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boxxer team v.s. totem solo

lachy_mtb

Monkey
May 25, 2008
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firstly, hey everyone, this is my first post here, so hows it going?
at the moment i have finally got money to buy a new set up for my 223. im looking at getting frame, fork and rear wheel. at the moment im really stuck on the choice of fork.
the two options are:
1) Boxxer Team, with low rise crown and e13 direct mount
2) solo air totems
i am a farily light rider at 70kgs so therefore want to have a lightish bike. the solo airs are very lights being lighter then the boxxer wc. but i hear there are issues with seals going on, but apparently fixed on the new model.
both forks are going to be new and the 2008 models.
I am looking at pairing the forks with a Rock shox vivid.
so if anyone has any opinions or more importantly have ridden either or both of the forks input is greatly appreciated
 

spocomptonrider

sportin' the CROCS
Nov 30, 2007
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I would reccomend the Boxxer, as I have seen all models of the Totem fork with problems. New the Totem feels amazing however every one I have seen has had some manner of fluid/cartridge issues. My Boxxer has had no problems aside from a leaky seal that was easily fixed. That being said however, after less than a season the Boxxer is getting the boot in favor of a '09 Fox 40RC2. Lately I have had a few issmues with the Boxxer bottoming out, especially in g-out situations. I've been noticing that the fork is fine through 6 inches of the travel but at the last 2 inches it loves to blow through it, all the way to the crown baby, funnnn.
 

Boxxer

Monkey
Jul 18, 2005
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Dirty South
Ill chime in. I have a 1st gen solo air. It did piss oil out of the wiper seals on both sides, but it wasnt enough to slow me down, though it was annoying. After a full days of abuse youll feel the need to wipe the uppers and lowers down. Its a light, stiff fork and is simple to work on(add oil) or pull the motion control out if needed. Its hard to peg this feeling, but it seems if I run enough air pressure to sag 25-30% the fork seems a bit harsh, and if I run it slighly lower it feels good over small/medium hits but tends to blow through its travel. Of course dialing up the high speed compression helps, but then it seems to loose a lot of that coil/oil feel that everyone likes in a DH fork.

I tend to run it slightly lower on air pressure and high speed compression and trade off semi frequent bottoming(say 5-8 times on a run down upper to lower whistler) Im not sure Id give another one a shot and will probably go back to dual crown coil/oil forks in the future.
 

Jeremy R

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Nov 15, 2001
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I ran a Totem solo air last year on my SX trail, and I now have a Boxxer team on my demo 8.
If you are a DH racer trying to push your limits, go with the Boxxer team for sure. It tracks better at speed and will hold a line better in off camber trails.
The totem is stiff front to back, but your handlebar jerks more at speed on fast DH courses.
Plus, they have the Boxxer line fairly dialed now with reliability.
Just check out the World Cup races, you see a ton of Boxxer teams and world cups for a reason.
 
Mar 1, 2008
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Although my riding style is more DH than FR, and I'm fairly light weight, I'm thinking about switching over to the Totem coil, for it's lighter weight, it's single-crown versatility, and it's burly lowers (matches with a Transition Dirtbag better than the 32mm Boxxer series).

I'm still on the fence as the Totem isn't cheap and I love the performance of the Boxxer. I've yet to fully utilize all if it's features, although I've got a soft spring in there now, with both preload discs removed, it sags at less than 25% with me on it, and with both discs removed, about 20mms under it's own weight :banghead: I'm 125lbs without gear, a hack of a rider but still not fast (new to gravity riding). If I send it on a few jumps I'll use almost all of the travel but typically I'll end up just at 95% travel usage.

Any advice guys?

BTW: here's a couple of pics, just because I wrote a lot. :picsstfu:





:rockout:
 

lachy_mtb

Monkey
May 25, 2008
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yeh i should of added that im intending to race with these forks, not really for doing much is any freeriding.
 
Mar 1, 2008
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boxxer, has more travel
20mm isn't much of a difference. What you should consider is single vs dual crown, steerer diameter (is your headtube 1.5"?), axle to crown (of course, I think both have the same atc), and more or less, weight (slight advantage goes to Totem).


For me, a bit of it is cosmetics too, the 40mm stanchion looks much more beefier and fitting for my bike. But I just can't seem to let go of the Team, I absolutely love that fork, performs flawlessly. :monkeydance:

BTW: here's one with a Totem:

 

dirtjumper22

Chimp
Jan 12, 2008
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if you are going to be doing any sort of DH racing i would definately get the boxxer not only because it is more race oriented but if you crash and you have a single crown then your bars are gonna spin around probably several times and it is a bitch trying to get that **** undone! and it ****s up your cables. the triple crown will make it much easier to pop up from a crash and keep goin. so its up to you but thats my 2 cents.
 

lachy_mtb

Monkey
May 25, 2008
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the travel factor isnt that bigger deal for some that have commented on it. i dont think 2 cms is going to make a significant difference
since the totems offer lower height, does anyone know how much this is compared to the boxxers? obviously there is the 2cms form travel, but is there anymore due to the different set up of the forks?
 

davep

Turbo Monkey
Jan 7, 2005
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the totem is a whopping 3mm shorter than the boxxer (so it is actually longer for the given travel like all single crowns).