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cranks arn't out to pros as of yet. and they are actually lighter. they're using the same process as the XTR cranks. but still just as stiff
man that sucks the xtr's are a pain in the ass to work with in terms of tools and removal...

they do work well when on though...I had to remove my xc bike's last night and was getting angry:rant:
 

Dogboy

Turbo Monkey
Apr 12, 2004
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man that sucks the xtr's are a pain in the ass to work with in terms of tools and removal...

they do work well when on though...I had to remove my xc bike's last night and was getting angry:rant:
Just for clarification, the new Saint cranks do not use the left arm attachment like XTR. They use the 2 pinch-bolt, compression cap that the current Saint uses. Not sure what DHS was referring to - maybe that they will be using the same aluminum that the XTR uses.
 

Sam B

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Nov 25, 2001
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Note tires... Bling Bling meets Onza Porcupine! Hehehehe...



And you gotta love the derailleur band and bottlecage mounts, clearly not a 4X specific frame. I like the lines of the TT/DT at the HT a lot though, good use of the shape freedom carbon offers.

^^I just remembered where the "tranny" name came from. This is the frame with the bolted on rear end to allow SS chain tension adjustment or frame disassembly to travel. Strange that this frame doesn't actually have the removable rear end ;)
 

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My Nuts Are Flat
Apr 18, 2002
18,040
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Towing the party line.
Brian and i talked about the rear end. It would have been way too flexy with the kind of horsepower he puts down. The rear end on this bike is completely bonded, although the bolts are actually still there.

The tires are new prototype 55 signature Lopes tires. Little tiny 55 logos on each tread. He literally put them on minutes before we tool that and he was on his first ride around with them.
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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You gotta have a water bottle cage mount, what if you get thirsty mid race...
Exactly what I was thinking.

Really, who is going to buy this frame? 20 year old gnarcore kids who steal pennies from mom's purse? 55 year old froriders from their 401k?
 

skinny mike

Turbo Monkey
Jan 24, 2005
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Really, who is going to buy this frame? 20 year old gnarcore kids who steal pennies from mom's purse? 55 year old froriders from their 401k?
if you look on the ibis site you'll see that the tranny is more of an xc hardtail, they just made lopes a one-off for racing slalom/4x.
 

benno

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Apr 7, 2006
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Brian and i talked about the rear end. It would have been way too flexy with the kind of horsepower he puts down. The rear end on this bike is completely bonded, although the bolts are actually still there.
He's a human being mate, he can't possibly 'put down' that much horsepower.
 

Rover Nick

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Oct 17, 2006
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I think I read somewhere that Lance Armosrtong puts out about 4-4.5 horsepower, just for refrence


either that.....or...


:imstupid:
 

sanjuro

Tube Smuggler
Sep 13, 2004
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if you look on the ibis site you'll see that the tranny is more of an xc hardtail, they just made lopes a one-off for racing slalom/4x.
Aha!

I like the lines of the frame, but I wonder if Lopes' bike has this feature:

 

boogenman

Turbo Monkey
Nov 3, 2004
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BUFFALO
He's a human being mate, he can't possibly 'put down' that much horsepower.
I have seen both lopes and carter snap chains like toothpics out of the start gate. I am pretty sure they can flex a frame with ease.

When you are at school trying to look up skirts these guys are hammering out miles on a road bike and squating the equivilent of bull.
 

BC VAN

Monkey
May 4, 2005
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He's a human being mate, he can't possibly 'put down' that much horsepower.
If a frame isn't stiff we feel it for sure....from chains snapping to frame flexing enough to change alignment and cause the chain to skip....

stiff cranks give us a lot of leverage and if the bike isn't ready to handle it we find the weakness.

true story....2003 and 2004 Mountaincross races i would go through 3 chains in a weekend of racing....one for practice...new one for practice and qualifier and new one for race....sometimes a forth during the race if my mechanic found a split link.
 

LMC

Monkey
Dec 10, 2006
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If a frame isn't stiff we feel it for sure....from chains snapping to frame flexing enough to change alignment and cause the chain to skip....

stiff cranks give us a lot of leverage and if the bike isn't ready to handle it we find the weakness.

true story....2003 and 2004 Mountaincross races i would go through 3 chains in a weekend of racing....one for practice...new one for practice and qualifier and new one for race....sometimes a forth during the race if my mechanic found a split link.

out of curiosity do you know what your max power output is?