Wars against 'religious extremist'

Samirol · Sep 11, 2008

President Palin is a scary image, hopefully there will be a Kissinger type person to keep her in line

AngryMetalsmith · Sep 11, 2008

This woman burns my ass more than a raw habanero dipped in battery acid.

What happened to the concepts of separation of church and state, and freedom of religion ?

Who the hell does this bitch think she is ?

Her saying that the war on Iraq is God's will is no different from Al-Quida saying that terrorists acts are the will of Allah. The last Iraqi death toll that I saw was over 560,000. You cannot convince me that they were all terrorists. Palin is advocating genocide in the name of God. What right does she have to say who lives or dies ? She is a prime example of the problems I have with the religious right. They feel justified in killing anyone who is not Christian, i.e., just like them. These backward ass judgmental fuvcktards will commit unspeakable acts, acts that their own faith says is a violation of their rules(10 commandments), and then hide behind the church.

Muther Fvcking Hypocrites!!!!

kidwoo · Sep 11, 2008

X3pilot said:
If that's the case, then couldn't one make the case for waging war against radical Baptist?

Welcome.

Brother.

Defenestrated · Sep 11, 2008

how is what she's saying NOT reminiscent of a crusade

kidwoo · Sep 11, 2008

Defenestrated said:
how is what she's saying NOT reminiscent of a crusade

She's a dominionist fvcktard. For all bush's little reformed boozer christian crap, this chick is WAY worse.

Thank god we've got a muslim running. I've been dying to elect the 'least christian' candidate for years.

Defenestrated · Sep 11, 2008

State of the Union: DISMAL

kidwoo · Sep 11, 2008

X3pilot said:
I served with great pride and deployed more than once to several situations on the orders of my commanders, not God. God did not call me to serve, my personal beliefs and desire to be in the military called me.

But you fought for murika. So at least you had the knowledge that you were in the service of the one true god. Surely that provided some solace.

What drives me so insane is that so much of our recent, ahem....situations...... are initiated with absolutely zero religious consideration truth be told (and at least that's some good). However......by throwing the idea out there that we are somehow on gawd's side, what we are doing is justified and righteous "Gawd told me to invade Iraq" kind of bs. This gets joe dipshlt in middle america all behind it.

When mccain has an aneurysm over some reporter asking him about health care in a few years and commander palin takes charge of two (now possibly 3) wars she doesn't understand, this kind of nonsense is going increase exponentially.

Defenestrated · Sep 11, 2008

Just think, 50 + years ago the middle east loved the U.S. to death because we were the only superpower who had not imposed itself on them.

Silver · Sep 11, 2008

AngryMetalsmith said:
These backward ass judgmental fuvcktards will commit unspeakable acts, acts that their own faith says is a violation of their rules(10 commandments), and then hide behind the church.

Muther Fvcking Hypocrites!!!!

Well, that's basically every religion.

Hell, the Catholic church sodomizes little children for fun and profit and gets away with it. Killing a bunch of mud people is small change...

Defenestrated · Sep 11, 2008

Carlin was right when he said we had a monopoly on killing brown people.

kidwoo · Sep 11, 2008

Back on topic (sort of)..........did you notice that she didn't even know what the bush doctrine is specifically?

Samirol · Sep 11, 2008

kidwoo said:
Back on topic (sort of)..........did you notice that she didn't even know what the bush doctrine is specifically?

BUT MOOSE! LIPSTICK! I'M VOTING FOR HER!

*is a white woman with children at home*

AngryMetalsmith · Sep 11, 2008

Palin answers questions like a beauty pageant contestant...
:think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WALIARHHLII&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WALIARHHLII&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

jimmydean · Sep 11, 2008

I would love for Palin to bust out with "The Iraq". That would be the awesome.

JohnE · Sep 12, 2008

X3pilot said:
I'm not sure Bush knows what the Bush doctrine is..

Cheney may not have ever told him.

So thats a no on the Powell doctrine too, right? Figured...

Silver · Sep 12, 2008

kidwoo said:
Back on topic (sort of)..........did you notice that she didn't even know what the bush doctrine is specifically?

In what regard?

She's clueless. I'd rather have the downer infant as the VP candidate. He probably wouldn't gin up a war with Russia.

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

Silver said:
In what regard?

for the lurkers

GIBSON: "Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?"

PALIN: "In what respect, Charlie?"

GIBSON: "The Bush ... Well, what do you interpret it to be?"

PALIN: "His world view."

GIBSON: "No. The Bush doctrine. Annunciated in September 2002, before the Iraq war."

Silver · Sep 12, 2008

Damn, she said respect and not regard?

That's what I get for posting drunk and not checking sources. In my defense, I didn't want to throw a brick through my monitor watching that again.

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

Regard, respect, whatever (current republicans don't know the difference either....or the definition). The giggly bowling balls were for her, not you.

Silver · Sep 12, 2008

kidwoo said:
Regard, respect, whatever (current republicans don't know the difference either....or the definition). The giggly bowling balls were for her, not you.

I know. I'm a stickler for detail though...I'm disappointed in myself.

edit: You didn't think your hurt my feelings did you? That's cute...

BurlyShirley · Sep 12, 2008

This is the 2nd best person the republican party can put forth?

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

Silver said:
I know. I'm a stickler for detail though...I'm disappointed in myself.

edit: You didn't think your hurt my feelings did you? That's cute...

Just letting you know my standards are low.

This is the 2nd best person the republican party can put forth?

Depends on your definition of best. As a leader, hell no. As someone who can pander to the recently energized vagina vote, as someone who holds a place as a white trash dip**** who is untouchable for criticism on anything that matters (don't be sexist, don't judge the daughter, why don't you want a woman president, back off she's a good christian hard working mom, how dare you attack her family) all the while detracting from actual issues.....hell yes. She's perfect.

I mean hell, grandpa and posse are making shlt up to appear victims to the heartless democrat's wrath.

That stupid pig couldn't negotiate her way out of a wet paper bag, but that's not why she's been chosen.

AngryMetalsmith · Sep 12, 2008

BurlyShirley said:
This is the 2nd best person the republican party can put forth?

It's sad really.

I'm obviously no fan of the Republican party, but it is scary that someone so inappropriate my end up with their finger on the button.

GOP = Geriatrics Opposed to Progress

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

angrymetalsmith said:
It Is Scary That Someone So Inappropriate My End Up With Their Finger On The Button.

Pitbull!!!! Whoooooohooooo!!!!

sanjuro · Sep 12, 2008

Palin sez said:
"If you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you."

This was in reference to a statement she said that she had never met a head of state.

I did a quick check:

Dick Cheney - Secretary of Defense
Al Gore - House Intelligence Committee & Armed Services Committee
Dan Quayle - Who cares
George H. Bush - UN Ambassador, Envoy to China

Without direct confirmation, it looks like the last 25 years, every qualified VP had plenty of exposure to foreign relations, and most likely met one head of state.

sanjuro · Sep 12, 2008

kidwoo said:
Just letting you know my standards are low.

Depends on your definition of best. As a leader, hell no. As someone who can pander to the recently energized vagina vote, as someone who holds a place as a white trash dip**** who is untouchable for criticism on anything that matters (don't be sexist, don't judge the daughter, why don't you want a woman president, back off she's a good christian hard working mom, how dare you attack her family) all the while detracting from actual issues.....hell yes. She's perfect.

I mean hell, grandpa and posse are making shlt up to appear victims to the heartless democrat's wrath.

That stupid pig couldn't negotiate her way out of a wet paper bag, but that's not why she's been chosen.

How dare you insult the fact that Palin is a woman!!!

$tinkle · Sep 12, 2008

thread seems to be thick on opinion, but vanishingly thin on content.

i'm at http://abcnews.go.com/wn watching the interview now, and will weigh in.

ed: more organized content link here: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5783816

$tinkle · Sep 12, 2008

X3pilot said:
If that's the case, then couldn't one make the case for waging war against radical Baptist? Or those sects of religions that refuse to submit to medical care for their children, when our country's values clearly support protecting children. What about those Amish that flaunt our commerce and energy systems?

if demonstrated to be a threat to nat'l security & approved by congress, yes.

Angrybusinessowner said:
Her saying that the war on Iraq is God's will

if she had said this, i would agree w/ the rest of your post.
she didn't say this, therefore i don't agree.

Defenstrated said:
how is what she's saying NOT reminiscent of a crusade

it's reminiscent only wrt there was an ongoing military conflict between muslims & chrisitians (actually catholics, which i'll allow for lumping in for now). it stops short once you see the crusades was in response to muslim aggression

X3pilot said:
I mean, I understand that most, if not all wars have been started or joined based on some input or at the behest of some religion

another oft-echoed meme. as students of military history we should realize that religion is rarely the cause of war, and is conveniently irrelevant when examining communist russia or hitler's conquest. should i put forth the ridiculous case that WWII or stalin's regime could have been thwarted if everyone were christian/muslim/sikh/buddhist?

Defenestrated said:
Carlin was right when he said we had a monopoly on killing brown people.

who do you think kills most brown people? the u.s. (or even the western world), or other brown people? seriously.

jimmydean said:
I would love for Palin to bust out with "The Iraq". That would be the awesome.

she did give a shout-out to bush w/ "nukular" about 4 min in

hudder:

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

$tinkle said:
thread seems to be thick on opinion, but vanishingly thin on content.

Just like palin.

Walked right into that one now dintcha?

$tinkle · Sep 12, 2008

this seems to be more the depth of this thread

jimmydean · Sep 12, 2008

$tinkle said:
this seems to be more the depth of this thread

Suck It!

Uncanoonuc · Sep 12, 2008

http://www.borowitzreport.com/

kidwoo · Sep 12, 2008

Hey $tinkems, here's some more content.

"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable,"

On russian/US relations experience

"they're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska ... from an island in Alaska."

Real whipper snapper we got here.

Jim Mac · Sep 12, 2008

"You'll be there to defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans," Palin told the departing soldiers (heading to Iraq).

or

9/11!!!!!!!!!!!

$tinkle · Sep 12, 2008

kidwoo said:
Hey $tinkems, here's some more content.

my understanding is that russia wasn't provoked, as georgia went into south ossetia - a widely recognized (by the UN, EU, & NATO) part of georgia - in response to attacks from within, likely russian supporting separatists.

i also believe this is the widely held position by our gov't, most notably, the state dept

AngryMetalsmith · Sep 12, 2008

AngryMetalsmith said:
Her saying that the war on Iraq is God's will...

$tinkle said:
if she had said this, i would agree w/ the rest of your post.
she didn't say this, therefore i don't agree.

WTF dude ? Do you have selective hearing or something ?

She said it, more than once. Charlie Gibson called her out on it. Watch the interview again and/or read the transcript.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/Story?id=5782924&page=1

The GOP will say one thing and then vehemently deny ever saying it.

Wars against 'religious extremist'

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