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The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed

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Turbo Monkey
Mar 28, 2007
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If we legalize drugs, I can't see how we could logically continue medical support for addicts at any public expense. If we make it so people can have a free choice, we'd sure as **** better show people the consequences of their actions (death and/or expensive rehab out of their pocket, not on medical insurance) and not sponge off my ****ing tax dollars or insurance premiums to fix their issues.
are you trolling or do you really believe that drug use would increase significantly enough if they were legalized to justify your thoughts?
 
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Samirol

Turbo Monkey
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Oh,uh huh !! Hmm. I believe recent events from the supreme court in DC has proved you wrong you donkey butt!

Now you go back take photos of your friends ghey porn sessions.:disgust1:
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The Supreme Court used an activist interpretation to justify limiting guns, while using a strict interpretation to disallow banning guns.

Now, reasonable debate usually doesn't include ad hominem attacks, since it is an argument of ideas, not the people saying those arguments.

Edit: MikeD, we don't really know what would happen, since Holland has far less marijuana usage than the U.S, but the culture is completely different.

Read my thread on the drug war, and how tough penalties haven't stopped consumption
 
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MMike

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The Supreme Court used an activist interpretation to justify limiting guns, while using a strict interpretation to disallow banning guns.

Now, reasonable debate usually doesn't include ad hominem attacks, since it is an argument of ideas, not the people saying those arguments.

Edit: MikeD, we don't really know what would happen, since Holland has far less marijuana usage than the U.S, but the culture is completely different.

Read my thread on the drug war, and how tough penalties haven't stopped consumption
You're giving him too much credit. His type are incapable of independent thought.
 

Silver

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Don't particularly like public money and insurance going to alcohol treatment, either--but just because the situation with alcohol is jacked up doesn't mean we should do the same with drugs...if anything, it should show us where things have gone wrong.
How much do we spend on rehab compared to how much we spend on the drug war?

Numbers...I bet you come out on the losing end. According to Wipipedia, we spend about $45.5B in 2005. How much did the United States government spend on overseeing alcohol distribution and treatment of addicts?

Not to mention the fourth amendment costs...
 

binary visions

The voice of reason
Jun 13, 2002
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are you trolling or do you really believe that drug use would increase significantly enough if they were legalized to justify your thoughts?
I think it's pretty fair to say that the point you are arguing is impossible to nail down.

Right now, drugs are illegal. How many people that stops from partaking is difficult to determine and how much drug use would increase if they could be obtained legally is impossible to determine.

I don't think it's an invalid point at all. I would tend to lean towards the low end when speculating about how much drug use would increase, but I don't know any more than you do. I think marijuana is a slightly different issue and shouldn't really be lumped into this.
 

OrthoPT

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Let's get down to brass tacks (whatever that means). Without my "arms" I have no place to put my "hands", and how am I supposed to eat my bacon? I'm jut sayin'.
 

MikeD

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Oct 26, 2001
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Let's get down to brass tacks (whatever that means). Without my "arms" I have no place to put my "hands", and how am I supposed to eat my bacon? I'm jut sayin'.
Randy, show mommy how the piggie eats!!
 

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Turbo Monkey
Mar 28, 2007
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I dunno mike. Your logic suggests that we shouldn't treat cardiovascular diseases at public expense. After all, they eat the cheeseburgers, or smoke the dope...they should pay... right?

Besides, cardiovascular diseases kill (let alone hospitalize) tons more people anyway.
 
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