Sam Hill!

luiz carlos · Jun 10, 2008

Hill will be the Worlds Champ again....no doubt. The course is for his style.

Damo · Jun 10, 2008

Who is this 'Sam Hill' everyone is talking about?

worship_mud · Jun 10, 2008

do you realize that sam's worst result in these five races (all which are WC's or at least on WC level) is fith place????? and that he is still WC-overall leader???

get serious. most people (incl. a fair share of WC-riders) would sell their girlfriends to russian mobsters to be on such a "losing"-streak.

dw · Jun 10, 2008

He's the only one in the list of every one of the results you posted, how is that bad?

Consistency wins championships, remember that.

SylentK · Jun 10, 2008

Hill needs mud and slippery conditions to dominate.

ska todd · Jun 10, 2008

What is your criteria for "domination"? Mont Saint Anne was neither "muddy" or "slippery" last year and I remember him winning that one

-ska todd

Dogboy · Jun 10, 2008

Here's the real difference between this year and last. He had one more World Cup round win going into the World Championships - which were pretty late in the season. And after World Champs last year there was just one WC round left. This year there are 4 more rounds after the World Champs so the potential is there for more wins. Not to mention the fact that his results are actually more consistent this year.

ire · Jun 10, 2008

Back to back losses? Sounds like he's washed up

rayhaan · Jun 10, 2008

dw said:
He's the only one in the list of every one of the results you posted, how is that bad?

Consistency wins championships, remember that.

that's exactly right...

I don't think he is on a losing streak, there was no doubt minnaar was going to win in fort william, it was soooooo close in andorra...he is still in the leaders jersey and there is only one way it is going to in Schladming, Hill will win that, Mont St. Anne...I predict a Hill victory there too! bromont and canberra, I don't know the courses, but I am pretty sure you won't see Sam off any of the podiums at any of the races to come this year.
It is just amazing racing, and that is what is so exciting about it, that's why I follow it and love it!

boogenman · Jun 10, 2008

When Sam Hill starts placing in the bottom 20 every race I will consider him losing

NJMX835 · Jun 10, 2008

Eh, it's just like when James Stewart get's anything but first everyone starts saying he's finished (said the same thing about RC too).

When you achieve a certain level of domination, if you display any less all the detractors jump all over you.

Hill will bounce back, it looks like the other top tier guys stepped up there game & he'll just have to push a bit harder himself, but like somebody else said, the guys' worst result all year was 5th, for anyone else that's great.

I'm loving this year, different winner every race, 10 different guys who could conceivably win, what more could you ask for?

WBC · Jun 10, 2008

If you're not first you're last!!

ArthurDH · Jun 10, 2008

as in second is the first among the losers

bizutch · Jun 10, 2008

dw said:
He's the only one in the list of every one of the results you posted, how is that bad?

Consistency wins championships, remember that.

Dear lord dave! The boy needs more SPEED HOLES!!! Do something before he becomes obsolete!!!! :shocked:

William42 · Jun 10, 2008

bizutch said:
Dear lord dave! The boy needs more SPEED HOLES!!! Do something before he becomes obsolete!!!!

the moto foam is slowing him down. it totally negates the savings from the speedholes

SeaPig · Jun 10, 2008

It's more a fact that the other riders have stepped up to his level. When they are all racing at the same level you will get a rider or three beating him by margins that are really close. You have got to look at the times to realize that he hasn't lost a step, the rest have just gained a step or two.

Damo · Jun 10, 2008

William42 said:
the moto foam is slowing him down. it totally negates the savings from the speedholes

Wrong.

Moto foam is actually a compact (and lightweight) block of millions of speedholes. Use of speedholes do, infact, make you faster. Everyone knows this, that is why motofoam works.

Speedholes.

offtheedge · Jun 10, 2008

I'm going back to the pump track thread.

mattmatt86 · Jun 10, 2008

Sam Hill blah blah blah, Sam Hill, Iron Horse Sunday blah blah blah, Sam Hill.

I'm going to ride my bike.

karpi · Jun 10, 2008

I don't think the US open and lisbon down town have the same weight as do the WC's. If you think about it, Hill has not won the US open all that many times right? last year it went to Bryn? In lisbon he has never had a good result... it's almost like the otter if you ask me. That aside, 5 place is not loosing, actually, it's winning, and winning points, and that's what matters in a CHAMPIONSHIP. It's kinda sad how people see Hill as some kinda of God, and now he seems to be a looser... pitty. I guess results talk for themselves and the season is still underway, anything can happen in this moment

fortenndu · Jun 10, 2008

Funniest thing at the open was when DW walks past me by the pro jump as Hill comes down and I hear him say another win for us, 5 seconds later I was laughing.

General Lee · Jun 10, 2008

fortenndu said:
Funniest thing at the open was when DW walks past me by the pro jump as Hill comes down and I hear him say another win for us, 5 seconds later I was laughing.

maybe he was referring to e13 :cheers:

bizutch · Jun 10, 2008

General Lee said:
maybe he was referring to e13

Nah..he meant Canucks. Dave's secretly a Maple Leaf lover.

pelo · Jun 10, 2008

Fort William was probebly too slack for him. Bigger riders seem to gain more speed there. And too dry...

Seriously, look at the guy when he´s riding, he´s just on a level on his own. Bring on a steep techy course and he´ll dominate. That´s a fact.

freeridefool · Jun 10, 2008

NJMX835 said:
Eh, it's just like when James Stewart get's anything but first everyone starts saying he's finished (said the same thing about RC too).

I'm loving this year, different winner every race, 10 different guys who could conceivably win, what more could you ask for?

I would formally like to ask for an american win. Or even a podium finish :clapping:

luiz carlos · Jun 10, 2008

pelo said:
Bring on a steep techy course and he´ll dominate. That´s a fact.

Val di Sole......

NJMX835 · Jun 10, 2008

freeridefool said:
I would formally like to ask for an american win. Or even a podium finish

Unfortunatly, that may take a couple more years...

We'll get there I'm sure, lot's of fast kids these days :thumb:

Akula_7 · Jun 10, 2008

Hey there WhoRyder, how about this then:

Samuel Hill has been on every World Cup Podium since Schladming 2006. If my mathematics is correct that is 9 WC podiums on the trot. That my ill-informed friend is what in this very tight competitive sport, I would call the mother of all winning streaks. Especially considering he was on top of the box in 5 out of those 9 (that doesn't count the Champery insanity).

He has also been on every World Championship podium since 2001, that's 7 years to-date...

So how about you delete this thread and go ride your cycle.......ummmkay?

Thanks.

pelo · Jun 10, 2008

Holy crap! That is some monstrous stats.

Akula_7 · Jun 10, 2008

WhoRyder said:
Man you Sam Hill Fans Boys get all serious about that guy... look, i was just voicing what i saw, coming in second is not a win, coming in 3rd is not a win... i was just saying that he has been losing some UCI races....

Hey there horse, I certainly aint a "fan-boy", I'm a World Cup racer my self, just in my spare time when I'm not ya know....shreddin'. I like to come on here and set the record straight. Sammy has finished 2nd (by a miniscule margin) and 5th in the last two, no-one with half a brain-cell expected Sam to win everything this year, it was possible but not likely. That's more to do with other riders bringing some A-game and not Sam getting slower or whatever.

The gaps between 1st and 80th (i.e. full field) is getting down to around the 20sec mark where as it used to be at around 45-50sec mark. So basically Sam has lifted everyones game in just 2 seasons.

Peaty hasn't won a WC since 2006, Minnaar until now since mid 2005. So Sam lost a couple but still finished comfortable on the podium........woop-di-fcukin-do!

Go ride your cycle!

dw · Jun 10, 2008

fortenndu said:
Funniest thing at the open was when DW walks past me by the pro jump as Hill comes down and I hear him say another win for us, 5 seconds later I was laughing.

At that point, the only riders left on the track rode for e.thirteen.. Steve Smith and Sam Hill.. :banana:

No matter who won, we won.

Introduce yourself next time!

motomike · Jun 10, 2008

WhoRyder said:
Man you Sam Hill Fans Boys get all serious about that guy... look, i was just voicing what i saw, coming in second is not a win, coming in 3rd is not a win... i was just saying that he has been losing some UCI races....

hey, you're the one who made a pointless thread about him... :lighten:

SeaPig · Jun 10, 2008

The thing about Sam Hill discussions is that it's taken on the level of other sport dynasties. There will always be people who then hate the success, those who worship it, and those who claim the end at the earliest possible moment. While some are tired of this kind of discussion, I feel that just as with the other sports, this kind of dynasty always helps the sport.

For example, I don't watch horse racing and don't bet on it, but I tuned in to see if Big Brown was going to win the triple crown. Why? Because I love excellence.

One thing I like about Sam Hill, is that he rides so quiet. He's smooth and consistent. That's going to win most of the time.

SeaPig · Jun 10, 2008

Akula_7 said:
The gaps between 1st and 80th (i.e. full field) is getting down to around the 20sec mark where as it used to be at around 45-50sec mark. So basically Sam has lifted everyones game in just 2 seasons.

This is the truth behind it all. And that's good for the sport. So, Sam Hill is good for the sport.

pelo · Jun 10, 2008

Yes, Sam Hill is the new-school king of DH. That´s fact too.

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