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The liars in the Republican Party

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I liked Khalidi's response as quoted in this Washington Post editorial

Which reminds us: We did ask Mr. Khalidi whether he wanted to respond to the campaign charges against him. He answered, via e-mail, that "I will stick to my policy of letting this idiot wind blow over." That's good advice for anyone still listening to the McCain campaign's increasingly reckless ad hominem attacks. Sadly, that wind is likely to keep blowing for four more days.
The whole affair is so sad, with the R's simplistic, overtly racist, anti-intellectual...no, scratch that, anti-thought fear-mongering. He knows ARABS! He's a TERRORIST! His name is MUSLIM! He's a SOCIALIST! He's going to meet with ACHMINIJAD and SELL OUT THE UNITED STATES!

Seriously, how sad? This is the best the "mavericks" can do? The McCain campaign is running around with it's hair on fire, but the real shame of it will lie with those that fall for this stuff and actually vote R based on this inane name calling. :plthumbsdown:
 

vibiker

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Falwell
Haggard
Roberstson
Baker

Do you seriously need to be informed of this?


All have condemned some non violent sect of america at some point, often calling for eradication.

And every republican president in the last 20 years has allied himself with one or more of them.

And what crazy thing(s) have they said? Please be specific. Thanks.
 

jimmydean

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jimmydean

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Sounds like you are not a Falwell fan. Granted you may disagree with what he said, but what in that list did he say that is hateful to the U.S.?
You really are retarded. That is a top 10 list. He has said a lot of crazy sh!t over the years. Try doing some research for yourself rather than being spoon fed by Sean Hanity.
 

kidwoo

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Sounds like you are not a Falwell fan. Granted you may disagree with what he said, but what in that list did he say that is hateful to the U.S.?
I'm only doing this because you genuinely don't seem to understand.

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers ... AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
Now maybe you've never known anyone with HIV/AIDS but it's not something any civilized human who claims to represent of a loving creator would ever wish on another human being. Especially with such a limited view of how it's transmitted.

"The ACLU is to Christians what the American Nazi party is to Jews."
So equating a group of strict constitutionalist lawyers to the largest genocidal murderers in the planet's history isn't hateful to you?


Wishing death on people because of the POTENTIAL that they may be engaging in something you personally don't like is hateful. And calling people who defend civil rights nazis..........you can't really be this obtuse.
 

jimmydean

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Look beyond your kool-aide. I will ask the question again...


BTW, assuming that you have done any research, at least one of those quotes appears to be an urban legend.
OK, so I listed 4 people and a few quick quotes and ONE might not be accurate.

What about the others? Are you saying NONE of the 4 people I listed have ever said anything hateful? Did you watch that youtube video?

Seriously, of the 4 people I posted, you could come up with at least 100 stupid things between them that is every bit as bad (if not a lot worse) than anything Wright has ever said.

I'm not saying Wright is a good person, or even defending him (as I think religion is a crutch), but he is no worse than any of these GOP "spiritual leaders".
 

vibiker

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...but it's not something any civilized human who claims to represent of a loving creator would ever wish on another human being.
I take it that you are just a New Testament guy. In your spare time, check out the Old Testament .


So equating a group of strict constitutionalist lawyers to the largest genocidal murderers in the planet's history isn't hateful to you?
That may have been a bit over the line, but strict constitutionalist, please. This very left leaning group, started by a pro-socialist is very anti-Christian and anti-family. Again, over the line, but not hateful to the U.S.
 
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ohio

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Again, over the line, but not hateful to the U.S.
Also, you're bolding the wrong part. You mean hateful to the US. I see what you're getting at, and what makes you uncomfortable about Wright is that he criticized the United States itself as a nation, whereas these other guys have only wished death and vengeance on specific people or groups who are American but aren't part of their America.

It's a bit of sleight of hand on their part that allows you to remain comfortable think these lunatics are protecting your America from these other Americans who are different than you. And it means that no amount of quotation citing will convince you otherwise, because you will always be able to rationalize that they are not criticizing the nation, but are instead attacking liberals/jews/muslims/non-english-speakers/AIDS-sufferers and many others who are in fact just as american as you (or more) despite your wishes.
 

kidwoo

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I take it that you are just a New Testament guy. In your spare time, check out the Old Testament ..
I spent the first 18 years of my life in parochial schools with a theology requirement every year. I probably know that book better than you ever will.


What your radio friends have told you about the ACLU is irrelevant. How would an exclusively leftist group get themselves involved in defending rush limbaugh? I'm going to take a guess here and assume you have no idea what I'm talking about again.


I (and others) tried to point something out to you that was a blatant point to anyone with any modicum of intellect could see. You like to bring up wright as someone unique to the democratic candidate when in fact his spewing is nothing out of the ordinary with respect to MANY religious freaks who have traditionally been huge supporters of republican candidates. If you can't see that at this point, then you really are about as bright as a brick wall.
 

jimmydean

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Definition: Beliefs that push for the weakening and/or destruction of the family.
Examples:
Minor children seeking abortions w/o parental notification?
Attacks on the Boy Scouts?
What about the molestation of minor children by members of the church?

Or is that character building?

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Here is a concept:
What if the minor child is seeking the abortion due to rape by the parent? Should the parent then be notified and have a say in the life of the inbred bastard child?
 

vibiker

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I spent the first 18 years of my life in parochial schools with a theology requirement every year. I probably know that book better than you ever will.
I'm impressed. Especially since it sounds like you could read from birth. However, your overwhelming knowledge of the OT is not showing through in your postings.


How would an exclusively leftist group get themselves involved in defending rush limbaugh?
The ACLU (and you) are on the left, but I never said that you are always wrong.

You like to bring up wright as someone unique to the democratic candidate when in fact his spewing is nothing out of the ordinary with respect to MANY religious freaks who have traditionally been huge supporters of republican candidates.
Again, the hatefulness of Wright does not compare at all to any of the Falwell types. But for a moment let's assume that is.... I take it that if McCain sat in pews of one of their churchs for 20 years, I am sure that you would not be bothered by that, correct?
 

Silver

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I'm impressed. Especially since it sounds like you could read from birth. However, your overwhelming knowledge of the OT is not showing through in your postings.
Short version from someone who knows the Bible better than you do:

God was an asshole, but he sobers up and finds Jesus. John eats mushrooms and writes down his trip. The End.
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
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Definition: Beliefs that push for the weakening and/or destruction of the family.
Examples:
Minor children seeking abortions w/o parental notification?
Attacks on the Boy Scouts?
You defined "anti-". Thanks for that.

Now define "family."
 

TheMontashu

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Mar 15, 2004
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I take it that you are just a New Testament guy. In your spare time, check out the Old Testament .
The Torah teaches to leave the judging to god and to treat every one with respect and dignity, being that they might be the messiah. The Torah also says to leave the judging to god, only god can do that. Any one that preaches any sort of hate is not a good Christian or a good Jew. The bible also says that no sin is above another and that god is all forgiving.

Now if you would please go through and read your Torah again, sure there are instances of god being vengeful. You forget people are not here to carry out the will of god, people don't know the will off god beyond what it says for us to do in the Bible.
 

kidwoo

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But for a moment let's assume that is.... I take it that if McCain sat in pews of one of their churchs for 20 years, I am sure that you would not be bothered by that, correct?


No the difference in this case is that mccain is USING these nutjobs to get votes.


That's much worse.


Again, the hatefulness of Wright does not compare at all to any of the Falwell types.

Falwell once said the reason the world trade center was attacked was because america had been taken over by sinners and got what it deserved. Wright said he was unhappy with america and said the famous 'god damn america'


It's really not my fault you're too dense to understand the parallels.
 

3D.

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this thread has become funny, vibiker seems to just want the abuse, it’s kinda like, (what was that guy’s name?) Mr. Clean… neglect and inept?

carry on...
 

jimmydean

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Falwell once said the reason the world trade center was attacked was because america had been taken over by sinners and got what it deserved. Wright said he was unhappy with america and said the famous 'god damn america'


It's really not my fault you're too dense to understand the parallels.
But Falwell is a white guy, so he can say that sort of stuff. :twitch:
 

RenegadeRick

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I take it that you are just a New Testament guy. In your spare time, check out the Old Testament.
If you were a Christian, you would know that since Jesus came to earth in a NEW COVENANT that the Old Testament is not relevant any longer.

Perhaps these words are familiar to you?

... the Lord Jesus, on the night he was handed over, took bread, and, after he had given thanks, broke it and said, "This is my body that is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me."
 

Echo

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vibiker: which Wright quote(s) specifically are you referencing that are more hateful to the US than Falwell, Swaggert, Robertson, etc? It's cute how you sit there demanding quotes from everyone, while providing nothing at all except allegations of unspecific instances.